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Posted: 8/14/2022 5:39:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: zegermanznew]
Update 10/21 - TLDR - This started as me trying to re-home my dog, but I have ended up keeping him in the end. I have a great deal of gratitude for some of the membership here. You know who you are - some really, truly, great people I have been fortunate enough to interact with and meet. This has been a humbling experience and likely will continue to be for the rest of Zekes life, but I owe thanks to a handful of guys for helping me get this far.

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Hello, all,

I have to re-home or euthanize Zeke. His euthanasia date is August 25, this is a last ditch effort to see if anyone would like to give him a second chance. This is destroying me.

He CAN NOT go to a home with kids. He is fine with other dogs, has met and socialized with hundreds and never an issue. Never met a cat so I don’t know. He DOES NOT want anything to do with kids. NO KIDS.

Zeke has been a companion to me for his 6 years, we have thousands of hours training. I don’t even know where to begin, every basic command, many advanced commands, hell, if you have mulch or woods he wont even poop on your grass. Sit, stand, stay, heel, finish, stand-stay, lay, up, down, off, upstairs, downstairs, garage, truck, inside, outside, he knows them all. Has the basics in German, bliben, zeets, plotz etc. We dont have a fence and he doesn’t leave our 2 acre yard. AKC certified, no health issues.

Trouble started when our first born son started getting mobile a year ago. Zeke showed signs of aggression whenever the kiddo would crawl toward him. I reluctantly made a feeble attempt to re-home him then, but instead we hit some more professional training real hard in hopes we could work it out of him, and it seemed to as we had no issues over the year.

We welcomed our second son a month ago and things have been going smooth, but this morning Zeke turned on me out of nowhere. The newborn was laying on the ground and Zeke was across the room lightly growling at him. When I moved toward Zeke to herd him out of the room he turned on me and showed teeth. I got positive control of his collar with my left hand but when we got to the door I moved my right hand to open the door infront of him and he took his shot at my hand . No thrashing etc but a few deep puncture wounds. It was largely unprovoked and I have no trust for him being in the house with my kids/wife. I hate it but he has to go. Kids make him incredibly uncomfortable.

He’s beautiful, super smart, incredibly obedient, no wander lust. Our third 1 hour session with our trainer he couldn’t even believe how good he is. Said he could win amateur competitions with him right then as he was, with no treats or anything. Zeke will work hard literally out of respect. He’s  the perfect dog in almost every way, he just isn’t affectionate and HATES kids.

I don’t know what else to say. If you’re interested please ask questions and Ill answer. I can’t even look at him without coming to tears knowing what lies ahead for him. He’s been my best friend.

Ill get some current pics up tonight when the kids get to bed.











Here he is today.



VP
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:41:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:42:40 PM EST
[#2]
I'm sorry OP.
That sounds like a terrible situation and you've tried your best to make it right.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:43:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:


Sorry bro


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Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:44:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: BigSky171] [#4]
You're making the right call.  

Good luck sir!
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:45:54 PM EST
[#5]
I wish I could take him, but unfortunately would not be a good fit. I wish you the best of luck, as it is not an easy decision.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:45:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: Paul] [#6]
Bump for Zeke.

Sorry to hear of his problem.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:48:56 PM EST
[#7]
free bumpski.

hope someone can take him for ya.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:48:57 PM EST
[#8]
It maybe too late to try some of these options

https://journeydogtraining.com/dog-is-aggressive-towards-children/
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:49:17 PM EST
[#9]
Can you not take him to a no kill rescue? A quick google shows several in New England.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:49:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: NVCapCop] [#10]
He could be litter mates with my 6 y.o. girl GERMAN SHEPHERD (surrendered twice before we rescued her.)
We chose a female with a less aggressive nature.

Sorry for your situation. Hope he finds a good home. He'll be as heartbroken as you will.


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Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:50:21 PM EST
[#11]
Why are you gonna euthanize him? Take him to a rescue
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:50:36 PM EST
[#12]
Have you tried kicking his ass for being aggressive towards your kids? Training ain't the answer here. Dog speak is.

