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Posted: 10/15/2004 7:38:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 7:45:07 PM EST by clean_cut]
This is an ode to the .44 magnum, a great cartridge. And nothing better to launch it with than a blued, Smith and Wesson model 29 (which I have). Mine has a 6" barrel. It is a beautiful gun. Evokes Dirty Harry and Taxi Driver. I traded a Glock 20 for it, and have not regretted it since.

Who here has a .44 magnum gun?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:39:31 PM EST
I have never even shot a 44 mag.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:39:36 PM EST
I got a .45LC....once again I am bigger than you


SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:40:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
I got a .45LC....once again I am bigger than you


SGtar15





The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:49:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 7:51:56 PM EST by -Duke-Nukem-]
A couple of MODCC shoots ago I dressed up as Dirty Harry and made a fool of myself with this:



S&W 29-3, 6 inch barrel, mirror finish blue, and I do have the original wood grips for it. They scrape my hand bad when firing full power loads.

I'd post up the video I have of me shooting pepper poppers while yelling "do you feel lucky, punk" but its too embarrassing even for the usually shameless Duke Nukem.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:52:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
A couple of MODCC shoots ago I dressed up as Dirty Harry and made a fool of myself with this:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/MolonLabe/44mag.jpg

S&W 29-3, 6 inch barrel, mirror finish blue, and I do have the original wood grips for it. They scrape my hand bad when firing full power loads.

I'd post up the video I have of me shooting pepper poppers while yelling "do you feel lucky, punk" but its too embarrassing even for the shameless Duke Nukem.




That's a beauty. I have the same gun except with aftermarket wood grips with finger grooves. Very comfortable and fun to shoot.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:54:17 PM EST
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:56:37 PM EST




The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.



i always thought they were about equal? what makes it weaker?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:57:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week




.44 magnum is for the pure joy of shooting, not for down and dirty business of self defense.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 7:58:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By nchapa:




The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.



i always thought they were about equal? what makes it weaker?



The .45LC is older and can't be loaded to as high a pressure (and hence velocity)
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:02:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:02:36 PM EST
He was referring to Sarge's prowess/manhood......
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:02:46 PM EST
Wrong the 45LC can be loaded to much hotter loads than the .44 Rem Mag!! And with a much heavier bullet!!!


Bob
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:02:50 PM EST
I have a S&W 629 in 6". A real noise maker.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:03:25 PM EST
I've got a S&W #29 with an 8 3/8s" barrell. Nice to shoot.
A classy piece, like Clint's.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:04:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By bobbyjack:
Wrong the 45LC can be loaded to much hotter loads than the .44 Rem Mag!! And with a much heavier bullet!!!


Bob


I was talking SAAMI spec ammo, but thank you for correcting me. What is the weight comparison (heavy .44 v. heavy .45LC)?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:05:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By clean_cut:

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week




.44 magnum is for the pure joy of shooting, not for down and dirty business of self defense.



WTF? People actually go shooting just for fun? ohh yea now I remember why I bought my M44
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:06:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week



You only need 1 shot to do the job with the .44 though. The rest are to balance out the cylinder.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:06:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 8:07:42 PM EST by 2A373]

Originally Posted By ajm1911:

Originally Posted By nchapa:




The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.



i always thought they were about equal? what makes it weaker?



The .45LC is older and can't be loaded to as high a pressure (and hence velocity)



First off it's .45 Colt, not .45 LC.
Second .45 Colt can be loaded to very close to the same velocity as 44 Mag for Ruger, Freedom Arms & T/C firearms.

www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/index.php
45 COLT (Ruger, Freedom Arms & T/C Only)
CASE: WINCHESTER

BBL: 7.25"
PR: WINCHESTER LP

TWIST: 1:16"
TRIM: 1.280"



