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Posted: 9/27/2005 3:16:19 AM EDT
www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/26/D8CS3L483.html

Faulty Body Armor May Have Endangered Bush
Sep 26 2:14 PM US/Eastern


By JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

The Justice Department is investigating whether a company sold defective bulletproof vests for President Bush, federal agents and local police and then waited nearly two years to alert customers that the body armor could be unsafe.

A former research chief for Second Chance Body Armor Inc. is cooperating with the criminal investigation and testified this month that the Secret Service tested and bought some of the defective vests for the president and first lady Laura Bush. The Pentagon obtained the same armor for elite troops who guard generals, according to transcripts obtained by The Associated Press.

Many sales occurred well after Michigan-based Second Chance had been alerted that the Japanese-made Zylon synthetic material in the vests was degrading faster than expected from heat, light and moisture exposure, allowing bullets to potentially penetrate the armor, according to the former employee's testimony and other company documents.

Prosecutors have gathered documents showing that Second Chance was alerted as early as 1998 by the Japanese material maker, Toyobo Co., that there were problems with Zylon maintaining its protective properties under certain conditions.

By 2001, Second Chance's research chief, Aaron Westrick, was pleading unsuccessfully with his company's president to replace the vests after his own tests showed them degrading rapidly, the memos show.

"Lives and our credibility are at stake," Westrick wrote then-Second Chance president Richard Davis in a Dec. 18, 2001, memo. "We will only prevail if we do the right things and not hesitate. This issue should not be hidden for obvious safety issues and because of future litigation."

Westrick urged Davis to "immediately notify our customers of the degradation problems," let those with pending orders cancel them and cease all executive bonuses to save money so the company could pay for a replacement initiative, the memo shows.

But Second Chance customers were not alerted to the problems until September 2003 _ after a California police officer was shot to death wearing the vest and a Pennsylvania officer was seriously wounded.

In the interim, the Secret Service paid $53,000 in 2002 to Second Chance for body armor, enough to equip the president and the security detail that protects him and other VIPs, federal procurement records show.

Legal professionals and government officials familiar with the inquiry confirmed Westrick's account about the Secret Service and Bush. They said the criminal investigation is in addition to a Justice Department lawsuit filed last summer that accuses Second Chance and Toyobo of fraud. The officials spoke only on condition of anonymity, citing grand jury secrecy.

Robert H. Skilton, Second Chance's lawyer, did not return calls to his office last week. Some of the company's non-Zylon assets have been sold and others are in bankruptcy.

Westrick's lawyer, Stephen M. Kohn, said Sunday his that client was cooperating with the criminal investigation.

"Greed prevailed over the safety of police, soldiers and even the president of the United States," Kohn said. "The officials who personally profited from selling the defective vests to law enforcement must be held accountable to the fullest extent of the criminal code."

Throughout 2001 and 2002, agencies from the Pentagon to local police bought vests from Second Chance, records show. The company now says more than 100,000 Zylon vests it sold are in question, and the government said it bought at least 40,000.

In summer 2002, company executives prepared a memo for their board of directors recommending two stark options.

"Solution 1: We continue to operate as though nothing is wrong until one of our customers is killed or wounded or Germany, Japan, DuPont or some other entity exposes the Zylon problem," the memo said.

Under possible "downfalls" for that option, the memo warned that an officer wearing one of the vests might be killed. "In the eyes of law enforcement, we will either be stupid for not knowing or greedy and uncaring for knowing and not doing anything about it," the memo said.

The second option recommended the company publish an ad "denouncing" the vests and "decline to make them" unless customers know of the problem and still want them.

While it waited until fall 2003 to alert buyers, Second Chance arranged in the interim for Toyobo to begin paying it refunds in 2002 for the Zylon problems, promising to use the money to fix vests already sold in the United States, according to documents in Second Chance's bankruptcy case.

Toyobo told the bankruptcy court that Second Chance took the money but "failed to implement the corrective actions."

"It is apparent that Toyobo was duped by Second Chance," Kent Jarrell, a U.S. spokesman for Toyobo, said Sunday. "We were shocked by the level of Second Chance's deception when their behavior was finally uncovered because of documents that surfaced in litigation and through investigation."

The Justice Department's lawsuit this summer accused both Second Chance and Toyobo of allowing vests to be sold to local, state and federal police even though the companies knew the ability to stop bullets was overstated.

But that lawsuit, along with others filed by states, made no mention of a connection to the Secret Service and Bush. Westrick discussed that connection in a deposition earlier this month provided to investigators.

"The president had Zylon Ultima armor and his wife had it, if I recollect, and they took a look at it ... I believe it was the Secret Service put the armor through some special tests and went with it, bought it," Westrick testified in a Sept. 9 transcript obtained by The Associated Press.

Westrick said that while the vest had passed initial Secret Service testing, he warned his company that Zylon would soon degrade and allow bullets to pierce the armor. "I said it would be a problem," he testified.

Secret Service officials declined to say whether Bush ever wore the vest, saying they don't discuss presidential protective measures.

Westrick was told Bush wore Zylon protection during the 2001 inauguration and during a 2002 event with police that Westrick's boss attended, according to legal professionals familiar with the case.

Westrick's testimony this month also identified other potential victims whom federal prosecutors may explore _ elite special forces who work for the Central Command in protecting generals overseas.

The research director-turned-whistle-blower testified he provided to Central Command several Zylon Ultima vests but warned he feared they were defective.

"Second Chance supplied them, but I also told them I thought the armor was problematic," Westrick said. "I thought it would degrade. My research showed that it degraded."

