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Posted: 1/11/2005 7:42:34 AM EDT
That's the asking price anyway. I'll stick with my 590's & 870's.

The $75,000 Shotgun...................................................

"BOSS&COMPANY 28 GAUGE ROUND BODY, SIDELOCK, 2 3/4" CHAMBERS, 27" BARRELS, ENGLISH STOCK, 5.2 LBS, CHOKED MODIFIED/FULL, DROP AT THE COMB: 1.5", DROP AT THE HEEL 2", 1/8" CAST OFF, 14 3/4" LENGTH OF PULL TO AN ENGLISH LEATHER PAD, SINGLE TRIGGER, FINE GAME SCENE ENGRAVED, ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL ORIGINAL CONDITION, ASSISTED OPENER, SERIAL NUMBER 98XX
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:53:53 AM EDT
I've seen more expensive shotguns
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:54:24 AM EDT
Ummmmmmmm.............. NO.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:54:29 AM EDT
Perfect thing for shooting a $2 bird.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:54:44 AM EDT
Holland&Holland Doubles are more expensive I think...
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:56:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Holland&Holland Doubles are more expensive I think...




Try Purdey.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:56:34 AM EDT
some just sold for about $200k over here
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:57:22 AM EDT
I've seen ones that cost that.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:57:42 AM EDT
Some people have money to burn.

I don't see anyone bat an eye when someone on this board says they got a "New Toy" and it's a $6500+ .50 Barrett.

Right now I have a double barrel shotgun that belongs to a friend of mine. It used to belong to his father (passed away) and it also suffered the ravages of a flood (rust and rear buttstock almost rotted away)

However, the gun IS still salvageable. It'll cost about $3K to restore it to shooting condition.

The worth after it's restored?

About $15K. No shit. The guy that will eventually do the work has even offered to broker the sale of the completed shotgun (if so desired) in a place where, he says, it WILL sell.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:00:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Holland&Holland Doubles are more expensive I think...



Didn't they make a 4 gauge double barrel with a jungle and dinosaurs engraved on it?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:05:24 AM EDT
Hey, why not.....
It looks nice and I like something different once in a while
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:05:57 AM EDT
Merkel's ain't cheap either......
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:17:11 AM EDT
I don't know very much about shotguns, but when I shop at the Beretta gallery in NY, they have a number in the six-figure price range.  I think most of that money is in the engraving.  I also know of at least two people who have purchased multiple shotguns in the five or six figure range.

By the way, when I say five or six figures I am not including the decimal places!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:19:50 AM EDT
[french knight from Holy Grail]

I already got one...

heh heh, I told them I already got one...

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:58:05 AM EDT
Have a brace of "Bespoke" James Purdey' and Son made for you in London in a non traditional bore like a 28 it will be several years wait and several hundred thousand dollars.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:02:57 AM EDT
WTF, if I'm going to buy a $75,000 anything, it better be NEW and FULL AUTO.  Not some historical piece from 20,0000000 BC.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:08:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M4Kid:
WTF, if I'm going to buy a $75,000 anything, it better be NEW and FULL AUTO.  Not some historical piece from 20,0000000 BC.



Couldn't agree more. Think of the full autos you could buy for $75 thousand bucks.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:10:17 AM EDT
That's funny, the used tactical Mossberg my friend bought for $230 looks better.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:20:28 AM EDT
just think of the number of Full Auto's you could buy for $75k



Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:26:29 AM EDT
You are paying for the hours of work a group of specialized craftmen used to create a funtional piece of art.  You aren't going to pick up a Van Gogh for $75k, but I'd rather have the shotgun over my mantle.

I'll be honest with you.  I would go full auto before I got the shotgun, but the value of the full auto is more likely to be screwed up by the .gov then the shotgun.

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:33:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Green_Canoe:

I'll be honest with you.  I would go full auto before I got the shotgun, but the value of the full auto is more likely to be screwed up by the .gov then the shotgun.




That's exactly right, the shotgun has intrinsic value vs. government imposed scarcity value.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:34:41 PM EDT
I've played with some 50K double rifles for elephants and tigers in india...
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:39:53 PM EDT
Purdey, Boss, Holland and Holland all make guns worth 6 figures.  Some of their rifles sell for as much.  In the past 10 years some Spanish gunmakers (Arriaga, AyA, and others) are making best grade guns in the 6-8k range using the same techniques as the Brits.  There's nothing like shooting a shotgun that is fit to you instead of you fitting to the shotgun.  It's pure instinctive shooting.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:42:10 PM EDT
I went to school with a guy whose dad had a bunch of expensive weapons like that.

He had an entire safe room full of firearms.  None of them were fun, black rifles or FA... they were all fancy double barrels, shotguns, etc that he never fired.

Some of his individual weapons were worth over 100k.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:43:48 PM EDT
Would give a whole new meaning to "bling" if some crack head scored one of these big-$$$$'s shotguns from a burglary then took a hacksaw to the barrel and stock
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:27:53 PM EDT
As said, many times the money is in the wood upgrades and the engraving.

I've seen a walnut blank (just a slab of wood) go for over $1500, and I'm sure there are some that go for much more.    

Then add in hundreds of hours of free hand deep relief engraving, not roll stamped on scroll.  Perfect wood to metal fit.  And a gun that is personally tailored to your size.  

