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Posted: 9/13/2004 6:50:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:51:10 PM EST
Fucker.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:51:48 PM EST
Hello .499 CALI caliber! Then watch the politicians cry 'loophole'.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:52:09 PM EST
Damn!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:53:04 PM EST

I believe the .50 Beowulf is .499 !

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:53:07 PM EST
what a piece of shit, fuck the terminator, he might as well be a liberal



Fucking moron cant even speak English but the people of Cali voted him for Gov.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:53:59 PM EST
Good for nothing prick that Arnold.

[arnold] I make money by exploiting guns in movies then take them away from U.S. citizens [/arnold]
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:55:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:55:28 PM EST
He did marry into the Kennedy family.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:56:12 PM EST
[arnold]I was saw soviet tanks when I was living in Austria[/arnold]


um no you didnt
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:56:18 PM EST
I am so sorry for you guys.
It will never end.
Next year they will ban something else.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:56:49 PM EST
don't blame me I voted Mclintock

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:57:24 PM EST
He will sign the ammunition fingerprint bill too I think. Fucker.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:57:27 PM EST
What happens to the guns that are already there? Grandfathered in? If so, will there be a rush to get them in before the law takes effect?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 6:59:20 PM EST

Hey, he didn't need a .50 to kill
the Predator and that was a
goddamned alien!



What did you people expect? I
laughed my ass off when people
started saying that Arnie was the
second coming of Reagan. I like
the Governator as much as the
next guy, but he is a RINO who
isn't fit to sniff Ronald Reagan's
jock. Now we are seeing proof.

Somewhere, Tom McClintock is
thinking: "I told you so..."
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:00:18 PM EST
Does it ban the possession or sale of 50BMG ammo?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:00:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
What happens to the guns that are already there? Grandfathered in? If so, will there be a rush to get them in before the law takes effect?



Supposedly, you can buy them through the end of the year, and there will be a registration period like they did with SB23.


Wonder if things will be like SB23, in that maybe 10% will register?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:00:45 PM EST
so when are you Cali guys going to revolt against the state govt??
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:00:50 PM EST
What a bunch of shit. How can anyone justify banning a gun that has never been used in a crime?

Cali is a lost fucking cause. Please get out, guys.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:00:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew:
don't blame me I voted Mclintock




+1
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:02:16 PM EST
That's fucking pathetic on the part of Arnold.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:03:29 PM EST
THANK GOD HE CANT RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:05:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew:
don't blame me I voted Mclintock




+2

Funny thing is the law basically defines the BMG round, so pretty much all other .50s are OK.

Damn, credit card is already pretty full. Hmmm.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:05:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
What happens to the guns that are already there? Grandfathered in? If so, will there be a rush to get them in before the law takes effect?



The law takes effect on 1/1/2005, from what I read of the bill. It is tacked onto the Roberti Roos bill of 1989 requiring registration.

Sorry to make generalizations, but what the hell is wrong with California?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:05:46 PM EST
Ahhnold,
[JoePesci]YOU, MuddaFucka,YOUU!!![/JoePesci]

I really feel for you guys in Cali. As we speak, a wack job Senator
in MI is trying to propose a similar Ban, reflective of Kali's AWB.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:07:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By JCKnife:
What a bunch of shit. How can anyone justify banning a gun that has never been used in a crime?

Cali is a lost fucking cause. Please get out, guys.



No, they will tell you about the beaches, the mountains, how the whole country depends on Kali's economy, etc, but they won't get out, even though there really isn't much other choice.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:08:32 PM EST
We knew Arnold was really a Demican or a Republicrat, but Tom didn't have the votes to oust Davis and we believed Arnold did. Now we have to take the bad with the good.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:09:20 PM EST
So, what company will make the .499 Californian?

They should make it more powerful then the .50 BMG.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Arnold signed the .50 ban in CA today.

Legislative Update 09/13/2004




I love how the top of the page says "Welcome to California". Exactly.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:10:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:10:54 PM EST by ar50troll]

Originally Posted By Spade:
So, what company will make the .499 Californian?

They should make it more powerful then the .50 BMG.


