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Posted: 4/18/2007 10:51:41 AM EDT
Presser from her website, Hillaryissatan.com


From the Senate: Statement on Supreme Court's Gonzales v. Carhart Decision

Washington, DC -- "This decision marks a dramatic departure from four decades of Supreme Court rulings that upheld a woman's right to choose and recognized the importance of women's health. Today's decision blatantly defies the Court's recent decision in 2000 striking down a state partial-birth abortion law because of its failure to provide an exception for the health of the mother. As the Supreme Court recognized in Roe v. Wade in 1973, this issue is complex and highly personal; the rights and lives of women must be taken into account. It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito."


But she'd vote for gun bans... that would erode our constitutional rights.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:53:48 AM EDT
if only her mom had exercised the abortion option
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:54:25 AM EDT
hyp·o·crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hip-uh-krit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:55:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 10:55:23 AM EDT by Ohio308FAL]
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:56:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 10:57:28 AM EDT by kill-9]

Originally Posted By macman37:
Presser from her website, Hillaryissatan.com


From the Senate: Statement on Supreme Court's Gonzales v. Carhart Decision

Washington, DC -- "This decision marks a dramatic departure from four decades of Supreme Court rulings that upheld a woman's right to choose and recognized the importance of women's health. Today's decision blatantly defies the Court's recent decision in 2000 striking down a state partial-birth abortion law because of its failure to provide an exception for the health of the mother. As the Supreme Court recognized in Roe v. Wade in 1973, this issue is complex and highly personal; the rights and lives of women must be taken into account. It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito."


But she'd vote for gun bans... that would erode our constitutional rights.


Not to mention that her highest ideal would have us all taxed to fund, and subjected to, a government-run health care system with, as another member said, the efficiency of the DMV and the compassion of the IRS.

Just say No to socialist tyrants, just say No to Hillary.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:57:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?




It's right after seperation of church and state.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:57:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



...or the part that allows .gov to control or ban guns and accessories?

HH
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 11:05:24 AM EDT
typical democrat double speak
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 11:09:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:20:41 PM EDT
I have noticed libtards referring to the constitution a lot lately.
Seems they want to pick out which parts fit their agenda and deny the rest.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:22:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ShadowCompany:
I have noticed libtards referring to the constitution a lot lately.
Seems they want to pick out which parts fit their agenda and deny the rest.


It's a "Living document" don'tcha know?
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:25:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 12:27:12 PM EDT by M4-AK]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
hyp·o·crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hip-uh-krit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


She doesn't believe in anything other than socialism, she's just a power junkie. Anything to get more power.


edited to say: ...and socialism is really good as long as you're at the top of the pyramid like Castro and Chavez.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:26:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 12:29:14 PM EDT by qualityhardware]
This she'll defend:

sicko

I'm pro choice for the most part, but this partial birth shit is some sadistic, fucked-up, gruesome shit.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:27:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


Really? My copy doesn't have that phrase.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:35:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 12:35:43 PM EDT by POOR_MAN]
I don't get how people can claim the constitution protects the right to have an abortion.(Commit murder) If anything it says right the opposite.

Someone site thier source.

In '05 Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito voiced his support of the Reagan administration's fight to show "the Constitution does not protect a right to an abortion."

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 12:42:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By POOR_MAN:
I don't get how people can claim the constitution protects the right to have an abortion.(Commit murder) If anything it says right the opposite.

Someone site thier source.

In '05 Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito voiced his support of the Reagan administration's fight to show "the Constitution does not protect a right to an abortion."



You must understand the liberals' perspective. Such rulings occurred during the draconian Conservative control of the nation and thus are null and void in their eyes.

Goes back to what I said before about the liberals' belief that the Constitution being a living, breathing document -- Anything- laws, rulings, you name it- that happened while Republicans were in power are things that fall under that "living document" bit.

Their own idiocy, according to them, is the wlll of the people and should be set in stone.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 1:04:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


That was the Declaration of Independence, genius.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 1:07:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:17:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 3:20:59 PM EDT by tyman]

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


That was the Declaration of Independence, genius.