Nor is setting up a kill date before asking someone to take him.

You took on a responsibility.  

Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:52:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:52:40 PM EST
[#14]
There are few people who could properly take the aggression out of him.  And you wouldn't like the way they do it.

I'm sorry man.  It's not going to be possible to send him somewhere where he never interacts with kids.  He bit you too.  Someone who he knows and trusts.

I'm sorry, this is a difficult and terrible situation.  It sounds like you've done everything you can for him and he's still aggressively acting out.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:54:06 PM EST
[#15]
Breaks my heart. Good Luck I hope someone can adopt him.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:56:23 PM EST
[#16]
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:56:53 PM EST
[#17]
We had to re-home our GS a few years ago for the exact same reason. Broke my heart and my wife still cries about it on occasion. You have my sympathy OP. Try to re-home, you will feel slightly better than if you euthanize.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 5:57:25 PM EST
[#18]
I’m completely lost as to why you already set a kill date on him. You are here asking for a good home for him and I hope someone steps in but you said you have a date already set to kill him? The last thing on my mind with my German Shepard that I have had for ten years would be setting a date to put him down. It would never happen. Moving forward do not get another dog. Dogs and kids are not a good combo for you
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:01:41 PM EST
[#19]
@BLKVooDoo do you know anyone who might want a performance dog and would understand the precautions necessary to keep him and children safe?
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:02:35 PM EST
[#20]
Heartbreaking, OP.

My wife & i have no kids—but our work schedules aren’t conducive to helping, unfortunately.

Damn—I wish it was 10 years ago & I would drive down to get him.

Best for all.  Tough choice—but the right one, OP.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:03:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: VaniB] [#21]
Dang OP, that is sad.


The worries you have reminds me of my Dobie Samson who died 35 years ago, but I still talk to at his gravesite in back of my house. The wife & I concluded that the Good Lord took him for good reason at only 10 years old when my wife was 10 months pregnant expecting our son . Our 80lb dog likely would have been very jealous of our newborn, the same way he was jealous of our large pet Macaw which he jumped and gummed wet in dog saliva. He probably would have killed our parrot had I not been there to loudly and quickly yell at him to stop the attack as I pulled him away.

Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:03:18 PM EST
[#22]
Hate you are having to go through this.  We had to with our mutt a few of years ago.  She was great, took her to dog parks, walks, etc.  Randomly she started getting aggressive with our daughter.  Then she nipped my mother in laws hand and then bit my wife when she tried to get her off the bed a few weeks  later.  That was the last straw.  We attempted to find a home for her but ended up having to put her down.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:03:26 PM EST
[#23]
Sounds like he was protecting the kids
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:04:37 PM EST
[#24]
Definitely a bummer. Sorry to hear.  


But also confused as to why you chose to post pics of him with kids after all the “omg no kids!!!” bit
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:05:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DriftingArmed:
I’m completely lost as to why you already set a kill date on him. You are here asking for a good home for him and I hope someone steps in but you said you have a date already set to kill him? The last thing on my mind with my German Shepard that I have had for ten years would be setting a date to put him down. It would never happen. Moving forward do not get another dog. Dogs and kids are not a good combo for you
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That’s stupid.  Some dogs go bad.  If I had a dog like OP I would put him down, it will likely hurt someone in the future.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:07:39 PM EST
[#26]
Sorry to hear that, OP.

Zoo’s full here, unless he can eat a cat.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:09:02 PM EST
[#27]
He bit. Time to put him down. Had to do the same for our last dog when he took a shot at our middle child and put a puncture in her cheek right below the eye.

It sucks, it's horrible, but it has to be done.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:09:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RigorMortie:
Have you tried kicking his ass for being aggressive towards your kids? Training ain't the answer here. Dog speak is.

Nor is setting up a kill date before asking someone to take him.

You took on a responsibility.  

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This, have you ever shown him that you can kick his ass?

Give us some more background, here.   This doesn't quite add up imo.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:09:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: VaniB] [#29]
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Originally Posted By taliv:
Definitely a bummer. Sorry to hear.  