Better to just vote him and Feinstein out and restore American Liberties...
They can't ban that.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:11:05 PM EST
What a pussy. Shit now I have to go buy a couple.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:14:20 PM EST
Kali guys,move to NEVADA.It's better over here.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:16:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:20:21 PM EST by nightstalker]
Killing a civilian will get you enhanced penalties if you use a .50bmg or "assault weapon", even more than a semi-auto firearm of the less-evil variety. Killing a police officer is a hate crime and is enhanced over a civilian killing.

This must be Arnies small token payment for Feinstein's support in the election. There's an ammunition tax and fingerprint bill on his desk as well as a very punitive firearm storage bill (someone steals your gun and uses it and you may be liable) that translates into lock EVERYTHING up in the safe or MAKE YOUR WHOLE HOUSE A SAFE.

SECTION 1. Section 245 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
245. (a) (1) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of
another with a deadly weapon or instrument other than a firearm or
by any means of force likely to produce great bodily injury shall be
punished by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four
years, or in a county jail for not exceeding one year, or by a fine
not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both the fine and
imprisonment.
(2) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another
with a firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison
for two, three, or four years, or in a county jail for not less than
six months and not exceeding one year, or by both a fine not
exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) and imprisonment.
(3) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another
with a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200, or an assault weapon,
as defined in Section 12276 or 12276.1, or a .50 BMG rifle, as
defined in Section 12278, shall be punished by imprisonment in the
state prison for 4, 8, or 12 years.
(b) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of another
with a semiautomatic firearm shall be punished by imprisonment in the
state prison for three, six, or nine years.
(c) Any person who commits an assault with a deadly weapon or
instrument, other than a firearm, or by any means likely to produce
great bodily injury upon the person of a peace officer or
firefighter, and who knows or reasonably should know that the victim
is a peace officer or firefighter engaged in the performance of his
or her duties, when the peace officer or firefighter is engaged in
the performance of his or her duties, shall be punished by
imprisonment in the state prison for three, four, or five years.
(d) (1) Any person who commits an assault with a firearm upon the
person of a peace officer or firefighter, and who knows or reasonably
should know that the victim is a peace officer or firefighter
engaged in the performance of his or her duties, when the peace
officer or firefighter is engaged in the performance of his or her
duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for
four, six, or eight years.
(2) Any person who commits an assault upon the person of a peace
officer or firefighter with a semiautomatic firearm and who knows or
reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or
firefighter
engaged in the performance of his or her duties, when the
peace officer or firefighter is engaged in the performance of his or
her duties, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison
for five, seven, or nine years.
(3) Any person who commits an assault with a machinegun, as
defined in Section 12200, or an assault weapon, as defined in Section
12276 or 12276.1, or a .50 BMG rifle,
as defined in Section 12278,
upon the person of a peace officer or firefighter, and who knows or
reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer or
firefighter engaged in the performance of his or her duties, shall be
punished by imprisonment in the state prison for 6, 9, or 12 years.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:16:43 PM EST
that bitch
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:23:07 PM EST
AB50 appears on first read to allow currently registered multicaliber rifles (like my AR-15 which fires a variety of rounds including the .50) to be currently considered a registered .50. Some consolation that is!
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:26:05 PM EST
What did you people expect, that he would have had any balls? McClintock had no chance in hell of ever being elected. Davis would have been terrible, Bustamante would have been even worse, and that leaves who else? This tool was the only one who had a real chance to get the votes needed, and he got them and then some.

It's no surprise that he signed this bill, and in fact I believe he will sign the ammunition registration bill as well. He is republican in name only, or rather a Hollywood/Manhattan republican which means he's a rich liberal that just wants to keep more of his money.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:38:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 7:40:57 PM EST by SC_00_05]

Originally Posted By Spade:
So, what company will make the .499 Californian?

They should make it more powerful then the .50 BMG.


That is a great idea. Whoever makes it should just make it a borderline cannon. Great, now I only have a few months to save for a .50. The guys at the store said they do sell recievers stand alone at least.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:49:26 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:50:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wolfpack:
No sex with the dead either....


story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20040913/od_nm/crime_necrophilia_dc



What about pre-ban corpses?
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:54:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By pieeater:
What a pussy. Shit now I have to go buy a couple.



