The video only covers about half of the total interview. Here is a transcript of the rest of the interview starting where the video lets off.
MILLER: The only reason you are doing it is because you are standing way over there in Herald Square.
MATTHEWS: Senator, Senator, can I speak softly to you? I would really like you to...
MILLER: What? No, no, no, because you won‘t give me a chance to answer. You ask these questions and then you just talk over what I am trying to answer, just like you did that woman the other day.
MATTHEWS: Well, Senator...
MILLER: I don‘t know why I even came on this program.
MATTHEWS: Well, I am glad you did.
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you this about John Kerry‘s war record.
MILLER: Well, are you going to shut up after you ask me?
MILLER: Or are you going to give me a chance to answer it?
MATTHEWS: Yes, sir.
MATTHEWS: I am going to give you a chance to answer.
You used very strong words tonight about the Democratic candidate, much stronger than you are using with me. And they will be remembered a lot longer than anything you say to me now. So I am not really worried about what you say now, except that this country was promised unity after the last election by the president that you are supporting. And he urged the country to come together. Do you think you helped that cause tonight?
MILLER: I think I helped the cause of trying to tell the American people why John Kerry is unfit for the presidency and why we need to keep George W. Bush in as the president, because it‘s the way that we can keep this nation more secure and my family more safe.
MATTHEWS: Did I ask you about your role in the Democratic Party, because you have caused such a hit tonight, because you are a man of the Democratic Party? Long before this election, you had to watch as a Southern conservative the nomination by your party of people like George McGovern, Fritz Mondale, Jimmy Carter, liberal after liberal after liberal, including Mike Dukakis, perhaps the most liberal of them all. What caused you to cross the aisle tonight?
MILLER: By coming to Washington and seeing firsthand what a mess it is and how far out the Senate Democrats are.
They are off the chart as far as being with the mainstream of America. I think the straw that broke the camel‘s back was the homeland security measure, when, time after time, John Kerry and the Democrats put collective bargaining above homeland security. That did it for me.
MATTHEWS: Well, that did it for Max Cleland as well, didn‘t it?
MILLER: It surely did. And probably Jean Carnahan.
And nobody is to blame, except—well, they are to blame because they voted that way. But who is really to blame is Tom Daschle for insisting that they do it 11 times over a four-months period. It was dumb.
MATTHEWS: And, well, you could argue that it was politically dumb of Max Cleland to support the labor unions in Georgia against what looked like the national interests. My question is, is it good for America to impugn that vote as a vote against the security of this country?
MILLER: That vote was not impugned. He did not get defeated because of that ad that you like to talk about. You can‘t vote with Tom Daschle 85 percent of the time and be expected to be able to be reelected in Georgia. You know that much about Georgia and the South.
MATTHEWS: Well, sir, I also know the—and I completely agree with the need to get reelected as a statesman. Jefferson said the first order of a statesman was to get elected.
I am just wondering if you think tonight‘s speech and advertisements that show people like Max Cleland standing next to Saddam Hussein are helping bring this country together?
MILLER: That didn‘t have anything to do with Max Cleland‘s defeat.
We have already—we have already beat that dog to death.
MATTHEWS: Well, maybe the war did that, too.
But thank you very much for coming here tonight. I hope we can have a more civil conversation in closer terms. I would love you to come tonight. In fact, you can meet with Joe Scarborough, who will probably be nicer to you.
MATTHEWS: But we will both try to get the truth out of the conversation.
And I feel bad that you are upset with me, Senator. I have never had this kind of a fight with you before.
MILLER: I know it.
MATTHEWS: I think you misheard me. But please come over tomorrow night. We‘ve got a convention ending.
And, by the way, you will help our ratings tremendously if you come over tomorrow night, because everybody thinks you are going to beat me up.
MATTHEWS: But since somebody tried to do that last night, I don‘t think it‘s going to be a surprise.
WATTS: Hey, Chris, can I say
MATTHEWS: J.C. Watts wants to talk to you, Senator.
MILLER: All right.
WATTS: Hey, Senator, this is J.C. Watts.
MILLER: Hey, J.C.
WATTS: You can put your feet under my dinner table any day of the week.
MILLER: Thank you. Thank you.
MATTHEWS: Well, I guess everybody loves the senator.
MILLER: Good to be with you.
MATTHEWS: Hey, it‘s great having you on. Let‘s be friends. Let‘s be friends.
MILLER: See you later.
MATTHEWS: Thank you.
Well, that was unexpected turn of events.