240 GR. SIE JHC(Starting Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.600"

LIL'GUN 27.0 1431 23,800 CUP

240 GR. SIE JHC(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.600"

LIL'GUN 27.8 1489 29,200 CUP



250 GR. HDY XTP(Starting Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.600"

LIL'GUN 23.5 1331 25,800 CUP

250 GR. HDY XTP(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.600"

LIL'GUN 25.5 1410 29,800 CUP



260 GR. NOS PART(Starting Loads)
DIA. .451
COL: 1.650"

LIL'GUN 19.0 1196 24,500 CUP

260 GR. NOS PART(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .451
COL: 1.650"

LIL'GUN 21.0 1312 30,000 CUP



300 GR. SPR JFP(Starting Loads)
DIA. .451
COL: 1.650"

LIL'GUN 18.0 1140 24,500 CUP

300 GR. SPR JFP(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .451
COL: 1.650"

LIL'GUN 20.2 1203 29,800 CUP



325 GR. LFN PB (Starting Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 20.0 1053 22,300 CUP

H110 21.0 1109 18,100 CUP

LIL'GUN 17.0 1061 20,700 CUP

325 GR. LFN PB (Maximum Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 23.0 1189 28,000 CUP

H110 24.0 1266 27,400 CUP

LIL'GUN 20.5 1235 29,700 CUP



335 GR. WLN GC (Starting Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 20.0 1011 21,100 CUP

H110 20.5 1109 19,200 CUP

LIL'GUN 17.0 1052 20,100 CUP

335 GR. WLN GC(Maximum Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 22.5C 1155 28,300 CUP

H110 23.5 1240 28,000 CUP

LIL'GUN 20.0 1206 29,600 CUP



360 GR. WLN GC (Starting Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 19.5 1004 21,100 CUP

H110 18.0 1012 20,200 CUP

LIL'GUN 15.5 984 22,400 CUP

360 GR. WLN GC (Maximum Loads)
DIA. .452
COL: 1.680"

H4227 22.0C 1167 29,800 CUP

H110 21.0 1151 28,300 CUP

LIL'GUN 18.0 1131 29,700 CUP

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:12:24 PM EST
i had a ruger vaquro in .44 mag and i have a winchester 94 trapper with a/o sights in .44 mag. the 94 is a great trail gun. capacity is 8 +1 and 33 inches oal and doesn't get the looks that my ak does when on the trail.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:14:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By 76R:

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week



You only need 1 shot to do the job with the .44 though. The rest are to balance out the cylinder.



Hmm I'm guessing you've never been in the projects
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:17:52 PM EST
.44 Desert Eagle. A work of art.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:18:31 PM EST
I had a 6" S&W model 29.
I sold it a couple of years ago, it gave me a flinch
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:19:07 PM EST
I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk, .44 mag, 7 1/2 inch barrel.

It is an old model, probably from the '60s.

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:21:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By clean_cut:
This is an ode to the .44 magnum, a great cartridge. And nothing better to launch it with than a blued, Smith and Wesson model 29 (which I have). Mine has a 6" barrel. It is a beautiful gun. Evokes Dirty Harry and Taxi Driver. I traded a Glock 20 for it, and have not regretted it since.

Who here has a .44 magnum gun?



Have one just as you describe - although I personally find it quite scary to have anything similar to you . BTW, when does THIS thread turn wierd?
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:22:50 PM EST
Since you showed me yours I guess that means I should show you mine. My 1st Big Bore Revolver.

Colt Anaconda with 4" Barrell.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:29:39 PM EST
The first handgun that I ever purchased was a S&W 629 44Mag w/ 8 3/8" barrel.

Shot my first deer with that revolver. Damn boating accident.....
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:37:43 PM EST
10 1/2in SS Super Blackhawk and a early 70's semiauto Ruger Carbine...
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:44:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 8:46:24 PM EST by sgtar15]

Originally Posted By ajm1911:

Originally Posted By nchapa:




The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.



i always thought they were about equal? what makes it weaker?



The .45LC is older and can't be loaded to as high a pressure (and hence velocity)




Wanta bet?

They use the Ruger Vaquero frame for the .500 cals for a reason.