But also confused as to why you chose to post pics of him with kids after all the “omg no kids!!!” bit
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To show that the dog is not a full time raving, crazed lunatic of an animal. But yea..... the biting the hand thing is not encouraging either, and is the point to make for euthanasia.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:10:27 PM EST
[#30]
I’m sorry to hear this.

I had the EXACT situation happen to me as well.  We put it all off until our dog bit a family friend.  

You know what to do.  😢
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:11:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VaniB:
Dang OP, that is sad.


The worries you have reminds me of my Dobie Samson who died 35 years ago, but I still talk to at his gravesite in back of my house. The wife & I concluded that the Good Lord took him for good reason at only 10 years old when my wife was 10 months pregnant expecting our son . Our 80lb dog likely would have been very jealous of our newborn, the same way he was jealous of our large pet Macaw which he jumped and gummed wet in dog saliva. He probably would have killed our parrot had I not been there to loudly and quickly yell at him to stop the attack as I pull him away.

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German Shepherds know what a human baby is.

He bit OP, what is OP doing that is weird?
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:12:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: speedracer422] [#32]
Man...I'm really sorry to hear that OP.

I couldn't even fathom owning a dog that listens well. Mine was ok for a while, but I failed her in the end. She's a cunt.

I feel like my dog would ruin him lol.

Best of luck. German shepherds are awesome dogs. I'm sure the right person will come along shortly.

ETA: oh, I didn't catch that he bit you OP.
Ya, that sucks ass. You should probably put him down
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:12:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RedSS454:
I wish I could take him, but unfortunately would not be a good fit. I wish you the best of luck, as it is not an easy decision.
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Yea, this.  I'm sure someone will step up though especially around here.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:15:04 PM EST
[#34]
The dog should have already been put down, don’t give your problem to someone else.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:18:00 PM EST
[#35]
Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Hello, all,

I have to re-home or euthanize Zeke. His euthanasia date is August 25, this is a last ditch effort to see if anyone would like to give him a second chance. This is destroying me.

He CAN NOT go to a home with kids. He is fine with other dogs, has met and socialized with hundreds and never an issue. Never met a cat so I don’t know. He DOES NOT want anything to do with kids. NO KIDS.

Zeke has been a companion to me for his 6 years, we have thousands of hours training. I don’t even know where to begin, every basic command, many advanced commands, hell, if you have mulch or woods he wont even poop on your grass. Sit, stand, stay, heel, finish, stand-stay, lay, up, down, off, upstairs, downstairs, garage, truck, inside, outside, he knows them all. Has the basics in German, bliben, zeets, plotz etc. We dont have a fence and he doesn’t leave our 2 acre yard. AKC certified, no health issues.

Trouble started when our first born son started getting mobile a year ago. Zeke showed signs of aggression whenever the kiddo would crawl toward him. I reluctantly made a feeble attempt to re-home him then, but instead we hit some more professional training real hard in hopes we could work it out of him, and it seemed to as we had no issues over the year.

We welcomed our second son a month ago and things have been going smooth, but this morning Zeke turned on me out of nowhere. The newborn was laying on the ground and Zeke was across the room lightly growling at him. When I moved toward Zeke to herd him out of the room he turned on me and showed teeth. I got positive control of his collar with my left hand but when we got to the door I moved my right hand to open the door infront of him and he took his shot at my hand . No thrashing etc but a few deep puncture wounds. It was largely unprovoked and I have no trust for him being in the house with my kids/wife. I hate it but he has to go. Kids make him incredibly uncomfortable.

He’s beautiful, super smart, incredibly obedient, no wander lust. Our third 1 hour session with our trainer he couldn’t even believe how good he is. Said he could win amateur competitions with him right then as he was, with no treats or anything. Zeke will work hard literally out of respect. He’s  the perfect dog in almost every way, he just isn’t affectionate and HATES kids.

