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Posted: 9/25/2005 12:36:07 PM EDT
Well I just got back from function firing/test/pressure testing of the Safari rifle project. WOW is all I have to say. It was just the barreled action right now, no stock. I wanted to do a check before I started all the stock work.
Starting off with HOT loads that are very close to factory Wby ammo, which are the hottest loads out there. 121 grs of IMR-4831 for those taking notes..
Tied her down in a ransom rest 4 sand bags covering her and touched off with a string. The recoil is insane! It moved in the rest 4 inches to the rear! And jumped into the air at least 6 inches! This is with a very efficient brake attached.
The berm strikes at 25 yards were impressive too! A 500 gr bullet at close to 2550 Fps with muzzle energy of over 8000 lbs, I believe will stop anything on 4 legs after seeing that berm explode in a cloud of dust.

Yup this rifle is going to hurt!
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:37:56 PM EDT
Aren't you the guy who was considering building without the brake?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:39:05 PM EDT
I've shot a few rounds through a .460

Not too bad with a good brake.

Good luck with the build and post some pics of the completed project.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:39:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bubba99:
Aren't you the guy who was considering building without the brake?



LOL yup!
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:53:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By bubba99:
Aren't you the guy who was considering building without the brake?



LOL yup!



take a video if you do
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:54:21 PM EDT
Were you under a roof ? I found the concussion incredable from the 378, 416 and 460.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 12:57:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rabon:
Were you under a roof ? I found the concussion incredable from the 378, 416 and 460.



No thank god.. I would of caught hell from the hunter crowd.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 1:18:21 PM EDT
One of the hardest kicking SOB's I ever shot ............H&R 12 Ga 3" ......Winchester 1 1/4oz slugs at something like 1800fps.....no recoil pad. Remember this single shot only weighs like 4 1/2 lbs. recoil was around 60 ft/lbs.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 1:20:23 PM EDT
I shot 2 rounds out of 460 Wby w-i-t-h a muzzle brake. Wasn't too bad. I don't even want to imagine what it would be like if there was no muzzle brake, it would definitely be no fun.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:49:03 PM EDT
I knew I should of made a road trip and watched it. I'll be there when you put the thing to your shoulder!

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:53:17 PM EDT
The 460 Weatherby Mag is one heck of a jackrabbit cartridge.

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:58:35 PM EDT
Why .460? The Peacekeeper is a wildcat using that case and a .50 caliber bullet. 750 @ 2300, IIRC.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:00:30 PM EDT
I fired one without a brake once and that was enough.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:07:43 PM EDT
NEW respect?

Yeesh...

Kinda like saying "Wow, I have a new respect for a .50BMG's ability to break through cover!"




Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:40:19 PM EDT
The skinners on safari crews love for clients to show up with a .460 wby. Results in a lot of wounded game that is not recovered that they don't have to skin. The operator likes it too. The client pays for two or three buffalo instead of one. Bwana pays for the one shot in the guts that got away and the one shot in the rear ham that got away and finally the one that he shoots in the shoulder with the PH's .375 that was found.

The reason for all this is that most tourist hunters never fire more than a few shots with such boomers before going on safari and are totally unprepared for shooting from field expedient positions.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:23:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:
The skinners on safari crews love for clients to show up with a .460 wby. Results in a lot of wounded game that is not recovered that they don't have to skin. The operator likes it too. The client pays for two or three buffalo instead of one. Bwana pays for the one shot in the guts that got away and the one shot in the rear ham that got away and finally the one that he shoots in the shoulder with the PH's .375 that was found.

The reason for all this is that most tourist hunters never fire more than a few shots with such boomers before going on safari and are totally unprepared for shooting from field expedient positions.



If / when I make my trip the three rifles that are going to be taken with me are. 35 Whelen, .375 H&H and the 460 which will not be used. Well maybe for ground squirrels..
The recoil is just to damn brutal to be used effectivly..
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:27:11 PM EDT
... Don't understand the fascination / obsession with unwarranted and excessive recoil

... Detached retinas are nothing you want to fuck with
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:27:43 PM EDT
I have one, that I got from my grandfather, that has no brake. It will make a believer out of you, thats for sure. earth-shaking.

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:44:56 PM EDT
If Mack Bolan used it, it's good enough for me.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:46:33 PM EDT
I was unlucky enough to shoot a .460 Weatherby Magnum without a brake in 1985, I still remember it to this day

I had some bruising that was purple, green and yellow for about a week
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 9:57:58 PM EDT
Biggest rifle I've fired was a Remington 700 Sendero in .338 RUM. Shooting it prone without a brake was quite fun. I can just imagine what that 460 is like.

Someday I want to pick up a rifle in .458 Lott
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 11:33:34 PM EDT
My local indoor range actually allows .460 Weatherbys!!

Fortunately, I’ve never been around when someone set one off.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 11:45:42 PM EDT
It has to be cheaper to load your own, since I saw a box of 20 at Scheels today for $100.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 11:49:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 199:
My local indoor range actually allows .460 Weatherbys!!

Fortunately, I’ve never been around when someone set one off.



Wade of Wades Eastside Gunshop in Bellevue WA shoots his M2 HB in his indoor range.

No, its not a semi.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 11:53:12 PM EDT
Never shot a .460, did shoot a .458 Win Mag, no brake. 4 or 5 shots left me sore. Good for Brown/Kodiak or Polar bear and Cape Buffalo, I suppose. Not a lot of fun for much else.

Recoil with big rifles is best ridden and not tamed. Hold on loosely and don't let go.

Did I mention recoil pad?

Rick
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:52:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
It has to be cheaper to load your own, since I saw a box of 20 at Scheels today for $100.



Thats a bargin! Normal price is closer to the $125 range!

20 rnds took almost a half a pound of powder!
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 6:43:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

If / when I make my trip the three rifles that are going to be taken with me are. 35 Whelen, .375 H&H and the 460 which will not be used. Well maybe for ground squirrels..
The recoil is just to damn brutal to be used effectivly..



Good man. The 35 Whelen and the .375 H&H are a couple of the most useful rifles to take to Africa. By the way try loading your 300 grain .375s to around 2400fps. They will make two holes in EVERYTHING you shoot. Higher velocities than that are really not necessary and tend to wreck the bullet giving ocasional eratic terminal bullet performance.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 11:37:58 AM EDT
I witnessed a 275gr .375 SP go through a 500 pound yearling moose at 500 yards broadside. Shot was just over the shoulders. Resulted in an incapacitation and later my brother finished it with another .375 from 30'---to the head. Hydraulic pressure/hydrostatic shot is a sight to see!
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 11:45:29 AM EDT
It's detached retina time!

Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:20:18 PM EDT
ok, what does a simple gun that shoots one of these things cost?


txl
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