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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:28:07 AM EDT

https://youtu.be/8-Oytsl-tE0


Sig Elite 125 gr OTM fired from 8" AR15.com upper into calibrated 10% gelatin.

BB calibration: 594.1 fps, 3.2"

Impact velocity: 1,963 fps
Penetration: Greater than 14"
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:32:48 AM EDT
Cool, thanks for the test.

Pretty poor performance.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:33:34 AM EDT
Cool video, thanks for posting it.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:38:16 AM EDT
Good stuff, performed as I would expect from an OTM. Would love to see a 125gr or so Nosler ballistic tip (not sure if there are any factory offerings) since that is what I reload for my 300 BLK.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 11:40:25 AM EDT
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 12:03:45 PM EDT
Makes me want to go out and not buy one.
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Originally Posted By dmfl54:
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The 110gr Barnes bullet loads do much, much better. (I'm pretty sure this same guy does tests those as well). You'd be hard pressed to find anything in any caliber that would perform better in an 8" barrel.
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Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.
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Try shooting a plinking bullet out of a 30-30 SBR and let us know how it performs.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 12:25:23 PM EDT
Good vid OP!

Have you ever tested 125gr Hornady from that setup?
My daughter an I "tested" it on two does (yummy) in 2013, just would like to see how it does in gel.
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Originally Posted By makintrax73:



Try shooting a plinking bullet out of a 30-30 SBR and let us know how it performs.
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Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.



Try shooting a plinking bullet out of a 30-30 SBR and let us know how it performs.

Good point. And you are right--hunting bullet out of a deer gun is not a valid comparison. I stand corrected.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 12:32:56 PM EDT
.300 BLK = MEH.

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Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.
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Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.
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Originally Posted By Copperjacket:


Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.
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Originally Posted By Copperjacket:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.


Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.




300blk will shoot the same 110 grain as a 30 Carbine 300 to 400 fps faster out of 2" shorter barrel,
and the BC of the bullets aren't even in the same ball park.

And it's about 100 to 150fps slower than 7.62 with 125ish grain bullets.

So the reason it gets compared to 7.62 is simple. It actually IS a hell of a lot closer to 7.62 performance
than it is to 30 carbine performance.

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Originally Posted By makintrax73:




300blk will shoot the same 110 grain as a 30 Carbine 300 to 400 fps faster out of 2" shorter barrel,
and the BC of the bullets aren't even in the same ball park.

And it's about 100 to 150fps slower than 7.62 with 125ish grain bullets.

So the reason it gets compared to 7.62 is simple. It actually IS a hell of a lot closer to 7.62 performance
than it is to 30 carbine performance.

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Originally Posted By makintrax73:
Originally Posted By Copperjacket:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.


Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.




300blk will shoot the same 110 grain as a 30 Carbine 300 to 400 fps faster out of 2" shorter barrel,
and the BC of the bullets aren't even in the same ball park.

And it's about 100 to 150fps slower than 7.62 with 125ish grain bullets.

So the reason it gets compared to 7.62 is simple. It actually IS a hell of a lot closer to 7.62 performance
than it is to 30 carbine performance.



I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 12:55:45 PM EDT
Good video, thanks.
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I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
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Ideals vs reality, my friend. The 300 blk acolytes exaggerate its performance and then people buy them and are disappointed.

Happiness = Reality - Expectation.
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Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.

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I usually don't hate inanimate objects, but .300 Blk is one.

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I usually don't hate inanimate objects, but .300 Blk is one.

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Originally Posted By Stump70:
Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.



I usually don't hate inanimate objects, but .300 Blk is one.

Wait until the .277WLV catches on more lol
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So, name a round that works better out on an 8" barrel...if you can.
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Originally Posted By Copperjacket:

Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.
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Originally Posted By Copperjacket:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
Two reactions:

1. .300 Blackout performs near .30-30 or 7.62X39?--not in that video.