I don’t know what else to say. If you’re interested please ask questions and Ill answer. I can’t even look at him without coming to tears knowing what lies ahead for him. He’s been my best friend.

Ill get some current pics up tonight when the kids get to bed.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252780/F833A1AE-CED2-471A-B193-BBAB596087CB-2446458.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252780/AC755FBF-67B6-4E20-9E48-6FCFE2DF62D8-2485531.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252780/54CE8425-D14F-4521-8404-8A206718DC34-2485533.jpg





Here he is today.

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Contact these people via Facebook!   There phone always goes right to voice mail.

@zegermanznew

They are in Amesbury, Mass.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:18:24 PM EST
[#36]
My sister-in-law had a dog that they loved but was overly aggressive towards children. They tried a lot of stuff to fix the dogs behavior. They ended up putting the dog down after they tried to remove him and he attacked the new owners and they gave him back.

Good luck in trying to remove him. The whole situation sucks and it's terrible your going through a rough time. Hopefully you can find someone who can take him in.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:33:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Naamah:
@BLKVooDoo do you know anyone who might want a performance dog and would understand the precautions necessary to keep him and children safe?
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Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:34:20 PM EST
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Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
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I will volunteer to take Zeke to the western PA border or similar distance.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:36:06 PM EST
[#39]
I wouldn't have a dog that I was worried about biting folks. Good luck OP.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:36:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PGAEMU:



I will volunteer to take Zeke to the westen PA border or similar distance.
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:



Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,



I will volunteer to take Zeke to the westen PA border or similar distance.



Alright, now we are talking.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:36:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Southernman077:
I wouldn't have a dog that I was worried about biting folks. Good luck OP.
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Well, thats what I do.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:37:21 PM EST
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German Shepherds know what a human baby is.

He bit OP, what is OP doing that is weird?
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Originally Posted By VaniB:
Dang OP, that is sad.


The worries you have reminds me of my Dobie Samson who died 35 years ago, but I still talk to at his gravesite in back of my house. The wife & I concluded that the Good Lord took him for good reason at only 10 years old when my wife was 10 months pregnant expecting our son . Our 80lb dog likely would have been very jealous of our newborn, the same way he was jealous of our large pet Macaw which he jumped and gummed wet in dog saliva. He probably would have killed our parrot had I not been there to loudly and quickly yell at him to stop the attack as I pull him away.




German Shepherds know what a human baby is.

He bit OP, what is OP doing that is weird?


That the dog bit was added to the OP's original post from what I read.

Dog needs to go to someone who knows dog think.

Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:37:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:



Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
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Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:41:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:



Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
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Way to step up. Glad to see him going to a good home.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:41:27 PM EST
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Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
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I may regret this, but I'm willing to take the guy as far as Canton Ohio from the pa border.
I work til 4pm weekdays.


Edit: whomever is organizing, please IM me and I'll be sure to check my arf IMs everyday.
I can pick him up at the cranberry TWP interchange.
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:46:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: HecklerKac] [#46]
Wtf is with the kill date? Thats weird dude.

Hopefully he finds a home
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:47:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HecklerKac:
Wtf is with the kill date? Thats weird dude.

Find him a home
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It's basically a threat I assume
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:52:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By speedracer422:
I may regret this, but I'm willing to take the guy as far as Canton Ohio from the pa border.
I work til 4pm weekdays.


Edit: whomever is organizing, please IM me and I'll be sure to check my arf IMs everyday.
I can pick him up at the cranberry TWP interchange.
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Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:



Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
I may regret this, but I'm willing to take the guy as far as Canton Ohio from the pa border.
I work til 4pm weekdays.


Edit: whomever is organizing, please IM me and I'll be sure to check my arf IMs everyday.
I can pick him up at the cranberry TWP interchange.



I have a class starting in a couple day, I cannot travel. Get the dog here arfcom!  We have Ct through PA to OH!
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:56:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:



Lets figure out logistics. Zeke has a home with me,
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You the Man BLKVooDoo... I will say, I hope for the best...
Link Posted: 8/11/2022 6:56:53 PM EST
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Op change the  thread title
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