Rant.

I've been working on an international relations degree for the last couple-three years.  My area of concentration is Eastern Europe with some China sprinkled in for flavor.  Needless to say, I've had quite a bit of learnin' on communism.  And I still sometimes just get overwhelmed with anger at those fuckers.

The Soviet Union was designed from the get-go to do one thing: export communism.  Every part of Soviet society was geared towards this goal.  Their strategy went thru three basic stages:

1. (Lenin) "Insurrectionism"-building commie infrastructure in Western nations in order to destabilize governments and bring about a new socialistic world order.

2. (Stalin) Direct conquest-buddied up with Hitler and took Finland, Poland.  Took Eastern Europe after the war and constantly schemed to overrun Western Europe.  Until they figured out what exactly "nuclear holocaust" meant.  (Took them a while-commies are stupid.)

3. (Post-Stalin) MAD means no armored divisions thru the Fulda Gap.  So they turn to a policy of fomenting low-intensity conflict in the Third World.

Who killed 60k Americans Vietnam and 50k some in Korea?  Commies.
Who hosted the first international conference of "liberation movements" (read terrorists)?  Commies.
Who wrote the first terrorist training manuals and established the first training camps?  Commies.
Who armed every tinpot cocksucker in a country where the water will give you the shits? Commies.
Who trained up Yassir Arafat?  Commies.
Who undermined the Afghan government and then invaded to prop it up, creating OBL?  Commies.
Who started the rumor in Africa that AIDS was an American biological weapon?  Commies.
Who organized the "People's Peace Congress" type gatherings in the '60s, leading directly to the American left of today?  Commies.

I could go on.

I know this isn't news to most of you, but I think we just tend to forget how bad those cocksucking commie bastards fucked up our world.  Does anybody know where I can find a "I'd rather be killing Communists" bumper-sticker?  I've looked all over.

OK, I'm done.

What gets me...

1. We have a large group of folks in this country that believe in Soviet Style Socialism.. < Knowing or unknowingly>

2. I don't expect to see it being turned around in my life time.

3. Like a dog chasing its tail... History repeats itself...

Quoted: buddied up with Hitler and took Finland

Wow, that UVA education kicks ass!!!

VT grad here...

Fucking right commies should do us all a favor and just stop breathing.

Mr. President, I smell a big commie rat!

We could lose the cold war yet.

Unpoped corn kernels at the bottom of the bag! That really pisses me off.
Chi-comm bastards!

I kinda like how they seperate different ideas in a sentence but to each his own.

Quoted: Quoted: buddied up with Hitler and took Finland Wow, that UVA education kicks ass!!! VT grad here...

Well, they took a big chunk of Finland and couldn't have done it without the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.  They would have taken the whole thing if the Finns weren't such tough bastards.

I like Tech.  Used to go down there and get all fucked up.  I'm too old for the school rivalry thing.  What year'd you come out of there?

Quoted: What gets me... 1. We have a large group of folks in this country that believe in Soviet Style Socialism.. < Knowing or unknowingly>

I disagree.  They don't desire Soviet Style Socialism.  They desire politboro style power.  Most educated leftists simply desire to artifically remove themselves from their lowly spot on the societal hierarchy, and place themselves at the pinnacle.  It's a superiority issue, as no leftist would ever think of putting themselves in a line for healthcare services, that's for you, not them.

I disagree with, but don' t mind liberals.  However I dispise leftists for this very reason.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: buddied up with Hitler and took Finland Wow, that UVA education kicks ass!!! VT grad here... Well, they took a big chunk of Finland and couldn't have done it without the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.  They would have taken the whole thing if the Finns weren't such tough bastards. I like Tech.  Used to go down there and get all fucked up.  I'm too old for the school rivalry thing.  What year'd you come out of there?

1992

My comment was also specific to Hitler.  He hardly buddied up to Stalin, and if one says that he did, the Roosevelt was a homo for him...

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: buddied up with Hitler and took Finland Wow, that UVA education kicks ass!!! VT grad here... Well, they took a big chunk of Finland and couldn't have done it without the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.  They would have taken the whole thing if the Finns weren't such tough bastards. I like Tech.  Used to go down there and get all fucked up.  I'm too old for the school rivalry thing.  What year'd you come out of there? 1992 My comment was also also specific to Hitler.  He hardly buddied up to Stalin, and if one says that he did, the Roosevelt was a homo for him...

Before Operation Barbarossa Hitler and Stalin were de facto allies.  Oh, I see what you're saying, Hitler didn't exactly buddy up with Stalin.  I'm just saying Stalin thought he'd buddied up with Hitler.  And if Hitler had been smart enough to keep it that way we'd all be living under the Reich.

The fucking Government should have listened to General Patton in 1945. We wouldn't be having this discussion now.