Which ties into the Constitution.

The Constitution is not the only piece of paper that gives us freedoms. Without the DoI, we would not have had a Constitution.

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:18:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:18:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 3:22:09 PM EDT by tyman]

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


Really? My copy doesn't have that phrase.


See above post as well.

Your copy has this though:
"and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:21:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


That was the Declaration of Independence, genius.


Which ties into the Constitution.

The Constitution is not the only piece of paper that gives us freedoms. Without the DoI, we would not have had a Constitution.



The Declaration of Independence has no legal bindings whatsoever.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:24:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Osirus23:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


That was the Declaration of Independence, genius.


Which ties into the Constitution.

The Constitution is not the only piece of paper that gives us freedoms. Without the DoI, we would not have had a Constitution.



The Declaration of Independence has no legal bindings whatsoever.


And without it, this country would have never happened. Thats pretty binding to me.

However, no one said it had legal bindings. But like the DoI says:

that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...


Whether the Courts recognize this or not, I could care less. God's law > man's
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:26:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 3:33:48 PM EDT by Alien]

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


Uhhh yeah

1) Not using birth control (blame falls on both parties here). Sure a condom can break and they aren't 100% effective (but they are pretty damn close). But there are also things like diaphrams, spermicides, pills, etc. I'd bet my AR15 that an overwhelming number of unplanned pregnancies are due to a total lack of birth control.

2) Not using the morning after pill (pretty much makes the broken condom or rape excuse null and void).


Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Osirus23:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Flakchak:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


That was the Declaration of Independence, genius.


Which ties into the Constitution.

The Constitution is not the only piece of paper that gives us freedoms. Without the DoI, we would not have had a Constitution.



The Declaration of Independence has no legal bindings whatsoever.


And without it, this country would have never happened. Thats pretty binding to me.

However, no one said it had legal bindings. But like the DoI says:

that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...


Whether the Courts recognize this or not, I could care less. God's law > man's


I didn't realize that we had a right to not be responsible for our actions and that murdering an unborn child fell under the categories of Liberty and Happiness.

The Bill of Rights and Constitution are what enumerate our guarantee our rights man. Not the DoI.

By the way I believe that abortion rights activists and the Supreme Court say/said that it falls under the Right to Privacy. So, you're pretty much wrong.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:30:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



You know, it's funny that I stumbled on this thread. At dinner I was watching the news and thinking, 'How is abortion a constitutional right?'. I don't get it. I get on here, and there's a thread about that exact thing. Amazing.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:33:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 3:34:11 PM EDT by tyman]

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


Uhhh yeah

1) Not using birth control (blame falls on both parties here). Sure a condom can break and they aren't 100% effective (but they are pretty damn close). But there are also things like diaphrams, spermicides, pills, etc. I'd bet my AR15 that an overwhelming number of unplanned pregnancies are due to a total lack of birth control.

2) Not using the morning after pill (pretty much makes the broken condom or rape excuse null and void).


So even if someone uses a condom and the pill and they get pregnant, its still "a stupid mistake"?

And not everyone knows about the MAP.

You think a woman is going to be of sound mind and body after a rape where she is going to go "Oh yes, I must go to the drug store and get the Morning After Pill!"





Eta: I should have clarified in the beginning about the text from the DoI and not put it under the "show me where in the constitution post".
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:39:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 3:44:38 PM EDT by Alien]

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


Uhhh yeah

1) Not using birth control (blame falls on both parties here). Sure a condom can break and they aren't 100% effective (but they are pretty damn close). But there are also things like diaphrams, spermicides, pills, etc. I'd bet my AR15 that an overwhelming number of unplanned pregnancies are due to a total lack of birth control.

2) Not using the morning after pill (pretty much makes the broken condom or rape excuse null and void).


So even if someone uses a condom and the pill and they get pregnant, its still "a stupid mistake"?

And not everyone knows about the MAP.

