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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:30:44 AM EDT
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agntsa
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:37:36 AM EDT
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Hey! For some idiots here to them "A rifle is a rifle" Get it?
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:38:13 AM EDT
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Sounds like someone is trying to justify the $1400 price tag on their 11 year old Oly frankengun.
I don't look at the left side of the mag well when I'm pulling the trigger. To some folks a prancing pony means the world, to me it is nothing more then another AR, and it's value is only dependent on it's condition. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:41:41 AM EDT
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Some states still have bans in which the pre/postban rules apply and they can have all the evil features if the gun is a pre1994ban gun. There will still be a demand for pre1994ban items, but that demand has reduced greatly, and with a relatively constant supply, you price will drop - there is no way around that. If you expect to get $1600 or more for one, you may get it, but you will likely have to wait MUCH LONGER for the right customer to come and buy it.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:43:54 AM EDT
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Comparing firearms to cars is apples to oranges that is not a fair comparison, how ever i do hear what you are saying, right now the market has to settle on a price. In a free state you pre-ban gun barring any colletablity (the fact that it is a former preban means nothing in a now free state) is just a 10 year old or older gun and will be worth less than a new one, however your preban gun will retain some value in a non free state i.e NY that value depends on a few factors, but if i lived in a free state and i don't i'm a NY'r, I would trade my preban for a new bushmaster + $100-$200 i think that is reasonable. but it is not up to me.
It depends on how many free state guys want to trade their old guns for new ones + SOME CASH, its win win win I don't get how people are complaining about loosing any thing. Trade me your preban for a brand new one gun, AND i'll give you $100-$200- all you did was get a brand new gun and some cash for the, WTF? your retarded if you don't do it. If you have a colt i'll buy you a colt if you have a bushy i'll buy you a bushy. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:46:26 AM EDT
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Oookay...Would you sell me your Pre 94 Colt 6520 Green Label for $800.00? I'll pay you $50.00 more...Hmmm? A rifle is just a rifle right? |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:47:28 AM EDT
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New Colts sell for about $900 therefore a used one is worth less than that. Perhaps if there is some specific collector value to a particular model it might fetch more, but why would the mundane shooter pay more than new?????
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:49:17 AM EDT
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I don't think that Colt is a better product. I sold my Colt prebans and bought new Bushmasters. The Bushmaster is the superior product.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:50:27 AM EDT
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shotar,
Where can you buy a Colt AR-15 with all the previously banned features for $900. Chuck |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:52:13 AM EDT
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I have another car analogy, since so many people like them. I like Mustangs as much as the next guy, but humor me for a second. I would certainly not sell a like new 67 Mustang GT for less than fifteen thousand. How much would you ask for a 1971 Pinto with less than a hundred miles on it? They sold for at least a couple of grand new, assume it has air conditioner, auto, and power disc brakes, how much would it be worth? Many would like us to think that there Pintos are as valuable as the Mustangs, back to the Mustang, what if it really isn't in like new condition, but actually rusted out from one end to the other, with a Chevy motor in it? Is it still a valuable collectable? would it command a premium just because it is a Mustang?
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:53:20 AM EDT
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And I sold both my Colt and Bushie's for a RRA. Just as good and almost 1/2 the price. 
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:57:25 AM EDT
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ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=221967 |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 10:59:06 AM EDT
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The Penguin beat me to it.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:01:10 AM EDT
[#14]
what I paid!!
Chuck |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:06:01 AM EDT
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WOW!!! Open up the:
 LMAO!!! 
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:08:13 AM EDT
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BTW i have a bushy lower brandy new looking to trade it for a preban (with raised fencing) +A few dollors.
IM ME |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:25:51 AM EDT
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To me, yes, a rifle IS just a rifle. I find the Colt product to be overpriced when compared to other manufacturers. To me, that green label Colt is worth NO MORE then what I can buy a Sunset Bushmaster/Armalite/RRA rifle with the same features for, and worth LESS unless it is NIB. The prancing pony on the side does nothing for me, for others it means the world. To each his own, but to me the Colt is NOT worth the extra $$$. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:27:45 AM EDT
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A Colt will always be worth more than an Oly/DPMS/PWA ect.
A Colt Sporter will always be worth more than a Colt Match target. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:33:25 AM EDT
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They maybe worth a bit more due to collector value, but if you're a shooter, they are all the same. The problem is that some of the Colts do not push-pin take-down like that in the M16s and the rest of the industry. Also some of the Colts(in an effort to apease the anti-gunners) have different diameter tirgger and sear pins. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:36:08 AM EDT
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I agree but make another point...It's value is also what someone is willing to pay for it! BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:38:54 AM EDT
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OK them how much is a Colt SP1 Sporter with a sear block. I know a guy who has a full size one and doesnt know its value....it's sitting in a pawn shop.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:40:23 AM EDT
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I bought a Govy Carbine AR15A2 LE with all evil features yesterday for $850 plus sales tax. Just have to look. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:42:48 AM EDT
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If so, I will buy it now!!!
Chuck |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:49:59 AM EDT
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Technically those would be closer to $1000.00 before you throw any transfer fee, S&H etc. on them. But who's counting an extra hundred or so? BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 11:51:56 AM EDT
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Well, his point seems to be that he wouldn't pay any extra for one in the first place, so moot point. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 12:00:10 PM EDT
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I believe he, like anyone else, would sell it for as much as they could get for it!
If I lived in an un-free State I would expect to pay more for a pre-'94 ban gun. BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 12:26:46 PM EDT
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The value of a "preban" is the value of any other used gun: Exactly what someone else is willing to pay for it. Supply was artificially restricted, price went up. Supply now goes up, price comes down.
sheesh- It's economics 101- not even worth arguing about. btw- I think that the prices on the "pre import ban" stuff WILL come down. I just don't think enough people care about the collectability of those guns. Most are too common, and if there is an American made replacement that is just as good, why would the prices stay elevated? Class 3 FA is another story- prices will increase, unless the manufacturing ban is lifted, or unless they get completely banned. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 12:35:29 PM EDT
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Hold on there Professor...If the above was true then the price of the LE6920 Colt M4's would not be $1250.00 now when 1 week ago they were selling for $889.95!  BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 12:52:17 PM EDT
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I'll say this as someone who owns 5 preban Colts going back to an original Sp-1 from 1979: DPeacher is RIGHT! I bought Colts when they were pretty much the only game in town. Just before the ban, I bought 2 more, sight unseen from a dealer friend. Imagine my surprise when I discovered exactly what a friggin' "Blue Label" was. Now lately, under yet another new owner, Colt has decided to make milspec trigger and takedown pins, no sear blocks, etc. Sorry, too little, too late. There are more variations than ever and my RRA is every bit as good to me as a Ponygun. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 1:11:24 PM EDT
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GunSlingAR is in the X-ring. Helldog40, Leatherneck Extraordinarie, has seen the righteous light and is spreading the gospel! |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 1:51:46 PM EDT
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 I thank you, but remain, as ever, modest and Humble and Loveable (tm) 
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Posted: 9/14/2004 1:53:09 PM EDT
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I think he just wants to justify the price for that sp1 he has for sale over in the ee.
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Posted: 9/14/2004 3:06:30 PM EDT
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Thank you, |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 3:59:50 PM EDT
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Colt SP1s do not have sear blocks. |
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Posted: 9/14/2004 4:00:32 PM EDT
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AR15 Roll Mark.... |
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