Hey - Arnold is no pussy. He's a girlyman, and a fucked up one at that. How do you spell loser? A-R-N-O-L-D.

Link Posted: 9/13/2004 7:54:31 PM EST
Too bad for the residence of Kalifornistan.

Thank God I don't live there.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:06:43 PM EST
Looks like there will be a mad rush for the guns. Barretts going to sell a ton of them, I hope they have them stockpiled.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:08:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 8:20:19 PM EST by ishoot2live]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Arnold signed the .50 ban in CA today.

Legislative Update 09/13/2004




This guy had me believing that he was on our side. Every dollar this goofy bastard made was from violence and weapons. When I heard his speech at the RNC I thought Kommiefornia, and ultimately America had a chance. Well, it looks like Mr. "Terminator" has shown his true colors once and for all.

I guess being married to a Kennedy should have been the first indication of betrayal. As tuff as "Ahnold" appears to be, I have come to the conclusion that although I don't know who wears the "pants" in that family, I certainly know who wears the panties....

Once I entertained the thought about allowing foreigners to run for the Presidency of the United States of America. Well guess what? "Ahnold" blew that big time.

I am so done with this shit!

Thank God I live in Nevada.


Oh and by the way: This is the same idiot that came to Las Vegas, Nevada and campaigned to get "Kommiefornians" that had already fled the tyrannical grip of the "Red State" to go back there. He even offered to drive the moving truck himself. If I remember correctly he stalled the truck on the Las Vegas Strip and couldn't get it started again.

What A Maroon....
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:10:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 8:11:46 PM EST by Moof]
The good news is, you can keep it if you register it.

The bad news is, if you register it The State owns it; they decide where you're allowed to store it, how and under what conditions you're allowed to transport it, and where you can and cannot shoot it.

To wit:

AB50

SEC. 9. Section 12285 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

(c) A person who has registered an assault weapon or registered a
.50 BMG rifle under this section may possess it only under any of
the following conditions unless a permit allowing additional uses is
first obtained under Section 12286:

(1) At that person's residence, place of business, or other
property owned by that person, or on property owned by another with
the owner's express permission.

(2) While on the premises of a target range of a public or private
club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing
shooting at targets.

(3) While on a target range that holds a regulatory or business
license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range.

(4) While on the premises of a shooting club which is licensed
pursuant to the Fish and Game Code.

(5) While attending any exhibition, display, or educational
project which is about firearms and which is sponsored by, conducted
under the auspices of, or approved by a law enforcement agency or a
nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or
promotes education about, firearms.

(6) While on publicly owned land if the possession and use of a
firearm described in Section 12276, 12276.1, 12276.5, or 12278, is
specifically permitted by the managing agency of the land.

(7) While transporting the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle between
any of the places mentioned in this subdivision, or to any licensed
gun dealer, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 12290, for
servicing or repair pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 12290, if
the assault weapon is transported as required by Section 12026.1.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:12:38 PM EST
Did you guys honestly expect anything different? Not rubbing in salt but seriously that guy is a flaming, neon lighted, RINO. I'm thankful he can't rise a whole lot higher.

Sorry to hear Cali gets screwed again. Hope the .50 manufactures turn off the supply switch to Cali law enforcement.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:13:34 PM EST
*cough* 408 Cheytac *cough*
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:14:55 PM EST
That weather must be fucking great or something. I wouldnt raise my family in that communist shit hole.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:15:25 PM EST
What? ...are y'all a bunch of underachievers? .499? No! A .51 Cabrillo
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:15:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2004 8:17:11 PM EST by mattja]
Surprise, surprise. Not! I wonder how many gun owners will vote for him next time around?

BTW, now they have a model for a federal ban. Think about that.
Link Posted: 9/13/2004 8:16:14 PM EST
Well, I'm going to be leaving in a few months but I'm STILL GOING TO BUY ONE in order to support a California gun dealer.

Arnie will be getting a nice "FOAD" letter when I depart explaining just why another homeowning taxpayer is fleeing this Socialist Paradise. I guess I'll just have to add this FUCKED AND USELESS BAN to my laundry list of reasons why I chose not to live here anymore.

Fuck Arnold and fuck California.

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