You think a woman is going to be of sound mind and body after a rape where she is going to go "Oh yes, I must go to the drug store and get the Morning After Pill!"





Eta: I should have clarified in the beginning about the text from the DoI and not put it under the "show me where in the constitution post".


A woman that has just been rape owes it to herself (and other future potential victims) to contact the police and report it and to seek immediate counseling. They can see to it that she is well aware of the morning after pill. Also, anybody that's in high school these days will know about it.

Also, I'd bet any one of my bodily appendages that a complete lack of birth control leads to the overwhelming majority of pregnancies out there due to complete lack of responsibility and carelessness. You are trying to use the exception as reason enough to have an abortion.

Anyway you would have to literally be retarded to have sex and not realize that having sex carries the risk of pregnancy in the first place since afterall, that is the whole point of what sex is. People just refuse to be responsible for their actions. There are inherit "risks" with sex, like STDs and drumroll please... pregnancy!

So you're pregnant... now what? Well you don't have to take responsibility for your baby if you don't want to. You can give it up for adoption with little to no questions asked. You can drop off a baby at any police or fire station here in Arizona and completely drop any and all responsibilities with absolutely zero repercussions other than your own conscience.

Life is cheap to some people. This reminds me of the people that will put a dog to sleep simply because they don't want to take care of it anymore when there's nothing even wrong with it.

And also you should read my edit in my earlier post about abortion being rationalized under the right to privacy by the way since you are wrong there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:43:37 PM EDT
You understand that in this picture of the decapitated child the doctor could have been arrested and charged with 1st degree murder if the mother had wanted the child. So somebody elses life is a matter of someone elses intention. Its not a life unless the mother thinks its a life. What if the mother doesnt want the child after its 2 years old and decides to abort its life because its not viable and is placing a huge burden and is affecting the health of the mother because of stress?
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:49:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
Presser from her website, Hillaryissatan.com


From the Senate: Statement on Supreme Court's Gonzales v. Carhart Decision

Washington, DC -- "This decision marks a dramatic departure from four decades of Supreme Court rulings that upheld a woman's right to choose and recognized the importance of women's health. Today's decision blatantly defies the Court's recent decision in 2000 striking down a state partial-birth abortion law because of its failure to provide an exception for the health of the mother. As the Supreme Court recognized in Roe v. Wade in 1973, this issue is complex and highly personal; the rights and lives of women must be taken into account. It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito."


But she'd vote for gun bans... that would erode our constitutional rights.


wow!
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:56:18 PM EDT
Most people have never read the Constitution and don't care to. They know what they WANT to know and what they WANT their rights to be...

It is a lot like Law Enforcement...people only want the Police to enforce the laws that they think are correct....

Link Posted: 4/18/2007 4:02:22 PM EDT
oh, the irony.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 4:08:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Originally Posted By 9th Amendment:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.



Originally Posted By 10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


I'm not a big fan of stabbing fetuses or anything, but there's no way the Constitution lets the federal government ban it. Of course, there's no way the Constitution lets the feds do most of what they do, but who's counting anyway?
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 5:57:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Alien:


A woman that has just been rape owes it to herself (and other future potential victims) to contact the police and report it and to seek immediate counseling. They can see to it that she is well aware of the morning after pill. Also, anybody that's in high school these days will know about it.

Also, I'd bet any one of my bodily appendages that a complete lack of birth control leads to the overwhelming majority of pregnancies out there due to complete lack of responsibility and carelessness. You are trying to use the exception as reason enough to have an abortion.

Anyway you would have to literally be retarded to have sex and not realize that having sex carries the risk of pregnancy in the first place since afterall, that is the whole point of what sex is. People just refuse to be responsible for their actions. There are inherit "risks" with sex, like STDs and drumroll please... pregnancy!

So you're pregnant... now what? Well you don't have to take responsibility for your baby if you don't want to. You can give it up for adoption with little to no questions asked. You can drop off a baby at any police or fire station here in Arizona and completely drop any and all responsibilities with absolutely zero repercussions other than your own conscience.

