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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:46:26 PM EDT
While shooting during my yearly birthday shoot, I finally was able to find an answer to the .45 ACP vs 9mm Parabellum debate. The following are photos taken of the final jug to be shot with my 1911 before I put it away. I was shooting Remington 230grn FMJ stuff. This jug(empty mind you) was shot from about 15 meters when this occured:
  And after I removed it:  Would someone like to rationalize to me how this happened? My 2nd time ever shooting a .45, and the first time shooting my own 1911. Has me thinking I will continue to carry my 9mm. I had no such problems with my USP shooting 115grn Winchester White Box FMJ.  -Ben |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:50:35 PM EDT
[#1]
heres what happened:
the bullet transfered most of its energy into motion, since that jug probably weights about an oz. 45 is a better man stopper than 9mm hands down, but when youve got to carry something, the added capacity of 9mm, with the small trade off of power is defiently worth it. |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:54:13 PM EDT
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How far did the empty jug fly?
I can see this happening if the material was light enough to be moved, yet strong enough to a) absorb the impact and b) retian the bullet. This is assuming the jug was sent flying. |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:56:13 PM EDT
[#3]
".45 vs 9mm debate put to rest"
You are joking right 
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:56:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Yup you must of limp wristed it!
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:56:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Because the .45 is a wimpy caliber and those that carry it are girls.
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Posted: 11/1/2006 8:59:23 PM EDT
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And an empty jug is a good representation of flesh/tissue how?
Oh. That's right. It isn't. Because humans/animals aren't made out of thin layers of plastic surrounding masses of air. |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:01:31 PM EDT
[#7]
last time I got shot with a 45 it felt like a mosquito bite...
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:02:59 PM EDT
[#8]
I've never met an empty plastic jug that my .45apc couldn't kill.
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:03:32 PM EDT
[#9]
I didn't even know somebody had shot me until somebody told me they saw him do it. |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:04:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Bullets are unpredictable and do weird things. I've seen some voodoo-shit with lots of calibers.
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:05:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes, I was very much joking. And the bottle flew quite a ways. There was one other bottle that went flying that retained a round inside it. I figure it punctured and then spun around inside while the bottle flew. And for those taking it too serious...this thread is mostly a joke, just thought I'd put some nice pics up of bullet proof bottles.  -Ben |
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:05:25 PM EDT
[#12]
All I know is nobody ever died from 9mm...no wait.
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:09:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Yep, that settles that
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:11:01 PM EDT
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Now we know that if someone is shooting a .45 at ya, just quick grab a milk jug and hold it in front of ya. Wheew! , close call. Glad I had a milk jug and the guy wasn't using a 9mikemike, could have been killt!1!
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:13:55 PM EDT
[#15]
I just filed a patent for a new lightweight body armor design.
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Posted: 11/1/2006 9:15:56 PM EDT
[#16]
 That was my yougest (17 years old) brothers first brainiac idea when he witnessed it. I had to explain to him why it would never work.-Ben |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 8:47:43 AM EDT
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Well that milk jug does it. I guess I have four 45s I need to put on the EE if anyone would have such a weak, unproven POS caliber.
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Posted: 11/2/2006 8:49:48 AM EDT
[#18]
Dumbest ballistics related thread ever.
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Posted: 11/2/2006 8:54:16 AM EDT
[#19]
The .45 is awful.
Everyone: Send your .45s to me for proper disposal.... |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:02:23 AM EDT
[#20]
Come on now. The post was a joke ... get it? A Joke!
We all know the 9 mm wouldn't even have dented the jug. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:24:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:25:19 AM EDT
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It should be obvious in the well focused last picture. The bullet is significantly deformed. It hit something else first then ricocheted into the jug and got stuck.
You hit the ground before you hit the jug! You MISSED the jug from 15 meters away!!! Kent |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:27:47 AM EDT
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Oh sweet Jesus. Not this again. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:29:10 AM EDT
[#24]
and as such, it is posted in the GD and not in the ammo fourm. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:31:02 AM EDT
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I think the OP should stand stand in place of the plastic jug for the next test...then post pics
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:31:14 AM EDT
[#26]
OUCH, That's got to hurt. PWN3D |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:37:50 AM EDT
[#27]
Won't somebody please think of the milk jugs.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...jugs. 
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:39:57 AM EDT
[#28]
ding because everyone knows the real man's caliber is 10 mm automatic. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:41:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:43:21 AM EDT
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I dont have anything useful to add to this thread
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:48:07 AM EDT
[#31]
I thought the 45/9mm debate was on Tuesday or Wednesday...Its Thursday
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:50:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Twenty-Two-sday WSSM Wednesday Thirty-Eight Thursday Forty-Five Friday Scatter-Gun Saturday (Scatterday for the old-timers) Git Some Sunday (All calibers) |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:51:11 AM EDT
[#33]
Wow.
You blinded me with ... "science". 
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Posted: 11/2/2006 9:52:56 AM EDT
[#34]
I would have to agree with that. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:04:24 AM EDT
[#35]
Make sure the jug is filled with bread. That'll stop anything. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:17:31 AM EDT
[#36]
irony is totally lost on this crowd |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:24:05 AM EDT
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I believe it is not what you shoot, but how well you shoot it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:27:46 AM EDT
[#38]
Since nobody mentioned it, HAPPY 14TH BIRTHDAY!!!
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:28:47 AM EDT
[#39]
9mm would have bounced off, hit the shooter and given him a bad boo-boo. |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:33:57 AM EDT
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I'll give you $50 for each of them. HH |
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:42:07 AM EDT
[#41]
That is some awesome plastic in that jug.
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Posted: 11/2/2006 10:45:20 AM EDT
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.45? Sounds like a beer to me. 9mm? Have you ever seen a millimeter? Tiny. 9 of them isn't much bigger. My duce-duce could take down a grizzly no problem.
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