2. Still lethal.

Like I've said before, .300 BO is more akin to a .30 Carbine than the x39.

No, it isn't.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:07:30 PM EDT
.357 Magnum is @ +/- 90% Blackout performance. What did we achieve again?
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon:



So, name a round that works better out on an 8" barrel...if you can.
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon:
Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.




So, name a round that works better out on an 8" barrel...if you can.


5.56 50gr tsx
8" barrel on top half

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And..you have a 357 magnum upper? Becuase 357 mag will feed so well in a 30 round mag?

Think hard and you'll figure out what we achieved?
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Make it work on an ar platform and I think you have a very solid argument.

ETA...beat me by 30 seconds!
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Oh SNAP

Just kidding, you fail.
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Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:


So, name a round that works better out on an 8" barrel...if you can.
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Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:
Originally Posted By shblackdragon:
Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.




So, name a round that works better out on an 8" barrel...if you can.


5.56 50gr tsx
8" barrel on top half

How's that compared to a similar 300blk round? and..at distance? (at work, or I'd look it up)

556 loses huge muzzle energy at 8", and considerable velocity. Effective range would have to suffer greatly.

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I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
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I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.

Then I can load up those 110gr. and 125gr. hunting bullets and have a nice deer rifle. Those hunting rounds are about 37 cents a round, or about $7.40/box of 20. What's not to love?

Reloading makes me love the Blackout.
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Originally Posted By shblackdragon:

How's that compared to a similar 300blk round? and..at distance? (at work, or I'd look it up)

556 loses huge muzzle energy at 8", and considerable velocity. Effective range would have to suffer greatly.

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Energy isn't the best indicator terminal performance. You can have two rounds with identical KE, one will be devastating and the other pretty minimal.

Velocity is pretty important for temporary cavitation. The 300BLK in the video above has a somewhat marginal velocity. The 5.56 50gr is going ~2650 FPS.

Out of 8" barrels, they're both short range (100 yard or so) guns, really.

Expansion is just a more reliable method of getting good temporary cavity effects than yaw.

As mentioned above, the TSX rounds for 300blk are great as well.
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Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:
Cool, thanks for the test.

Pretty poor performance.
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Bear in mind this is probably not intended to expand or fragment and is not marketed for that. It does serve well to indicate how much more hate is in a rifle FMJ, compared to even the best pistol JHP.
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Originally Posted By TX_Critter:
Good stuff, performed as I would expect from an OTM. Would love to see a 125gr or so Nosler ballistic tip (not sure if there are any factory offerings) since that is what I reload for my 300 BLK.
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I'm always looking for reasonably priced .300 BLK loads locally. If I see it, I'll test it.
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Originally Posted By makintrax73:



300blk will shoot the same 110 grain as a 30 Carbine 300 to 400 fps faster out of 2" shorter barrel,
and the BC of the bullets aren't even in the same ball park.

And it's about 100 to 150fps slower than 7.62 with 125ish grain bullets.

So the reason it gets compared to 7.62 is simple. It actually IS a hell of a lot closer to 7.62 performance
than it is to 30 carbine performance.

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Good point. People tend to conflate ".300 BLK is almost like 7.62x39mm" with ".300 BLK is exactly the same as 7.62x39mm".

.300 BLK does fall short of the velocity that 7.62x39mm can produce, but not by a lot. It seems to shine at about 110 gr, whereas 7.62x39mm really struts at about 125 gr.
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Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Wait until the .277WLV catches on more lol
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Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By Stump70:
Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.



I usually don't hate inanimate objects, but .300 Blk is one.

