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Posted: 9/12/2004 12:57:08 PM EST

Surge of Baghdad Violence Leaves 60 Dead
By ROBERT H. REID

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents hammered central Baghdad on Sunday with one of their most intense mortar and rocket barrages ever in the heart of the capital, heralding a day of violence that killed nearly 60 people nationwide as security appeared to spiral out of control.

At least 37 people were killed in Baghdad alone. Many of them died when a U.S. helicopter fired on a disabled U.S. Bradley fighting vehicle as Iraqis swarmed around it, cheering, throwing stones and waving the black and yellow sunburst banner of Iraq's most-feared terror organization.

Hope the guys from the Bradley are ok,but NICE SHOOTING! I am getting a lot of pleasure thinking about this. Not to pc I guess
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:00:54 PM EST
GOOD!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:01:43 PM EST
Yeah I haven't heard anything about the condition of the crew, but it puts a huge smile on my face to know that the helo waited until there was a crowd around the vehicle before firing.


allah must be running out of virgins.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:04:29 PM EST
When I heard this on Fox News this morning, they said it was to prevent the crowd from looting the weapons left behind. What weapons would the troops have left on the Bradley?

Anyway, nice shooting. Baited traps are fine with me.... fullclip
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:05:14 PM EST
Of course, CNN is reporting that everybody was just pounding on the hull of the Bradley with metal pipes and that no combatants were in the area. Hmmm......

I wonder how that Bradley became "disabled" in the first place?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:14:37 PM EST
I want to see the gun camera footage!!!!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:21:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By fullclip:
When I heard this on Fox News this morning, they said it was to prevent the crowd from looting the weapons left behind. What weapons would the troops have left on the Bradley?

Anyway, nice shooting. Baited traps are fine with me.... fullclip



Coaxial guns maybe?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:27:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 1:29:15 PM EST by ABNAK]
Let's see:


Angry, irrational Iraqi terrorist sympathizers


Sticks


Pip­es


Rocks


Yep, sounds like a legitimate target to me. About fucking time!
Think we offended anyone?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:27:50 PM EST
SOme video of the Bradley here: www.reuters.com

Play the video in the left side box that says TELEVISION

FOX pics: www.foxnews.com


A Bradley fighting vehicle rushing down Haifa Street, a major traffic artery near the Green Zone, to assist a U.S. patrol was disabled by a car bomb about 6:50 a.m., the U.S. military said. Two Bradley crewmen were wounded by the bomb and four were injured by grenades and small-arms fire as they fled the vehicle, the military said.



Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:29:34 PM EST

IT'S A...TRAP...HEH HEH...
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:30:08 PM EST
About damn time! A couple more instances of this and bet the Iraqis learn to stay away from disabled US vehicles really fast.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:34:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By SWIRE:
About damn time! A couple more instances of this and bet the Iraqis learn to stay away from disabled US vehicles really fast.



They're not that smart.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:37:30 PM EST
WHY WHY !!!!!!!!!!


WHY the HELL in this under INVESTAGATION!!!!!!!!!


just heard it on local news .. also video of a reporter that was there and died.. < but it was caught on tape >


they died they raised arms agaisnt the US armed forces in Battle.. SO WHY THE HELL IS THIS INCEDNT UNDER INVESTAGATION!!!!!!!!!


PC will lose this war..
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:40:03 PM EST
Aren't those boxes filled with stuff you probably wouldn't want to touch??
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:43:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:46:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By fullclip:
When I heard this on Fox News this morning, they said it was to prevent the crowd from looting the weapons left behind. What weapons would the troops have left on the Bradley?

Anyway, nice shooting. Baited traps are fine with me.... fullclip



TOW missiles & box launcher...

25mm APFDS

M240 coax

And maybe some extra gear (rocket launchers, mortar, etc)...

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:48:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

We are weak. We are weak because while these people dance in the streets, we arent raining steel down on them and smearing the streets with their blood.



No, we're strong enough that it doesn't matter...

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:50:16 PM EST

Hold still, Mr. Tango.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:53:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:54:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

We are weak. We are weak because while these people dance in the streets, we arent raining steel down on them and smearing the streets with their blood.



No, we're strong enough that it doesn't matter...




You are wrong…

These pictures of them dancing by the disabled Bradly are all over the Arab media as an example of how the 'heroic' iraqis are defeating the infidel americans…

Image is everything in the Arab world…

Andy
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:56:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By DzlBenz:
us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040912/capt.sge.ive71.120904154722.photo02.default-384x249.jpg
Hold still, Mr. Tango.



will not happen..

the guy that takes him out will be charged with murder.. since the dead guy was RELOADING and therfore NOT a threat at the time..

sad isnt it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Link Posted: 9/12/2004 1:57:14 PM EST
It's about time.

If I was in charge, the Tangos would run from a disabled vehicle or aircraft like it was a ticking bomb.

Because it would be.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:01:01 PM EST
The aftermath.





That's a hard lesson to learn, isn't it?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:04:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:04:35 PM EST
Anyone remember the scene in BHD when the Dboys return to one of the downed helos and tell the kids "this is mine."
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:07:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By mattja:
The aftermath.



Looks like somebody dropped their flag.


That's a hard lesson to learn, isn't it?



"Experience is a hard school, but a fool will learn in no other." - Ben Franklin
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:09:08 PM EST


Oh look! they're leaking! …… shame.

