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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:25:56 AM EST
I know VA is one of them. 22-250 and 223 are not legal for deer but .380 and .25acp are. Seems like XX muzzle energy and above would make more sense. What other states have this law?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:26:43 AM EST
.24 in CO.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:27:28 AM EST
That's strange, 22-250 will take down every deer in these parts.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:28:02 AM EST
Not here. You can hunt bear with a .22 Short if you are so retarded.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:28:04 AM EST
At least 1000 ft lbs energy at the muzzle.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:29:32 AM EST
We used to be, but GTG a few years back.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:29:42 AM EST
Unless there has been some change recently, it's .24 here.  Pretty antiquated.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:30:24 AM EST
WI used to have muzzle energy for handguns.  Something like 44 mag, 41 mag, 357 mag, OR handgun with 1000 ft lb muzzle energy.  Now any handgun .22+ with a 5.5" barrel is legal

I think caliber restrictions for hunting is nonsensical.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:31:39 AM EST
I believe Georgia does as well.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:32:06 AM EST
It's a fudd law.

5.56 will hammer eastern whitetail.

BTW, VA also has a muzzle energy minimum for deer/bear.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:33:44 AM EST
I wonder how often it has been enforced. I know of one VA resident who has used a Rem 700 in .222 most of his life, but he is on private property.
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.24 in CO.
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Also a minimum bullet weight of 85 grains and a minimum energy of 1000 ft. Lbs. at 100 yards.
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Originally Posted By CurraheeBeer:
I believe Georgia does as well.
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It does not.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:37:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bashby:
I know VA is one of them. 22-250 and 223 are not legal for deer but .380 and .25acp are. Seems like XX muzzle energy and above would make more sense. What other states have this law?
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No, 380 and 25 aren't legal.


Pistols and revolvers are lawful for deer and bear hunting only in those counties where hunting deer and bear with rifles is lawful. Cartridges used must be .23 caliber or larger and have a manufacturer’s rating of 350 footpounds muzzle energy or more.
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:38:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bashby:
I know VA is one of them. 22-250 and 223 are not legal for deer but .380 and .25acp are. Seems like XX muzzle energy and above would make more sense. What other states have this law?
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KS used to.  I joked w/ one of the guys in the range that my 220 Swift w/ Barnes X bullets wasn't legal, but I could get a 16" barrel for my Contender in 25 ACP and it would have been legal.   He didn't like my idea.  
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:41:26 AM EST
In Idaho we can hunt all big game with anything but rimfire and full-auto
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:41:47 AM EST
I've killed a pretty good stack of deer with a .223 in Georgia (53gr barnes) Pistol used to be regulated by Ft lbs but that got too hard to quantify so now any centerfire handgun over .22 is good to go.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:48:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bashby:
I know VA is one of them. 22-250 and 223 are not legal for deer but .380 and .25acp are. Seems like XX muzzle energy and above would make more sense. What other states have this law?
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That particular law is why I now own a 6.8 SPC upper. Probably add a 6.5 Grendel upper in to the mix as well.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:50:13 AM EST
Ohio's laws are slightly less retarded than before, now that we're allows a list of approved "pistol caliber carbine" rounds, including 45-70, .50-90, and .444 marlin. 

Under the old system, straight walled pistol cartridges of .357" or bigger diameter out of a 5" barrel was it, other than shotgun/muzzleloaders.  

I believe that the wimpiest legal pistol round would be 9x18mm, since it has a big enough bullet.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:51:13 AM EST
Eh, just use your .30 or 7.62 whatever cal, and not worry about it. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:52:31 AM EST
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No, 380 and 25 aren't legal.

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Originally Posted By Bashby:
I know VA is one of them. 22-250 and 223 are not legal for deer but .380 and .25acp are. Seems like XX muzzle energy and above would make more sense. What other states have this law?


No, 380 and 25 aren't legal.


