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Posted: 1/1/2016 3:52:59 PM EDT
When will Geissele counter LaRue's trigger deal?
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Challenge.... accepted...?
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 3:54:23 PM EDT
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 3:55:24 PM EDT
I got the G2S for near the same price I believe, around $125.  Haven't installed it yet.  Gotta find it, actually.  

Waiting to receive my $125 LaRue trigger.  
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 3:57:04 PM EDT
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This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
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This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
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Originally Posted By Undefined:

When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.




This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
Because competition?

 
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 3:58:40 PM EDT
Don't underestimate LaRue. The guy wants his products on everyone's firearms. And he makes nice stuff.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:00:01 PM EDT
As a long time Chip McCormick trigger fan, I wouldn't want Geissele to drop their prices for any reason.
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This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
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When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.


This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?

You do hurt the brand. Geissele has earned my business but I would mind a good deal to start the new year.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:02:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HighLighter:
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They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.
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Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Because competition?  
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Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.


This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
Because competition?  


He already has a trigger that competes in this price category often with $115-125 sale pricing regularly.
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Meh. I'm buying the LaRue MBT



 
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:04:09 PM EDT
Isn't ALG Geisselle's budget-friendly triggers?
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Originally Posted By Atcforrest:
They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.

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Originally Posted By HighLighter:

When will Geissele counter LaRue's trigger deal?

They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.

Maybe because he still has inventory to unload?

 
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Originally Posted By Atcforrest:
They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.

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Originally Posted By Atcforrest:



Originally Posted By HighLighter:

When will Geissele counter LaRue's trigger deal?

They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.







 
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Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:


This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?
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When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.


This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?


And that could never ever possibly change
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:07:56 PM EDT
G, $100, Ha!
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:08:14 PM EDT
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Picked up a Geissele G2S on Cyber Monday from Geissele for $115 Shipped / No Tax
Extremely happy for a SHTF / Eveyday rifle.
Clean / Light  pull 1st stage and extremely clean break 2nd Stage.
Replaced a Windham Weaponry OEM trigger which was very good...but the
Geissele is VERY,VERY,VERY good
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And that could never ever possibly change
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Originally Posted By Hornet22:
Originally Posted By Jagrmaister:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.


This.  Why sell yourself short if you're already established as the gold standard?


And that could never ever possibly change


It can and most likely will at some point as competition breeds innovation, but for now I doubt Geissele is concerned enough to just start dropping his pants on his product because LaRue sold a metric shit ton of his triggers over one weekend.  That was the point.  

I ordered a LaRue and own 3 Geisseles for the record.  If ML's product is the second coming of Christ I'm all for it.
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Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.

 



At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.



Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.
Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.
Time tells all
Good honest competition is good for everyone.
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Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.

Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.



Good honest competition is good for everyone.
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Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:



Originally Posted By jaqufrost:


Originally Posted By Undefined:

When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  



At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.







Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.

Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.



Good honest competition is good for everyone.
It's made out of S7 tool steel.  It's a pretty fair bet that they won't wear out.

 
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:19:36 PM EDT
G2S was $115.
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It's made out of S7 tool steel.  It's a pretty fair bet that they won't wear out.  
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Originally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.



Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.
Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.

Good honest competition is good for everyone.
It's made out of S7 tool steel.  It's a pretty fair bet that they won't wear out.  


Time tells all.

Both Companies have great customer service & have owners that will actually get on the phone and talk to their
customers...can't ask for more then that.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:22:38 PM EDT
Love my SD3G trigger but I wouldn't pay that much again.
It's not that I'm not happy with it but $125 for a Larue will get the nod.
      My cash flow is making me have to shop more carefully.    Larue made in USA for a price I can afford checks all the boxes
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Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.

Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.

Time tells all

Good honest competition is good for everyone.
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Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:



Originally Posted By jaqufrost:


Originally Posted By Undefined:

When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  



At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.







Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.

Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.

Time tells all

Good honest competition is good for everyone.
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.



I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.l
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.



Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.
Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.
Time tells all
Good honest competition is good for everyone.
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.l


You have me wanting to get my finger on a MBT.. Both companies have reputations to uphold.
Like I said  earlier...Competition is good for everyone
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.



Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.
Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.
Time tells all
Good honest competition is good for everyone.
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.


This YouTube reviewer mentions somewhat sharp edges on the MBT, no issues with yours?
Jump to 3:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22wNdgFxXno

I have a SSA and SSA-E, how much wider is the MBT trigger?
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Originally Posted By Atcforrest:




They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.
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Originally Posted By Atcforrest:
Originally Posted By HighLighter:
When will Geissele counter LaRue's trigger deal?




