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Posted: 8/23/2017 2:58:15 PM EST
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/opinions/concealed-carry-act-opinion-vance/index.html

Get a load of this bullshit.. fuck communist news network and fuck yahoo for posting crap like this. This douchebag's justification for why reciprocity would be bad, is this...

The CCRA is a gift to these terrorists. A person on a watch list could purchase multiple handguns at a gun show, take those guns into Manhattan and carry them, fully loaded, into Times Square. It wouldn't be a crime until they started shooting.

because we all know terrorists are all about following the law.. I can see Achmed saying praise allah!! ccw reciprocity is now the law of the infidels! we can carry legally in new york now!!!! ayayayayayayayayayaiiiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiai

I guess new york considers everyone criminals just for owning or carrying a gun, regardless of what you do with it.
More mind diarrhea:

Consider this: Eleven states grant concealed-carry privileges to individuals who have not undergone any safety training. Twenty states grant permits to people who have been convicted of violent crimes. And 12 states do not require any kind of permit or license to carry a concealed firearm. The CCRA would make it legal for someone to carry that concealed, loaded firearm into New York or anyplace else, regardless of local law.
Public safety is like oxygen. We don't always notice when we have it, but if it went away, we'd realize quite quickly. Without security and stability, tourists wouldn't visit. Developers wouldn't have the confidence to invest. Businesses would lose out on top talent, and their customers would flee.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:00:14 PM EST
Just like it has everywhere else that has CCW, right?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:05:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2017 3:05:57 PM EST by hawktheslayer]
They always use that excuse that it will turn an area into the "Wild West"-- and afterwards when concealed carry comes to an area it never becomes the "Wild West." It's utter horseshit.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:08:53 PM EST
Maybe this Country needs a little more "Wild West" these days.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:13:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:14:15 PM EST
That should be written as The Former News Network - cnn. They're just the swamp propaganda arm now.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:17:19 PM EST
Daily dose of CNN???? Why in the heck would anyone intentionally subject themselves to a "daily dose" of Communist News Network crap?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:17:47 PM EST
Ever since they went to constitutional carry here in NH I've had to walk over so many bodies every morning just to get to my car...
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:20:14 PM EST
I "wild west" it with a Glock.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:21:53 PM EST
NYC is super-special.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:24:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:26:09 PM EST
It is good news that CNN is running this bullshit, it means they are worried it will pass. I'd still like to see everyone involved in that piece of shit propaganda arm of the Democrat party die a painful death. From the CEO down to the janitor who cleans the toilets.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:29:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By kabal57:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/opinions/concealed-carry-act-opinion-vance/index.html

Get a load of this bullshit.. fuck communist news network and fuck yahoo for posting crap like this. This douchebag's justification for why reciprocity would be bad, is this...

The CCRA is a gift to these terrorists. A person on a watch list could purchase multiple handguns at a gun show, take those guns into Manhattan and carry them, fully loaded, into Times Square. It wouldn't be a crime until they started shooting.

because we all know terrorists are all about following the law.. I can see Achmed saying praise allah!! ccw reciprocity is now the law of the infidels! we can carry legally in new york now!!!! ayayayayayayayayayaiiiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiai

I guess new york considers everyone criminals just for owning or carrying a gun, regardless of what you do with it.
More mind diarrhea:

Consider this: Eleven states grant concealed-carry privileges to individuals who have not undergone any safety training. Twenty states grant permits to people who have been convicted of violent crimes. And 12 states do not require any kind of permit or license to carry a concealed firearm. The CCRA would make it legal for someone to carry that concealed, loaded firearm into New York or anyplace else, regardless of local law.
Public safety is like oxygen. We don't always notice when we have it, but if it went away, we'd realize quite quickly. Without security and stability, tourists wouldn't visit. Developers wouldn't have the confidence to invest. Businesses would lose out on top talent, and their customers would flee.
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"A person on a watch list could purchase multiple handguns at a gun show, take those guns into Manhattan and carry them, fully loaded, into Times Square"

This has always been and always will be the case. It has nothing to do with CCRA.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:32:23 PM EST
Most of what people believe about the "Wild West" they learned on TV during the 50's and 60's. All men did not carry a Colt in a fast draw rig. "Fast draw" was started by Hollywood in the 50's. Crime was less in Dodge City than in New York at the time, and way less than it is now. There were very few bank robberies because there were very few banks. Train robberies, yes a few. About 400 settlers were killed by Indians and there were no Indian attacks on circled wagon trains that I know of. The "Wild West" is a movie/TV genre, not a real time/place.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:33:36 PM EST
An armed society it a polite society.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:34:10 PM EST
when i lived in the bronx (da bronx), you could go to quite a few of the local bodegas
in the neighborhood and ask for the "special" of the day

yep....not salami
not pastrami

just a nice hot under the table heater, ....."to go"

of course, you had to be known as not the law
and....cash and carry

i dont know what these people are all worked up about
this has been "business as usual" for decades

funny....this wouldnt work for achmed, since he would be tagged as an outsider
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:38:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 3:42:35 PM EST
National reciprocity will destroy most of the state laws with heavy restrictions on carry or even possession of a pistol. It will be hard to defend in court requiring multiple character references to even touch a pistol when people can carry in that same state by just filling out a form.