Pistols and revolvers are lawful for deer and bear hunting only in those counties where hunting deer and bear with rifles is lawful. Cartridges used must be .23 caliber or larger and (should be or)have a manufacturer’s rating of 350 footpounds muzzle energy or more.
Thanks for clarifying. They should change the and to or.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:54:33 AM EST
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I've killed 200+ lb deer with 5.56 no problem. It's at least as effective as the .30-30 which has probably killed more deer than any other cartridge.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:54:37 AM EST
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That particular law is why I now own a 6.8 SPC upper. Probably add a 6.5 Grendel upper in to the mix as well.
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Have you ever had someone ask the caliber of your AR?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:59:30 AM EST
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Have you ever had someone ask the caliber of your AR?
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer:


That particular law is why I now own a 6.8 SPC upper. Probably add a 6.5 Grendel upper in to the mix as well.
Have you ever had someone ask the caliber of your AR?
Never. I only hunt on private land these days, but even the couple of years I hunted public land I had zero interactions with DGIF officials.

Frankly, I'm certain I could hunt quite happily and effectively with a .223 and no one would be wiser.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:03:47 PM EST
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Never. I only hunt on private land these days, but even the couple of years I hunted public land I had zero interactions with DGIF officials.

Frankly, I'm certain I could hunt quite happily and effectively with a .223 and no one would be wiser.
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Thats what i was thinking. I wonder what the penalty would be if you did get caught? Fine or confiscation?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:05:20 PM EST
No caliber minimums for deer, but Elk is 27 cal or larger with a 130gr or larger bullet.

So 300 Blk is legal, but .260 Rem or even .257 Weatherby and .264 Win Mag is not.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:05:45 PM EST
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Thats what i was thinking. I wonder what the penalty would be if you did get caught? Fine or confiscation?
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Never. I only hunt on private land these days, but even the couple of years I hunted public land I had zero interactions with DGIF officials.

Frankly, I'm certain I could hunt quite happily and effectively with a .223 and no one would be wiser.
Thats what i was thinking. I wonder what the penalty would be if you did get caught? Fine or confiscation?
Not sure. Probably a summons at a minimum. Due to the nature of my job any sort of criminal charges, even relatively minor ones, could have an extremely negative impact, so I make sure to dot my i's and cross my t's.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:07:37 PM EST
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That particular law is why I now own a 6.8 SPC upper. Probably add a 6.5 Grendel upper in to the mix as well.
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300 Blk for me. I wanted to be able to hunt deer with an AR. So I built one.

I've had a lot of friends hunt deer with a 22-250.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:15:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
I've killed 200+ lb dear with 5.56 no problem. It's at least as effective as the .30-30 which has probably killed more deer than any other cartridge.
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Those poor dears. Do you shoot all your loved ones once they go over 200lbs?
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Those poor dears. Do you shoot all your loved ones once they go over 200lbs?
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I've killed 200+ lb dear with 5.56 no problem. It's at least as effective as the .30-30 which has probably killed more deer than any other cartridge.
Those poor dears. Do you shoot all your loved ones once they go over 200lbs?
No, but sometimes I'd like to shoot autocorrect.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:22:31 PM EST
.24 in WA
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ANY centerfire cartridge in PA.
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Originally Posted By W_E_G:
It's a fudd law.

5.56 will hammer eastern whitetail.

BTW, VA also has a muzzle energy minimum for deer/bear.
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No.

I have hunted on several Texas ranches that will not allow any center fire rifle caliber under .24 caliber.
It has zero to do with your black rifle.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:31:09 PM EST
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In Idaho we can hunt all big game with anything but rimfire and full-auto
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We also can't use a rifle that weighs more than 16pounds with scope,sling and accessories. So most .50bmg rifles are a no go too
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:35:45 PM EST
I may have shot a deer long ago, on private property in VA, with a Steyr Mannlicher in .222 Magnum.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:37:26 PM EST
I think my state just has to be a centerfire round honestly

I hunted deer with a AR before
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We also can't use a rifle that weighs more than 16pounds with scope,sling and accessories. So most .50bmg rifles are a no go too
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So I'll have to leave the semi 1919A4 at home?

Shame, I was looking forward to a new season for crew-served weapons.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 12:38:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kuraki:
WI used to have muzzle energy for handguns.  Something like 44 mag, 41 mag, 357 mag, OR handgun with 1000 ft lb muzzle energy.  Now any handgun .22+ with a 5.5" barrel is legal

I think caliber restrictions for hunting is nonsensical.
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Yes, and for deer/bear I think it says "centerfire, 22 caliber or larger". With all the new big handgun calibers out they didn't want to research every new round's ballistics. The 5.5" law is easy for a warden to check in the field. Just drop a standard BIC pen down the muzzle of an unloaded handgun. If the pen disappears, it's legal.
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