Wait until the .277WLV catches on more lol


Yeah, .277 Wolverine doesn't have the Freedom Group shoving it down our throats.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 2:53:07 PM EDT
That's why I use 110 varmageddon for my plinking round in 300blk. I can reload them for around 30 cents a round and they still give me good performance if needed. I use the barnes 110 for hd/hunting and have used hornady 125 sst in the past to take deer. I just loaded up a bunch of 125 nosler bts and a few 125 speer tnt, which both look promising out of a 9 inch barrel.
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.300 BLK does fall short of the velocity that 7.62x39mm can produce, but not by a lot. It seems to shine at about 110 gr, whereas 7.62x39mm really struts at about 125 gr.
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Does 7.62X39 do as well out of an 8" barrel? I'm sure someone has done the testing.
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:


Yeah, .277 Wolverine doesn't have the Freedom Group shoving it down our throats.
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Originally Posted By 10mm_:
Originally Posted By Stump70:
Originally Posted By bigshooter81:
.300 BLK = MEH.



I usually don't hate inanimate objects, but .300 Blk is one.

Wait until the .277WLV catches on more lol


Yeah, .277 Wolverine doesn't have the Freedom Group shoving it down our throats.
I've got the perfect slogan:

"If you think 6.8SPC sucks, just WAIT until you see .277WLV!!!"
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Originally Posted By Coltsfan:
That's why I use 110 varmageddon for my plinking round in 300blk. I can reload them for around 30 cents a round and they still give me good performance if needed. I use the barnes 110 for hd/hunting and have used hornady 125 sst in the past to take deer. I just loaded up a bunch of 125 nosler bts and a few 125 speer tnt, which both look promising out of a 9 inch barrel.
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I've debated buying them....do you have a review? You talking about the black rounds from Noveske, right?
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Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.

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Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.


Let's not ignore the opportunity cost of doing that work.
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Let's not ignore the opportunity cost of doing that work.
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.


Let's not ignore the opportunity cost of doing that work.


Which is substantial, since this is Arfcom and everyone hear makes at least $750 an hour.
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Which is substantial, since this is Arfcom and everyone hear makes at least $750 an hour.
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.


Let's not ignore the opportunity cost of doing that work.


Which is substantial, since this is Arfcom and everyone hear makes at least $750 an hour.
rost
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Does 7.62X39 do as well out of an 8" barrel? I'm sure someone has done the testing.
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:


.300 BLK does fall short of the velocity that 7.62x39mm can produce, but not by a lot. It seems to shine at about 110 gr, whereas 7.62x39mm really struts at about 125 gr.


Does 7.62X39 do as well out of an 8" barrel? I'm sure someone has done the testing.


I don't have access to an 8" barrel, but 7.62x39mm does substantially better from a 10.5" barrel than .300 BLK does from an 8" barrel, FWIW.



https://youtu.be/6IvIpwDGa_s

Winchester 120 gr PDX1 fired from 10.5" Zastava M92 PAP

Impact velocity: 2,182 fps
Penetration: 12.9"
Retained weight: 111.4 gr
Max expansion: 1.048"
Min expansion: 0.193"





https://youtu.be/fkQ566gw_pM

122 gr Wolf HP fired from 10.5" barrel Zastava M92 PAP

Impact velocity: 2,206 fps
Penetration: N/A
Retained weight: 108.1 gr
Max expansion: 0.921"
Min expansion: 0.478"
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Which is substantial, since this is Arfcom and everyone hear makes at least $750 an hour.
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Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
I never quite understood the hate for the 300BLK. The argument of pistol versus carbine has always ragged over home defense. Now you have a cartridge that will give 2x the power of a .40 out of a 8" barrel that uses powder very efficiently and has a capacity of 30 rounds. I'm having a hard time seeing why folks crap all over the round...the only down side I see is cost, but if you catch a sale, it's not all THAT bad.
I shoot .300 Blackout precisely due to cost--LOW cost. Using cast/powder coated bullets (I cast myself) I can shoot it for about 7 cents a round. That's $1.40 per box of 20.


Let's not ignore the opportunity cost of doing that work.

Which is substantial, since this is Arfcom and everyone hear makes at least $750 an hour.