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Second Chance has boiled their bunny with a lot of police officers over this whole Zylon thing.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:17:57 AM EDT
Heard on the radio this morning. Looks bad for them, but if they knowingly sold defective vests, they deserve it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:18:36 AM EDT
Posted earlier, but you have more info.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=393820
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:22:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2005 3:23:04 AM EDT by Sukebe]
The problem with their vests and zylon was exposed a couple of years ago. The DOJ is just now investigating? Better late than never.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:23:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Posted earlier, but you have more info.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=393820



Second Chance is sort of like the Glock of body armor: Lots of, if not most, departments use their stuff. The Zylon contraversy has been going on for an excruciatingly long time, and it has completely ruined the reputation of SC in the opinion of a lot of cops out there.

It isn't the defective product but the fact that SC's leadership seems to want to deny that the products are defective and they seem to want to do nothing about it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:39:39 AM EDT
Zylon problems were revealed years ago.
If the SS was stupid enough to keep using them after that point, its not SC's fault.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:03:34 AM EDT
Daaaaaaamn.


Didn't Second Chance used to be considered the industry standard?
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:34:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:37:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Zylon problems were revealed years ago.
If the SS was stupid enough to keep using them after that point, its not SC's fault.

Kharn



Timeline:

SS buys Zylon vest in 2001-2002.

Zylon reported as defective internally at Second Chance Dec. 2001. This info doesn't get passed to SC's customers until fall 2003.

Looks like SC concealed the truth from its customers for 18+ months while selling defective product. Bad choice on Second Chance's part.

Kent
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:40:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Green_Canoe:
Looks like SC concealed the truth from its customers for 18+ months while selling defective product. Bad choice on Second Chance's part.

Kent

I'm talking after it went public, concealing it from everyone for 18+ months was a very scummy move on their part.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:48:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2005 4:52:18 AM EDT by Colt_SBR]
My department got a recall notice for my body armor about 1 1/2 years ago. I turned in my vest the same day we got the recall notice.

My defective vest has been sitting in my Captain's office for 1 1/2 years, waiting to be replaced.

It's common knowledge, about half of all of the vests sold to police are defective.

Still waiting for my replacement.

Heat and humility destroy the vest material quickly. Working in Florida, vest life isn’t very long. Departments usually try to get five years out of a vest. I think most vests in Florida are well past their life by then.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 4:57:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2005 5:09:06 AM EDT by DigDug]
There are vest manufacturers STILL SELLING ZYLON VEST ON THE MARKET TO THIS DAY. Do some research.

Streicher's summer 2005 catalog. Page 76. American Body Armor Xtreme X/ZX vests.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:11:40 AM EDT
... You would be amazed how little science and engineering influences businesses as these.

... They are primarily overseen by accountants.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:18:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Green_Canoe:

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Zylon problems were revealed years ago.
If the SS was stupid enough to keep using them after that point, its not SC's fault.

Kharn



Timeline:

SS buys Zylon vest in 2001-2002.

Zylon reported as defective internally at Second Chance Dec. 2001. This info doesn't get passed to SC's customers until fall 2003.

Looks like SC concealed the truth from its customers for 18+ months while selling defective product. Bad choice on Second Chance's part.

Kent





Prosecutors have gathered documents showing that Second Chance was alerted as early as 1998 by the Japanese material maker, Toyobo Co., that there were problems with Zylon maintaining its protective properties under certain conditions.





Looks like they knew a lot sooner than 18 months before they told anyone.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:18:46 AM EDT
Time to sell their stock, if you own any. (if they are publicly traded)
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:22:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Time to sell their stock, if you own any. (if they are publicly traded)



Second chance when into bankruptcy years ago.

So how do other companies get away with still selling Zylon vests and 2nd chance gets gutted? How exactly does that work??????
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:27:58 AM EDT
This whole thing sucks...

At first when I started looking in to this I was incredulous that a company that (in my eyes) had that kind of standing would do such a thing.

But they did do it, and they should be punished for it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 5:39:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/27/2005 5:43:50 AM EDT by pillbox]
As soon as it came out I was contacted directly by second chance(filling out the registration card was good for once) and they sent me a intrim kevlar uparmor kit that the zylon panels slipped into, and a few months later sent me a brand new kevlar vest, all without me raising a stink or asking for one. They went the extra mile to fix it for me...and we tested the zylon "Ultima"vest after the replacemnt got here, and it stopped everything it was rated to stop and it was 4 years old,
I hate that second chance has fallen on hard times...they will be missed

Not that they dont deserve punishment if they indeed hid things for so long, I just wish that it had never occured in the first place.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 8:08:58 AM EDT
I just got a deal in the mail stating that there was a class action lawsuit, and to submit a form to get my piece of it.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:03:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sukebe:
The problem with their vests and zylon was exposed a couple of years ago. The DOJ is just now investigating? Better late than never.

That's the 'gubment operating at peak efficiency.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:09:08 AM EDT
Waaa Waaaa WAAAAAA


Just another day in government. Fuck up, blame someone else. Accept no responsibility, instead investigate and prosecute someone else!
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:38:47 AM EDT
Old news
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:41:03 AM EDT
Second Chance is bankrupt from all the lawsuits regarding "ZYLON" there assets have already been purchased by another company.

Guess there ain't NO SECOND CHANCE after all!!!
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 8:50:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
Heat and humility destroy the vest material quickly.




Try being more cocky
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 9:09:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Time to sell their stock, if you own any. (if they are publicly traded)



Second chance when into bankruptcy years ago.

So how do other companies get away with still selling Zylon vests and 2nd chance gets gutted? How exactly does that work??????



The NIJ just decertified ALL vests containing ANY Zylon
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 9:36:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2005 9:37:30 AM EDT by SPTiger]

Originally Posted By SNorman:

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
Heat and humility destroy the vest material quickly.




Try being more cocky



You beat me to it!

I was going to say "So that's why cops have such an attitude!" J/K
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