They don't need to. They are having no problems selling their triggers at the current price point. When a product is selling at its current price point, there's no reason to change that price point. Generally, when a manufacturer lowers the price point on a product, it is because they were having trouble moving that product in the first place. Contrary to ML's arrogant boasting, I suspect his trigger is not doing as well as he had hoped. If the trigger were truly as good as he claimed, why does he still sell the Geissele triggers on his site? Seems a bit odd to personally bash a product that you currently sell on your website.


I suspect the motive is something entirely different... Mark started making his own magazines to eliminate "outsourcing" and supply problems, and I suspect that was the same reason he made his own triggers.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.

Thats what i figured. I have a ssae and was debating on buy a g2s or another ssae. I passed on all the black friday deals. Mark dropped the price on the mbt so i ordered one. If it is on par with the ssa as everyone says ill buy more in the future. Now if the ssae's drop to $125 or $150 ill buy more ssae. I went with a mbt because it is a better deal.
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Not exactly... ALG triggers are basically "milspec type" single stage stock triggers made to a more consistent trigger pull.

A lot of "standard" lower parts kit triggers are pretty crappy.  The ALGs are the same design but made to better specs.

Geissele and LaRue are two stage "match style" triggers.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 4:57:43 PM EDT
Give it time and Geissele will began to price triggers lower.  I want a 3G trigger bad and wish the price would come down.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 5:11:02 PM EDT
I would rather spend the extra money for the SSA-E over the G2S triggers that I bought for $108.00 from AIM. It is that good and I have a growing collection of them. Looking forward to trying an MBT when it arrives.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 5:16:45 PM EDT
This thread again?
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 5:24:30 PM EDT
Geissele may not have a bottom of the barrel price but I'd rather deal with a company not known for braggadocio.  
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Give it time and Geissele will began to price triggers lower.  I want a 3G trigger bad and wish the price would come down.
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Primary arms has them 20% off.Buy it now before the sale ends.
Link Posted: 1/1/2016 5:38:10 PM EDT
Everyone said Colt didn't need to lower their prices either.  
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I hope you dont enter any of the giveaways that braggart has here for our members.
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This YouTube reviewer mentions somewhat sharp edges on the MBT, no issues with yours?

Jump to 3:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22wNdgFxXno



I have a SSA and SSA-E, how much wider is the MBT trigger?

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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:


Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:


Originally Posted By jaqufrost:


Originally Posted By Undefined:

When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  



At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.







Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.

Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.

Time tells all

Good honest competition is good for everyone.
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.



I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.





This YouTube reviewer mentions somewhat sharp edges on the MBT, no issues with yours?

Jump to 3:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22wNdgFxXno



I have a SSA and SSA-E, how much wider is the MBT trigger?

I don't notice it.  The MBT is fairly wide, right around .30" wide.  You do have to remove the safety to install them.

 
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I hope you dont enter any of the giveaways that braggart has here for our members.
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Geissele may not have a bottom of the barrel price but I'd rather deal with a company not known for braggadocio.  

I hope you dont enter any of the giveaways that braggart has here for our members.

Never have, never will.
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I don't notice it.  The MBT is fairly wide, right around .30" wide.  You do have to remove the safety to install them.  
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.


This YouTube reviewer mentions somewhat sharp edges on the MBT, no issues with yours?
Jump to 3:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22wNdgFxXno

I have a SSA and SSA-E, how much wider is the MBT trigger?
I don't notice it.  The MBT is fairly wide, right around .30" wide.  You do have to remove the safety to install them.  


Thanks.
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I got a black friday deal for an ssa $145.......non issue for me at least.  Let LaRue keep their place in the sub $130 trigger market.
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Link Posted: 1/1/2016 6:22:27 PM EDT
I have Geissele triggers in two of my AR's.  A G2S in one, and a SSA in the other.

At $100 I'd be in for two G2S's right now.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By JohnNYPD:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
When you make the best product on the market, you don't need to participate in a price war.
Geissele is the standard, it doesn't mean they will stay the standard forever.  

At $125 the MBT is a much better deal than an SSA or G2S.



Geissele has been around the block a few years when it comes to durability & reliability.
Time will tell if MBT stands the test of time and rounds down range.
Time tells all
Good honest competition is good for everyone.
There was a time when Geissele was new to triggers as well.  I'm not really worried about the S7 MBT wearing out. They've got 145,000 test cycles on one and still running. They also have a reputation to uphold.

I've got a few Geissele's and a few MBT's. I'll take the MBT over an SSA every time.


Good for you.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:30:29 AM EDT
I have both.  LT's trigger group is decent, but it's not a G yet.   I'll stick with the proven product for now.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:34:11 AM EDT
When Geissele had their blemish sale I picked up 3 SSAs for $100 each
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