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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:56:20 PM EST
It has passed the senate. here is the link.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN02845:@@@L&summ2=m&

Well what now?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:59:11 PM EST
thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN02845:@@@L&summ2=m&

I expect the house will kill it. The Senate usually supports the Feds, the House is more of a State controlled entity, and this is something lots of states wont want.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:02:52 PM EST
This is why I advocate grid lock.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:05:23 PM EST
A social security number isn't a national identy?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:06:32 PM EST
I sincerely hope the House passes this...

We NEED a better national ID than 'Social Security Cards' and 'Green Cards'...

Think about it...

Or maybe I should buy stock in Reynolds Wrap, it appears there are some pretty heavy users here... Go put a few more layers on, guys...
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Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:15:32 PM EST
Between this and the stupid TSA employee that refused to except my passport as valid ID I am beginning to wonder WhoTF is running the show.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:17:27 PM EST
What good will a national id card do anyway if they will just give them to illegals in the end anyway?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:19:17 PM EST
i got a national id card. it's called a military id. you want bad enough.. go earn it. lol
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:24:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By B-O-A-T-S:
i got a national id card. it's called a military id. you want bad enough.. go earn it. lol




First off, thanks for your service.


But with that attitude, go F yourself. Some of us CAN'T serve, even though we want to.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:58:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By scrum:
What good will a national id card do anyway if they will just give them to illegals in the end anyway?



That's the first thing I thought.

And why not?? We want to give them driver's licenses, free medical care, etc. etc.

Mine the borders!

Scott
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:06:39 PM EST
I've been advocating that for years


Originally Posted By Bullitt3401:
Mine the borders!

Scott

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:17:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By M38:
A social security number isn't a national identy?



Take my word for it, I'm a citizen

Soy un ciudadano, es verdad!!


Some day we'll at least come to grips with the fact that we will need a national ID to control our borders. Other strategies are welcome.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:03:48 PM EST
I won't get one, I'll compete with illegal alines for jobs before I do.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:18:41 PM EST
Only if I can get this as my photo:

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:46:45 PM EST
We already have a defacto National ID via the SSN#

Hope the House passes it, and it gets signed into law. Then there'd be some pressure on the (D) states to stop granting driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:52:03 PM EST
already have a couple

CDL
MIL ID
SS card

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:12:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By scrum:
What good will a national id card do anyway if they will just give them to illegals in the end anyway?


Give them???
Wrong. Some enterprising American Citizen will be more than willing to sell them one in name of the holy $.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:14:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By M38:
A social security number isn't a national identy?



Nope. And unfortunately a lot of gun buyers reinforce this fact everytime they refuse to enter theirs (SSN) on their federal background check. Welcome to Catch 22.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:15:17 PM EST
They should use MUSHROOM STAMP prints for Identifying us all! I'll start with one right on KERRY'S FACE!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:16:25 PM EST
So where in all that crap dose it say their shall be a national I.D. ?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:32:39 PM EST

I am a citizen of the State of Michigan. Why do I need anything more than a State ID? Will we need "National" ID's to move around the country? Nazi's..."Zie papiers pleeze". A national id is nothing more than more control over your life. Period.

National ID....Kiss my ass!

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:13:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By lippo:
I am a citizen of the State of Michigan. Why do I need anything more than a State ID? Will we need "National" ID's to move around the country? Nazi's..."Zie papiers pleeze". A national id is nothing more than more control over your life. Period.

National ID....Kiss my ass!




+1
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:33:47 PM EST
Places like Miami, NYC, cities in Kalifornia, SSN's and Temporary and Permanent Residency ID's are sold by street minstrels, it wont be long before the losers figure out a way to conterfeit the holograms barcode whatever, we are being invaded by hordes of economically challenged foreigners (here in Florida mostly from the Caribbean, central and south Americas)who will do anything to get and stay here and violating the law is the least of their worries....SHTF is coming....
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:36:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By M38:
A social security number isn't a national identy?



Stop being rational and trying to introduce reality.




I'd really like to know how many folks don't have a SSN and a driver's license that speak out against this. I really don't give a shit
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:40:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By scrum:
What good will a national id card do anyway if they will just give them to illegals in the end anyway?



Eeeezactly!
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