Of course this won't stop people on our side from doing their best to stop national reciprocity because they fear some national standard for issuing carry permits. We are too smart for our own good. Liberals support anything that moves there agenda forward while we have people who fight every little step out of fear. It is no wonder liberals win while bitch about laws we don't see as 100% perfect.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:17:26 PM EST
Same shit here when there was talk of allowing CC in bars (open carry was already permitted). The gun grabbers screamed that there'd be "blood flowing in the streets". As usual, they were wrong.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:22:31 PM EST
Standard reply from years ago, when states where changing their CCW laws

Outcome: safer society 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:28:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2017 4:29:38 PM EST by ThunderStick]
LOL. A terrorist shooting could happen any day in New York!! Let's hope it does not happen because liberals will hold American gun owners accountable for the terrorism and not the crazy jihadis. They will propose laws that will have no effect thereby punishing only law abiding gun owners.

It is amazing how this idiot thinks that people who are willing to commit mass murder are currently obeying a law that prohibits possessing weapons in New York. In his world the New York gun laws stop terrorists from shooting people. The definition of a criminal/terrorist is someone who does not obey laws.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:29:23 PM EST
Insert "Welcome to New York. You are under arrest" picture here.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:30:04 PM EST
It was a constant mantra of the left in Ohio when CCW was going through, "WILD WEST, WILD WEST, IT'S GONNA BE THE WILD WEST!!!". They made it out like, "If this goes through, the streets will run red with blood and scream with the sounds of gunfire and the lamentation of our non-gender specific lamentors!" Then it passed, and nobody ever heard or talked about it again. It's funny, sometimes when I meet new non gun people and they eventually realize I carry semi regularly, they say "that's legal?" and then sort of say, "Weird," and shrug. It's a non issue now.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:32:40 PM EST
Same thing they said here when we passed shall issue.  Chicago liberals fought hard for may issue claiming the state would be a blood bath.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:34:05 PM EST
Well, I have to admit, here in Oregon we have both concealed and open carry.

"The First 48" still seems to find us lacking as far as (Profitable) staging of crews here.

Damn our White Privilege!  I'm sorry
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:39:51 PM EST
It's not just fake news from the networks, they also have fear mongering to add to the mix in their desire to suppress constitutional rights.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:44:00 PM EST
There is not a fact in the article.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:44:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Maybe this Country needs a little more "Wild West" these days.
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Better Wild West than Chicago! 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:45:00 PM EST
Hey, blood flowed in the streets at the end of the AWB back in September 2004...

Don't you remember?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:45:46 PM EST
AZ is literally the wild west, and I find I quite like the state, except for McCuntstain.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:47:08 PM EST
Sounds like it's time for the NYPD to recall Extorris.

Only he can save us!!!
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:48:05 PM EST
Leftists are just about literally shitting themselves in terror over the direction America is going.


It's awesome.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:48:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:50:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hawktheslayer:
They always use that excuse that it will turn an area into the "Wild West"-- and afterwards when concealed carry comes to an area it never becomes the "Wild West." It's utter horseshit.
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You want a fun one?  What was the actual crime rate in the Wild West compared to the big liberal bastions?  Any Guess?  Put it this way the Wild West was a picnic compared to Detroit, Chicago, LA, DC, MD.  A picnic.  It's all lies. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:51:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Maybe this Country needs a little more "Wild West" these days.
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Link Posted: 8/23/2017 4:55:15 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:08:29 PM EST
I hope they pass it. I really want to walk around NYC carrying. 
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:10:44 PM EST
Yes especially that "WORLDLY CITY" NYC. A shithole.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:15:41 PM EST
Not a day goes by here in MT that I don't have to duck from all of the stray bullets flying around, because of legal CCW here. Do yourself a favor NYC... do NOT allow law-abiding citizens to carry these WMDs on your streets. Just keep allowing the criminals to carry them. Your gun-free-zone city will continue to be the bastion of safety, sanity, and serenity that it has always been.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:42:01 PM EST
Liberal/socialists always project their innermost urges.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:43:16 PM EST
If this was true, you stupid fuckers wouldn't move, visit, or vacation in the Gunshine State
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:46:31 PM EST
Yep, and if they ever legalized suppressors here we would all turn into assassins.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:48:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ARDunstan:
Liberal/socialists always project their innermost urges.
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Yup. Because they are too mentally unstable to handle the responsibility of the 2A, then EVERYONE must be 'tarded like they are.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:49:09 PM EST
Hopefully, it passes and Bloomyturd and Andy stroke out, and are left bed ridden till their end of days.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:50:58 PM EST
yes sure it will
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:51:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
Same thing they said here when we passed shall issue.  Chicago liberals fought hard for may issue claiming the state would be a blood bath.
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Are they saying Chicago could get worse?
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:52:35 PM EST
They lie......again.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 5:59:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Ever since they went to constitutional carry here in NH I've had to walk over so many bodies every morning just to get to my car...
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Yup. Same as when I cross over into VT or ME where C C is the norm, the blood is knee deep.
Biggest problem is Massholes can ccw here but I can't there where I might actually need it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:00:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Ever since they went to constitutional carry here in NH I've had to walk over so many bodies every morning just to get to my car...
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Yup. Same as when I cross over into VT or ME where C C is the norm, the blood is knee deep.
Biggest problem is Massholes can ccw here but I can't there where I might actually need it.
Link Posted: 8/23/2017 6:02:39 PM EST
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