Even if you only make $50 an hour, the cost is going to come out a bit above 7 cents a round.
Link Posted: 4/18/2016 3:40:25 PM EDT
Someone should import an shitton of those hp Wolf bullets for our American 30 cal short.
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I like it. Barnes black tips for deer hunting and 220 grain subs for home defense with the AAC can
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I have two 300blk out guns...

A 8inch that I use for home defense with a suppressor...125grain Nosler BT supers

A 16 inch gun for hogs and dear with a 110 barnes Tac-Tx (I have not chrono graphed these but the 125 noslers were 2315FPS average out of this gun)

Not my video.


I also shoot 220 grain subs out of the 8 inch for my night time plinking needs..
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Bear in mind this is probably not intended to expand or fragment and is not marketed for that. It does serve well to indicate how much more hate is in a rifle FMJ, compared to even the best pistol JHP.
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Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:
Cool, thanks for the test.

Pretty poor performance.


Bear in mind this is probably not intended to expand or fragment and is not marketed for that. It does serve well to indicate how much more hate is in a rifle FMJ, compared to even the best pistol JHP.


This is a great takeaway from the test results. If a person feels a G19 with 147 HST is "adequate" for personal defense, then mediocre rifle rounds from short barrels are also "adequate".

I'm not a .300 acolyte, and believe a rifle cartridge should be able to outshine a pistol, but I have not doubt the .300 could be decisive at ranges of "across my living room".
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This is a great takeaway from the test results. If a person feels a G19 with 147 HST is "adequate" for personal defense, then mediocre rifle rounds from short barrels are also "adequate".

I'm not a .300 acolyte, and believe a rifle cartridge should be able to outshine a pistol, but I have not doubt the .300 could be decisive at ranges of "across my living room".
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Originally Posted By bluefalcon:
Originally Posted By FlatDarkEarf:
Cool, thanks for the test.

Pretty poor performance.


Bear in mind this is probably not intended to expand or fragment and is not marketed for that. It does serve well to indicate how much more hate is in a rifle FMJ, compared to even the best pistol JHP.


This is a great takeaway from the test results. If a person feels a G19 with 147 HST is "adequate" for personal defense, then mediocre rifle rounds from short barrels are also "adequate".

I'm not a .300 acolyte, and believe a rifle cartridge should be able to outshine a pistol, but I have not doubt the .300 could be decisive at ranges of "across my living room".

Not to mention it is way way easier and faster under stress to accurately shoot a 8inch AR then it is a standard handgun for most people.
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Originally Posted By postban:
Good vid OP!

Have you ever tested 125gr Hornady from that setup?
My daughter an I "tested" it on two does (yummy) in 2013, just would like to see how it does in gel.
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I've been thinking about filling doe tags with an 8.5" .300 SBR with Barnes 110's this fall. Like from a tree stand at less than 50 yards. I just hate the thought not having a dead deer within 75 yards or so.
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Bear in mind, that is atypical performance for Russian hollow point rifle bullets. I only included it because it's one of the few short barrel 7.62x39mm tests I have. I'd prefer a soft point for any cheap Russian rifle bullet.
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Yeah, I was going to post that it appears similar to 357M or 10mm.

I think Oly makes a 10mm upper. I'd kind of like a 10mm AR SBR upper that uses Glock mags. Then I'd be running ammo I can use in the rifle and pistols.

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Originally Posted By BURN:
I have two 300blk out guns...

A 8inch that I use for home defense with a suppressor...125grain Nosler BT supers

A 16 inch gun for hogs and dear with a 110 barnes Tac-Tx (I have not chrono graphed these but the 125 noslers were 2315FPS average out of this gun)

Not my video.
http://youtu.be/nsRUfA1_Alw

I also shoot 220 grain subs out of the 8 inch for my night time plinking needs..
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lies.. thats vid is all lies.. the 300 sux. is just that. a shitty round that needs forgotten.
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