ANdy
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:09:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 2:11:29 PM EST by EricTheHun]
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:16:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 2:17:40 PM EST by Lumpy196]
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:18:38 PM EST
"The dead from the helicopter strike included Arab television reporter Mazen al-Tumeizi, who screamed, “I’m dying, I’m dying!” as a cameraman recorded the chaotic scene. An Iraqi cameraman working for the Reuters news agency and an Iraqi freelance photographer for Getty Images were wounded. "

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5949556/


Those reporters sure were fast on the scene.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:21:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
Maybe this tragedy will convince ALL Iraqi parents to teach their children this very good lesson:

When the bullets begin to fly....GO HOME!

Eric The(Irritated)Hun



Well said. +1
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:21:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Groovinator:
"The dead from the helicopter strike included Arab television reporter Mazen al-Tumeizi, who screamed, “I’m dying, I’m dying!” as a cameraman recorded the chaotic scene. An Iraqi cameraman working for the Reuters news agency and an Iraqi freelance photographer for Getty Images were wounded. "

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5949556/


Those reporters sure were fast on the scene.



That was My take on it when I first heard about it. How is it that they "Just happend to be in the area" when this went down?????

Get to close to the fire...You get burned.

Tall Shadow
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:27:52 PM EST


Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:31:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 2:32:31 PM EST by Boom_Stick]
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:36:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:40:41 PM EST
Screw hearts and minds. Grab em hard by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:41:08 PM EST
Blood from that pali reported splashed the camera lense when the helos started blowin gstuff away and his death was transmitted direct live on Al Arabiya
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:44:26 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:48:29 PM EST
Yea, I was just gonna say , I'd like to see the camera footage from both the helo and the camera man that thought it was too imprtant to shoot the film instead of helping his reporter, HA HA. Maybe they will learn travel with terrorists , die like terrorists! Notice on the MSNBC site that they have a window that says "1000 dead. Grim milestone. SLIDE SHOW!!! " Like it's entertainment or something. Bastards!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:48:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Boom_Stick:

Originally Posted By mattja:
The aftermath.

cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51293533.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1EF189F8CE217E6­7FE7757C85AE85A779B
cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51293483.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E005D36AE177AB­D8B7757C85AE85A779B
cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51293431.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E3EF3B11F334E2­1A87757C85AE85A779B

That's a hard lesson to learn, isn't it?




[Dave_A]Oh, no!! Thats not winning their hearts and minds!![/Dave_A]



No weapons -> Not a military target, the news is TECHNICALLY right on that one.

However, in this case, they were standing on a military target -> casualty of war... Helicopters are not quiet, and when the thing showed up & lined up on that Bradley, they should have started running...

Unlike some of you, I don't revel in seeing folks blown up just because they were demonstrating against us, but the Bradley had to be destroyed to prevent capture of weapons or technology...

Now, if we start blasting peaceful demonstrations just because we don't agree with them, then we do get into the point of losing the war (freedom of speech, fredom of protest, just only if you say/protest what we want you to??)... We are not an imperial power over there, but if we start acting like one then we will be viewed as one by the entire country, not just the badguys....

Once again, we're back to this: Either you're fore the 'sensitive' mission, or you should be calling for a withdrawal. There is no other purpose to US troops being in Iraq, and never will be. The Govt hasn't bought your world-wide-holy-war... Obviously, I don't either....

And before someone brihgs it up, if they were beating an American with pipes, then by all means light 'em up...

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:49:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 2:51:46 PM EST by The_Groovinator]
They've got to be running out of virgins by now.

----

Added... I didn't see how long it was from when the Bradley was disabled to when the reporters/mob showed up.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:49:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By deimos:
Blood from that pali reported splashed the camera lense when the helos started blowin gstuff away and his death was transmitted direct live on Al Arabiya



Damn...anyone got the video???
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:50:05 PM EST
Well, all of them want their 70 virgins and to visit Allah, so what is wrong with us speeding up their journey?? Kill 'em all!!
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:53:36 PM EST
We need more "after pics"
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:03:53 PM EST
That is why it is called "Death from above".Such is the will of Allah.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:08:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2004 3:10:00 PM EST by Boom_Stick]

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Unlike some of you, I don't revel in seeing folks blown up just because they were demonstrating against us, but the Bradley had to be destroyed to prevent capture of weapons or technology...



Marching outside the RNC and disrupting it just about cross's the line of "demonstrating", but it is considered demonstration nonetheless.
The I-hate-America arabs aren't "demonstrating", they're the one's reveling in the destruction of our equipment and troops. That attitude alone causes me to say "Oh well." in the sight of their causilities.

If you saw one of those fvckers jumping and dancing over your body before you slipped off into the black, would you feel contempt for them or love and hugs? Yeah I know, who knows what we'd really be thinking as we die, but given the choice now, what would you say?
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:12:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:
As sad as that sight is, our nation owes its full resources to making certain that OUR young men in those Bradleys return home from their mission safe and sound.

If that means that some Iraqi children die in the process of learning the lesson that terrorism is a dangerous game to play, then, so be it!

The parents are to blame for the actions of the children that the parents have neither prevented nor discouraged!

Maybe this tragedy will convince ALL Iraqi parents to teach their children this very good lesson:

When the bullets begin to fly....GO HOME!

Eric The(Irritated)Hun



Its not a sad sight.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:22:43 PM EST
About frigging time.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:28:37 PM EST
Some one needs to photo shop that into a "owned" pic
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:33:08 PM EST
Kick butt...good going in the gunship.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:38:26 PM EST
Excellant! See if they pull that crap again...
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