I'd rather have a $75k shotgun than $75k in jewelry but many rappers and celebs spend it on rocks.

That said, $8000ish will get a gun as good or better for actual use (Kreigoff K80, Perazzi, etc).  
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Related topic:

Some will disagree, but there is a difference in a Baikal, a Stoeger, and a Browning or a cheap Beretta.  

And there is a difference in a cheap Beretta or Browning and an expensive Beretta, Perazzi, Kolar, or Kreigoff.  But once you get to this level, anything over that you're mostly paying for wood and engraving or multibarrel sets.  


Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:31:23 PM EDT
Downrange 12/04: Thief Steals SIG's "Thunder"




In this space, I usually stick with discussions of politics or gun ownership that apply to broad audiences. This month is a departure from that formula, because of the unique nature of a stolen gun that’s just come to light. That this priceless gun is one of a kind isn’t so newsworthy; expensive firearms are stolen from individuals every day, here and abroad. No, this gun was stolen from a manufacturer, which itself is curious. And that the thief cherry-picked this specific item from among thousands is confounding as well. Here’s the full story:

SIGARMS Inc. is offering a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the individuals responsible for the theft and the ultimate return of its finest show gun — a custom-engraved Blaser R93 named “Okavango Thunder.” The rifle, along with a matching custom engraved Damascus steel knife named “Okavango Lightning,” was reported stolen when company officials discovered it missing during booth set-up at the 2004 SHOT Show in Las Vegas on February 11.

“When we realized the rifle was stolen, we immediately notified SHOT Show security and contacted the Las Vegas Police Department. We then contacted the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which owns the SHOT Show and asked for their assistance in contacting the ATF personnel on-hand at SHOT. The rest of the evening was spent assisting the police and ATF in establishing their investigation,” explained Mark Kresser, vice president of commercial sales for SIGARMS.

The stolen items were among the many SIGARMS exhibited during the Safari Club International (SCI) Show in Reno. When that show closed on January 24, company officials cataloged, repacked and secured under lock and key the show guns for exhibit at the SHOT Show just three weeks later in Las Vegas. The show guns were then stored in Nevada between the two shows.

SIGARMS officials discovered both “Thunder” and “Lightning” had gone missing when the entire contents of the SCI Show firearms container were unpacked. SIGARMS estimates the value of the rifle to be in excess of $60,000.


“Someone knew exactly what they were looking for,” said Kresser, “they took exactly one case — but it was one of our crown jewels. That is why we are offering a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the individuals responsible for the theft and the ultimate return of “Okavango Thunder and Lightning” in their original condition.”

This rifle, the “Okavango Thunder,” is one of a kind and features Bullino on-steel engraving, ivory and scrimshaw detail work and other features, including an ivory bolt knob and intricate detail work. The accompanying “Okavango Lightning” was an equally ornate Damascus steel knife in the same motif, right down to its ivory handle.

Engraver Richard Maier, better known under the artist name “Ritchi” for his animal and live wild motifs, called “Okavango Thunder” one of his finest works in the Bullino engraving. This engraving technique is performed with fine engraving needles and magnifying glass. The resulting effect resembles photo-realism. Maier further enhanced the effect by carefully dyeing the ivory and scrimshaw work.

“Okavango Lightning” was produced by Egon Trompeter, the renowned knife maker. In lavish preparation and concept he designed this knife to the set of “Okavango Lightning.”

Together “Okavango Thunder and Lightning” represent one of the finest custom rifle and knife sets ever made, and their theft is a great loss not only for SIGARMS and Blaser, but all those who appreciate the fine craftsmanship of these two great artisans.




-Todd Woodard


Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:33:00 PM EDT
waste of $$$
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:35:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
waste of $$$



I agree, since its on a Blazer
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:39:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Green_Canoe:
You are paying for the hours of work a group of specialized craftmen used to create a funtional piece of art.  You aren't going to pick up a Van Gogh for $75k, but I'd rather have the shotgun over my mantle.

I'll be honest with you.  I would go full auto before I got the shotgun, but the value of the full auto is more likely to be screwed up by the .gov then the shotgun.




It took thousands of years for nature to make a rock too.  How many one of a kind rocks do you want to buy?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 4:43:59 PM EDT
Also we can look at two similar rifles.

Pick two big bore bolt actions.

Put a rugged finish on one and a plastic drop in stock and its an "Alaska Rifle".

Put a high polish blue on the other and spend $1000 on a piece of walnut with perfect wood to metal fit and its an "African Rifle".  

Either one will kill a bear or a lion just as dead, functionally they are (basically) the same, but they look different and people will pay more for one than the other.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:04:29 PM EDT
Who say's ugly's cheap.....
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:15:35 PM EDT
When I was at the ATA  Grand American this year, I called my wife on the cell phone while I was holding a purdy with a price tag of $50,000.  I asked her how much money we made last year and metionioned that I was holding about one years salary in my hands as we spoke, and then I said "Ooops", and several other expletives.  My buddy breaks out laughing while the wife asks me in a rather serious note (which I've seldom heard)  what happened.   "umm, nothing, really."  I think she was a little tense at that point.  I let her off the hook, but it may be a succesful strategie for the next gun purchase....
"This Merkel followed me home because I broke it, it was less than one years salary, so I bought it to make it right with the dealer and I fixed it on the way home!  Aren't you glad you married such a handy guy!"...think it will work?
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