SGatr15


PS ANd yes..wheel guns kick ass!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:44:55 PM EST
7 1/2" Super Redhawk. Thing is so big it is stupid. Though a .500S&W makes it look small. I like shooting it a lot. My friend has a 629 that is ported that hurts like hell to shoot. Kills the palm of your hand. My SRH is an absolute pleasure even with +p loads. Very stout handgun.

I also have a Vaquero in .45LC with a .45acp cylinder. Great gun. And in Rugers you can push .45lc loads as powerful as a .44mag.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 8:57:33 PM EST
I sold that popgun when I got a Casull. Proven killer on both ends.

That is the gun I DON'T regret selling.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:00:11 PM EST
Banned here before I could shoot one
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:01:58 PM EST
I have several Redhawks and a TC contender barrel in 44 mag. I should have never sold my desert eagle in that caliber. I once had 629, didnt like it ..... oh! I have a Dan Wesson also, almost forgot about it!
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:10:57 PM EST
I have a Blackhawk that I have only fired 12 times because the trigger guard smashes against my middle finger and I have significant pain after the 3rd shot. I also own a S&W (629 I believe) with a 4 in BBL that I have not fired - I recently acquired it from my father, but have not taken physical posession of it which is why I don't know the model and have not fired it.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:12:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 9:18:56 PM EST by ZEN]

Originally Posted By clean_cut:

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week




.44 magnum is for the pure joy of shooting, not for down and dirty business of self defense.




Don't take that lying down, 9mm sucks for self defense and it has been well documented.

I would much rather have one 44mag round strike my attacker than five or six 9mm rounds. So which is a better self defense round????? (and if you think I'm the only one who thinks so look up what Jeff Cooper thought about this subject)

44mag!



Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:31:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 9:36:34 PM EST by parshooter]

Originally Posted By Bucko:
I have a Blackhawk that I have only fired 12 times because the trigger guard smashes against my middle finger and I have significant pain after the 3rd shot.



Fired within an hour 40 (+/- a few) full-house rounds through a Blackhawk years ago. The shock-and-awe, noise, recoil and percussion literally made me sick to my stomach. Get queasy just thinking about it.


ETA: Have a .41 Mag, with a Leupy scope on it, identical to -Duke-Nukem-'s .44. Trigger job, jeweled trigger and hammer, smooth as silk. Awesome cannon.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:43:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By parshooter:
The shock-and-awe, noise, recoil and percussion literally made me sick to my stomach.


You should see the 9mm shooters at the range scatter. No offense, y'all.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 9:54:14 PM EST
I recently bought a 6.5" Model 29-2 in 98% with a DA comp package for $580 OTD. It feels SO GOOD....

S.O.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 10:15:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/15/2004 10:16:46 PM EST by Jason280]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By ajm1911:

Originally Posted By nchapa:




The .45LC is weaker. So the comparison is accurate.



i always thought they were about equal? what makes it weaker?



The .45LC is older and can't be loaded to as high a pressure (and hence velocity)




Wanta bet?

They use the Ruger Vaquero frame for the .500 cals for a reason.

SGatr15


PS ANd yes..wheel guns kick ass!



Most of the custom large caliber guns are built on Bisley and Super Blackhawk frames. Regardless, a properly loaded .45 Colt will beat the pants off a .44 Magnum any day. Actually, if Elmer Keith had better brass, we wouldn't even have the .44 Magnum, we'd have the .45 Magnum!

Here is my Super Redhawk .44...


Link Posted: 10/15/2004 10:17:34 PM EST
Virginian Dragoon. Stainless.
Link Posted: 10/15/2004 10:41:44 PM EST
Yeah, I got one.

Link Posted: 10/15/2004 10:50:02 PM EST
If you take case capacity times pressure full house .44 and .45colt are identical.

But once you load the same weight bullet into both the free case capacity in the .45 gives it an advantage of about 10%, because the larger diameter bullet is shorter.

