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Posted: 2/23/2016 10:48:20 PM EDT
You're about to get crammed into a time machine and sent back to 1860 to live out the remainder of your life in the old west.

You've been given time to prepare supplies. Due to technological limitations, you can only bring 87lbs of supplies into the time machine. This includes everything from clothing, to guns, ammo, medical supplies, books, survival gear, etc. Only your naked self is excluded from this weight calculation.

Also, precious metals/currency are forbidden. So no maxing out your credit cards and bringing 100 ounces of gold bars.

So what are you bringing?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:51:08 PM EDT
Books and lots of them. ;) To know what will happen and have that at your finger tips is Yuge!
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:51:58 PM EDT
87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working on macht schnell.



Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:54:03 PM EDT
If you took a laptop and a small hand crank generator you could take back tons of information on thumb drives.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:54:08 PM EDT
All i need is the 1860 sports almanac.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:54:56 PM EDT
Do you know how late it is?

Some of us have been drinking and are not expected to do math.

How about something like what gun would you bring back to tame the west?

It would be a M16A2, because I imagine there would lots of walking to do.
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OF COURSE!
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:55:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swingset:
87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working on macht schnell.

Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.

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Why's it crispy?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:56:06 PM EDT
Can I be vaccinated for pretty much everything before I leave?
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:57:10 PM EDT
Machinery Handbook


Something to trade for a train ticket to Provo Utah
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:57:13 PM EDT
Razors, soap, and perfume.  Im introducing the landing strip before planes are even invented.
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This man is a genius
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 10:59:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Federov:
Do you know how late it is?

Some of us have been drinking and are not expected to do math.

How about something like what gun would you bring back to tame the west?

It would be a M16A2, because I imagine there would lots of walking to do.
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I'd probably bring a plain Jane AR and G19.

The gun discussion gets interesting because they'll be limited to modern ammo and the weight of that can add up quickly.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:00:00 PM EDT
Notebook computer downloaded with instructions to make:
Penicillin.
smokeless powder.
blue prints for Browning 1919.
Blue prints for Browning 1885
Blue prints for 1911.
blue prints for internal combustion engine & the Ford Model A.
Plans for a Fokker D VII
blue prints for Japanese Long Lance torpedo
blue prints for German Type XXI submarine
Blue prints for AK
Blue prints for T-34/76
Blue prints for S&W DA revolver in .357 magnum
Blue prints for diesel locomotive
Blue prints for the Win 92
Blue prints for the Win 94
Blue prints for the Win 95

I'll invent the paperclip and then the stapler.
I'll also invent the loading gate for the Henry 1860 rifle (hence the 1866).
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:04:47 PM EDT
I would strip naked, except for a place carrier w/plates and 6 mags. Carry a KAC SR-15 and a little over 50 lbs of ammo.
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Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:05:25 PM EDT
How many AKs and ammo boxes can I fit? Oh and a book of Civil War battles to show General Lee and his commanding generals what not to do. A selection of magazine articles about #BLM, Obama, and SJWs in general and show them to the CSA congress.

We're going to nip that problem in the bud and repatriate anyone who wants to go back to the motherland, the rest can remain as unmolested freemen.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:05:55 PM EDT
m16
porn
laptop
hand generator
condoms
skittles
insulin
better bone saw
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:06:15 PM EDT
I'm bringing 87 pounds of newspapers from 2008 too 2016, I'm walking in to the White house and sitting down with Abe and saying " Here fucking read this shit, we need to make some changes to the constitution buddy"
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:06:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tier1ForumOperator:
You're about to get crammed into a time machine and sent back to 1860 to live out the remainder of your life in the old west.

You've been given time to prepare supplies. Due to technological limitations, you can only bring 87lbs of supplies into the time machine. This includes everything from clothing, to guns, ammo, medical supplies, books, survival gear, etc. Only your naked self is excluded from this weight calculation.

Also, precious metals/currency are forbidden. So no maxing out your credit cards and bringing 100 ounces of gold bars.

So what are you bringing?
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The entire printed version of the US Patent Office and maxing out the credit cards on physical gold
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:01 PM EDT
87 pounds of fuel, so I can get back.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:11 PM EDT
87 pounds of gold.



With financing I can handle the rest.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:17 PM EDT
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I'm bringing 87 pounds of newspapers from 2008 too 2016, I'm walking in to the White house and sitting down with Abe and saying " Here fucking read this shit, we need to make some changes to the constitution buddy"
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Clear up that interstate commerce clause.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:32 PM EDT
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This man is a genius
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Originally Posted By Cucumbermonkey:
If you took a laptop and a small hand crank generator you could take back tons of information on thumb drives.



This man is a genius

Tablets and solar powered charges. Less weight than hand crank.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:39 PM EDT
Geologic maps of the Homestake and Comstock.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:51 PM EDT
I think if I were to bring a weapon, a grease gun or a Sten would be what I would take. Simply because it could be easily reproduced with the technology of the times. I would be a millionaire.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:07:52 PM EDT
Blue-prints/instructions for Haber-Bosch process.

Worldwide monopoly on explosives & fertilizer production should generate some decent coin.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:09:43 PM EDT
Map of every major gold field in the US
AR and 12 magazines, case of ammo
Medical supplies
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:12:36 PM EDT
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I'd probably bring a plain Jane AR and G19.

The gun discussion gets interesting because they'll be limited to modern ammo and the weight of that can add up quickly.
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Originally Posted By Federov:
Do you know how late it is?

Some of us have been drinking and are not expected to do math.

How about something like what gun would you bring back to tame the west?

