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Posted: 10/30/2013 4:29:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2013 4:30:42 AM EST by usptac]
..and yes, bold title is bold. Now that we've covered that base, here we go..

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..In health care we have had very material improvements in technology -- whether it be pacemakers, diagnostics such as MRI and Ultrasound machines, tests of various sorts and similar.

But in Health Care costs have risen at an outrageous rate for so-called "similar" capabilities rather than both price coming down and capability going up.

Why?

Simple -- monopoly controls by the various providers.

Steve Liesman is once again saying that "the reason we have rising costs is that we're living longer."

Horse****.

The reason we have rising costs is that the companies involved in providing these technologies have constructed a business model predicated on extracting the maximum amount of money from the economy and they are prohibiting the usual economic forces that result in price collapses as technology improves from occurring by imposing force on you via government.
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We will not solve the medical cost problem until we stop protecting and outright enabling monopolies in medicine. In virtually every other line of work anti-trust law says that such acts are felonies, but in medicine they're why you spend ten times what you should on health care.
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Link Posted: 10/30/2013 4:42:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/30/2013 6:05:51 AM EST by FlyingIllini]
Yeah that and the fucked up cost shifting.
Link Posted: 10/30/2013 4:42:39 AM EST
Wow, sounds like the .gov should step in a do something about that!

Those terrible capitalist at it again.
Link Posted: 10/30/2013 5:18:49 AM EST
More..

Truth To Go With The Health Hearing Today

..The closest plan is $286.67 a month, or more than 189% more. This woman will pay $3,440 for her coverage, but the price pre-Obamacare is $1,189. Again, if she uses the policy she will spend $1,200 more on deductibles, but under Obamacare she will spend $2,251 more on premiums and thus she will lose $1,000 if she needs health care.

That means the 27 year old woman will spend 44% more under Obamacare if she uses health care and a stunning 189% more if she is healthy and does not need to use health care during that year.

Savings? Where?

These are actual policies you can check on your own at ehealthinsurance.com -- this entire act is a raw example of financial rape that outright screws essentially everyone.

The only people who will "win" are those who get subsidies. But stealing from one person to give to another doesn't lower cost as you can see, it in fact raises cost because you have connected demand to an infinite source of money!

As such only unsubsidized comparisons of price are valid, and when you look there what you find is that Obamacare is an outright disaster -- for everyone.
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Link Posted: 10/30/2013 5:27:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MultipleFractures:
Wow, sounds like the .gov should step in a do something about that!

Those terrible capitalist at it again.
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The government did do something about it. It's the government's fault those monopolies exist.

Big Business is indistinguishible from Big Socialism. The insurance companies bought and paid for the government rules that ensure their survival and profits. It's like that in a lot of industries in one way or another.

Do you know why the individual mandate won't be delayed? Because the insurance companies that support Obamacare (they make more money if people are forced to buy insurance) have said it would hurt their profits if it is delayed. Know why that idiotic medical device tax won't be repealed? Because the medical device industry didn't want to get on board the Obamacare train.

Go work at a small business trying to play with the big boys and you'll see how much big government can be on their side. Compliance costs hurt.
Link Posted: 10/30/2013 5:33:03 AM EST
Like someone said, we have had Socialized medicine for a while and that pushed up costs to the person that pays. Now we are forcing everyone to enter the Socialized system to reduce the costs caused by our Socialized system.
Link Posted: 10/30/2013 5:38:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By gunham:
Like someone said, we have had Socialized medicine for a while and that pushed up costs to the person that pays. Now we are forcing everyone to enter the Socialized system to reduce the costs caused by our Socialized system.
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It's about stealing more, not costing less.
Link Posted: 10/30/2013 5:54:09 AM EST
do you mean for eg., a person is prevented by the gov and ins. thieves from shopping for ins. policies in another state?
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