Buffalobore loads some pretty extreme stuff for .45, reportedly with lilgun.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 12:07:45 AM EST
Oh, yeah!

629, 4" bbl. Love that gun. Took it to an indoor range once and had a lane next to a group of chickie snacks with a little something in .380.

Them: <bang> "Giggle, giggle". <bang> "Ooh! Giggle, giggle"

Me: <BOOM!>

Them: Let's just say they shrieked, dropped their gun on the tray, and hastily backed out of their lane.

Link Posted: 10/16/2004 12:09:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mmanwitgun:
Keep your six shot .44 mags, I'll keep my hi cap 9mms any day of the week



Careful now, I hear they leave a helluva bruise.

- BG
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 12:14:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By clean_cut:
This is an ode to the .44 magnum, a great cartridge. And nothing better to launch it with than a blued, Smith and Wesson model 29 (which I have). Mine has a 6" barrel. It is a beautiful gun. Evokes Dirty Harry and Taxi Driver. I traded a Glock 20 for it, and have not regretted it since.

Who here has a .44 magnum gun?



Henry Big Boy, Ruger Super Blackhawk, Ruger Vaquero
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 12:33:30 AM EST
I've got two. A 629 Mountain gun which I immediately replaced the grips on. Those Hogue grips left the backstrap exposed, which is a less-than-brilliant plan when firing full-power loads.


And I have this one--a Colt Kodiak. (Pictures shamelessly stolen off GunsAmerica, since I don't have any of my own).



Link Posted: 10/16/2004 12:43:25 AM EST
Super RedHawk, love going to bowling pin shoots and loading up with 5 handloads and one full load. Always gets a reaction from the crowd.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 1:25:22 AM EST
I have a 629 with 6 1/2 which is a tackdriver,I find I shoot it best with Houge grips. I have allways wanted one of the early 28's with the high polish blue finish.I also have a Lew Horton 629 with 3" barrel.I seem to
shoot this gun best with smooth wood with finger grove type grips.The short gun is still fairly heavy and although it kicks some it is useable.
I have found that a good 240 lead bullet with a max load of 2400 worked fine on my one and only hunt for
boar. I used a SWC bullet for the boar but also use a 240 round nose flat point as my marlin cowboy feeds
that style bullet better.Years ago when I started reloading I would try all types of powders and bullet weights,now I try to start with the old standbys and am pleased when I find a combo which works fine in more than one gun
I also have a Ruger super blackhawk which I think was about the second gun I ever bought.I could load it with hotter loads than the S&W but I am close to my comfort /flinching limit with my standard load and I don't much like the idea of haveing a hot ruger only load on my ammo shelf when I own S&W's.
I also load the same 240 lead bullet over Unique to get about 900fps-sort of a 44sp+p.This is a lot easier
for someone not used to a heavy pistol,and although it is a accurate load it isn't the tackdriver that the heavy load is.I think the commercial lead bullets are too hard for the lighter loads and don't seal as well.
I can see no advantage to useing jacketed bullets in the 44mag,in fact I have found shooting lead in a barrel that has some light copper in it or shooting copper in a barrel with trace lead in it to be a nightmare to clean. Most of the S&W have a pretty smooth bore and lead only will brush right out.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 1:37:44 AM EST
Vaquero with 5 1/2" barrel. Desert Eagle and a Marlin 1894S. All 3 get a workout periodically.
Love the 44's.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 2:41:06 AM EST
.44mag is overrated. Only the 300gn loads are impressive. the 210gn .41 mag is a better performer than the 180gn or 240gn ".44" Mag (which is actually only .429 mag) on big game animals.
Link Posted: 10/16/2004 2:55:57 AM EST
Smith and Wesson 629, 5" BBL. I was going to get the Ruger, as it is more practical. But I figured why kid myself ? I am not going to hunt with it. I am just going to target shoot with it, and drool over it. I liked the looks of the Smith and Wesson better, after all it is an American classic.

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