It would be a M16A2, because I imagine there would lots of walking to do.


I'd probably bring a plain Jane AR and G19.

The gun discussion gets interesting because they'll be limited to modern ammo and the weight of that can add up quickly.


Oh, but an AR will work with black powder, albeit for a few shots.

Smokeless powder could be brought in bulk, coupled with the small case size and charge weight means it could be reloaded.

Lead bullets could be substituted, with a slower charge and frequent cleaning.

Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:14:07 PM EDT
I have to shake my head at the people who want to take modern guns into the era of black-powder only.

Yes, you can take the formula for modern primers and powders and brass, but then you have to develop the machinery and process' to make those things, plus secure a source of materials.
I'm no expert, but I think it'll take a few iterations of all 3 to even get halfway decent components. You know, technology to make the technology.

Not to mention the higher tolerances and metallurgy for modern guns vs. 1860. Sure, you can make the aluminum parts out of steel, but they're gonna become heavy.

All this assumes you want to reproduce the guns and components of course. If you just want to use them for hunting and self defense while exploring the west, then just bring ammo, spare parts, and maybe a lee loader.

If I were going to arm one side or another for the coming war, I'd go with the AK...even 1860 tech should be able to make sheet metal.
Still the issue of components though.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:14:40 PM EDT
70 flashlights and 17 pounds of ky
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:15:59 PM EDT
Solar charger and laptop loaded with the Library of Congress and everything else.

This includes all the horse races and other sporting events that a bet can be placed.

Tesla and Edison are gonna work for me.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:17:36 PM EDT
87 pounds of tannerite.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:24:15 PM EDT
Where in the west? Can I pick?

Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:25:59 PM EDT

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87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working on macht schnell.



Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.

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Pfft. Kindle full of said info, and a solar charger.




Now what to do with the other 84 lbs
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:26:12 PM EDT
I would bring a few (for redundancy) Amazon Kindles back along with a couple of small solar chargers. The Kindles would be loaded down with all kinds of stuff from interesting fiction to technical information. I would also bring back several solar powered calculators. One of them would be worth a fortune in 1860.

And solar powered digital watches. Imagine what one would be worth to the rich and powerful. Imagine the access one of them could buy when presented to the right politician or business leader.

With luck I could prevent the Civil War and end slavery in the US as well based on the information I would bring back.

And a couple of laptops loaded with a whole bunch of videos. I mean, just one Miley Cyrus video would be enough to convince the people of 1860 that they must follow my lead and alter the course of history so as to prevent modern culture from ever existing.
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This man is a genius
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Originally Posted By Cucumbermonkey:
If you took a laptop and a small hand crank generator you could take back tons of information on thumb drives.



This man is a genius

Only if he used a camping solar panel instead of a generator.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:27:58 PM EDT

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True, but it's subject to failure and can only be used one thing at a time. Paper is probably much more viable given how long it will take to disseminate and share that information without the laptop getting stolen, broken, destroyed or just wearing out.
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Why's it crispy?
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Originally Posted By swingset:

87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working on macht schnell.



Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.




Why's it crispy?




 
I like to start with a clean palette.
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87 pounds of tannerite.
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And be real sad to learn that the firearms of that era lacked the necessary velocity to detonate it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:30:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swingset:
87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working onmacht schnell.

Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.
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This.

I'd cut down on the books just enough to bring a modern firearm and a few reloads, a canteen and canteen cup, plus a poncho and liner. You never know where you will end up.

I'd be happy with a pistol. A .38 would be fine.
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Solar calculators and penicillin feed stock.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:31:15 PM EDT
Time machines kill hard drives and flash memory.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:39:23 PM EDT
A good scoped rifle and a copy of Lincoln's presidential history and travel arrangements from 1860.

And an eink based device with blueprints for every major invention (and a full dump of patent applications) of the late 19th early 20th century, along with a hand generator.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:39:34 PM EDT
Take an AR and ammo to Gettysburg and tell Lee DON'T CHARGE THE HILL YOU FUCKING IDIOT OR I'M SHOOTING YOU


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  I like to start with a clean palette.
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Originally Posted By swingset:
87lbs of scientific, medical, military and industrial publications that cover most of the shit 1860 folks need to get working on macht schnell.

Also, a good crisp copy of the June, 1992 issue of Hustler.


Why's it crispy?

  I like to start with a clean palette.

If it's already crispy, I doesn't sound very clean.
Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:40:41 PM EDT

If I went back to 1860 with 50lbs of books I'd have the electrical grid built by 1870. . Internal combustion engines by 1875. Mechanized warfare by 1872. And atom bombs ready for WWI. We would have been in space by 1928. Moon colony by 1951. Mars colony by 1960. Alien contact by 1975. Interstellar travel by 1986. Singularity harnesses by 1999. Accidental cosmological constant shift in 2008. Collapse into a single spacepoint.

You guys are lucky.



Link Posted: 2/23/2016 11:44:36 PM EDT
87 pounds of  1 carat  cubic zirconium  diamonds ...   in 1860         they will be treated as real.......    instant millionaire
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Originally Posted By GhettoCowboy:

If I went back to 1860 with 50lbs of books I'd have the electrical grid built by 1870. . Internal combustion engines by 1875. Mechanized warfare by 1872. And atom bombs ready for WWI. We would have been in space by 1928. Moon colony by 1951. Mars colony by 1960. Alien contact by 1975. Interstellar travel by 1986. Singularity harnesses by 1999. Accidental cosmological constant shift in 2008. Collapse into a single spacepoint.

You guys are lucky.



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Would we still have Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus?
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