Life is cheap to some people. This reminds me of the people that will put a dog to sleep simply because they don't want to take care of it anymore when there's nothing even wrong with it.

And also you should read my edit in my earlier post about abortion being rationalized under the right to privacy by the way since you are wrong there. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence.


I agree, she does owe it to herself and others. However, you really think she's going to be of sound mind/body like I said right after that traumatic ordeal happens?


And completing a baby through 9mos is going to cost ALOT more than having an abortion a month into being pregnant. So by carrying out the pregnancy, the girl is out even more financial costs.


Listen, I'm not advocating unsafe sex or using abortion as birth control ()....I'm simply saying that women should have the choice of what they want to do.
I'm very against using abortion as birth control.

Abortion has nothing to do with the right of privacy. And Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness has everything do with the DoI. It sets the guidelines for which the Constitution was written.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 5:59:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By macman37:
Presser from her website, Hillaryissatan.com


From the Senate: Statement on Supreme Court's Gonzales v. Carhart Decision

Washington, DC -- "This decision marks a dramatic departure from four decades of Supreme Court rulings that upheld a woman's right to choose and recognized the importance of women's health. Today's decision blatantly defies the Court's recent decision in 2000 striking down a state partial-birth abortion law because of its failure to provide an exception for the health of the mother. As the Supreme Court recognized in Roe v. Wade in 1973, this issue is complex and highly personal; the rights and lives of women must be taken into account. It is precisely this erosion of our constitutional rights that I warned against when I opposed the nominations of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito."


But she'd vote for gun bans... that would erode our constitutional rights.


wow!


Doesnt surprise me, she's a liberal democrat. Remember, they're the ones that like abortion.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:18:10 PM EDT
The best part of Hillary rolled down her mother's chin.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:24:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TXmetalhead:
if only her mom had exercised the abortion option


That's the Gods truth!
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:43:11 PM EDT
"Keep Your Laws Off My Body! That Includes My Trigger Finger!"
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 6:48:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 6:50:41 PM EDT by Towely]

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


No, just 99.999%. Don't play that card, either you believe its a human or you don't. If you are anti-abortion but think exceptions should be made for rape or incest then you are no worse than the Nazi's. Trying to make a woman more comfortable because she got raped by allowing her to kill a human being is ludacris. If you simply believe a fetus isn't a human than I simply disagree with you.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 7:28:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


No, just 99.999%. Don't play that card, either you believe its a human or you don't. If you are anti-abortion but think exceptions should be made for rape or incest then you are no worse than the Nazi's. Trying to make a woman more comfortable because she got raped by allowing her to kill a human being is ludacris. If you simply believe a fetus isn't a human than I simply disagree with you.


Your belief is based on religion, mine is based on reality.

And I do believe that a fetus is NOT a human.

So we agree to disagree.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 7:34:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2007 7:35:32 PM EDT by Towely]

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Towely:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Ohio308FAL:
Can she point me to the text of the constitution that grants abortion rights?



Pretty sure its under the "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" category.


1: Wtf are you sure you're reading the same document?

2: How the fuck is that phrase pro-abortion? If anything one could argue that abortion takes away the childs right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.'

A woman as the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness but it doesn't protect her from the consequences of a stupid mistake.


See above post.

So now, ALL abortions are because of a womans "stupid mistake"?

And a fetus is not a child.


No, just 99.999%. Don't play that card, either you believe its a human or you don't. If you are anti-abortion but think exceptions should be made for rape or incest then you are no worse than the Nazi's. Trying to make a woman more comfortable because she got raped by allowing her to kill a human being is ludacris. If you simply believe a fetus isn't a human than I simply disagree with you.


Your belief is based on religion, mine is based on reality.

And I do believe that a fetus is NOT a human.

So we agree to disagree.


No it isn't. I don't believe it's a human just because it has a soul from conception. I believe its a human because it has a heartbeat, functioning brain and human DNA ect.
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