Quoted: Fucking right commies should do us all a favor and just stop breathing.

ill second that

Forget commies, I hate the rop.

Quoted: Forget commies, I hate the rop.

Yeah, but if it weren't for the Commies, we wouldn't have had to overthrow Mossadegh in Iran in the '50s so the Iranians wouldn't hate us, we wouldn't have had to prop up the Saudis, we wouldn't have had jihadists in Afghanistan that grew into AQ, nobody would have sold the Arabs enough advanced weapons to make them think they had a chance at Israel so Palestine wouldn't have become the radicalizing rally cry it's been for the last 40 years...

World Communism has killed !200 million people, and those are not including death trolls during war time, just simple rounding up 'dissidents', unwanted peoples, etc, and executing them.

You do realise this is 2005 right? This aint 1960. Our side won, get over it! You're rant sounded more like a nostalgic love letter. Like you want'em to come back to give you a concrete enemy to hate instead of this amorphous "Terrorism".

Also that list of Grievences is kinda inaccurate. A lot of the things you listed we did also. We propped every tinpot dictator in Latin America except Cuba (oh no wait what about Batista), and Nicargua.
" Who killed 60k Americans Vietnam and 50k some in Korea? Commies."
Well if it makes you feel any better, for every American they killed we killed like 50 of them.

Who undermined the Afghan government and then invaded to prop it up, creating OBL? Commies.

I have to disagree with you on this. The Muslim world has been building up to this for 100 years. OBL is still steamed that in 1492 Granada fell to the Christians and in 1914 the Ottomans were bitch slapped. they have always hated us but without oil money (prior to 20 th century) they could'nt do shit about it. The Afghanistan war is just a foot note in the 1400 YO Islamic "jihad"


my sentiment is this-

Forget commies, I hate the rop.

Quoted: You do realise this is 2005 right? This aint 1960. Our side won, get over it! You're rant sounded more like a nostalgic love letter. Like you want'em to come back to give you a concrete enemy to hate instead of this amorphous "Terrorism".

I dig that it's a new war.  I can still bitch about what I feel are some of the root causes.

Also that list of Grievences is kinda inaccurate. A lot of the things you listed we did also. We propped every tinpot dictator in Latin America except Cuba (oh no wait what about Batista), and Nicargua.

yeah, but why?  I mean, sure, business had an impact.  But the interests of the US government and US businesses were the same-to keep out the commies.  The reason we had to prop up tinpot dictators in Latin America and everywhere else is that there was a concerted, persistent campaign to install governments in those countries that would provide Mahanian power bases for a global commie empire.  That led to the mantra of the Cold War-"He may be a bastard, but at least he's our bastard."

" Who killed 60k Americans Vietnam and 50k some in Korea? Commies." Well if it makes you feel any better, for every American they killed we killed like 50 of them.

Doesn't make me feel better.  I mean, I'd rather we hadn't had to go there in the first place.

Who undermined the Afghan government and then invaded to prop it up, creating OBL? Commies.

I have to disagree with you on this. The Muslim world has been building up to this for 100 years. OBL is still steamed that in 1492 Granada fell to the Christians and in 1914 the Ottomans were bitch slapped. they have always hated us but without oil money (prior to 20 th century) they could'nt do shit about it. The Afghanistan war is just a foot note in the 1400 YO Islamic "jihad"

my sentiment is this-

Forget commies, I hate the rop.

I understand your sentiment.  And I somewhat agree that portions of the Muslim world have been building up to this for some time.  But regardless of whether or not and to what extent that's true, Islamic fundamentalism had to find the opportunity and capability to organize and flourish.  The actions of the Soviet Union provided them with that opportunity.  If we hadn't had to spend the last half of the 20th century propping up people like the Shah and Mubarak and the Saudi royal family, regimes that oppressed their population while keeping them ignorant and in poverty, there wouldn't have been so much of a motivated base for the Islamists to tap.

You need a "Kill a Commie for Mommy" bumper sticker.  Seems like I remember seeing those about a billion years ago.

"The only good Red is a dead Red."

I find it highly annoying that high school and college kid glamorize Che Guevera with the Che t-shirts.  They obviously don't realize that he and other insurgents world wide were/are responsible for many atrocities and deaths all in the name of communism.  So, I'm going ot get myself a Che t-shirt and paint little a red "X" over each eye, a little red tongue hangin out,a nd the above slogan.

Quoted: Before Operation Barbarossa Hitler and Stalin were de facto allies.  Oh, I see what you're saying, Hitler didn't exactly buddy up with Stalin.  I'm just saying Stalin thought he'd buddied up with Hitler.  And if Hitler had been smart enough to keep it that way we'd all be living under the Reich.

Not exactly true.  Both Hitler and Stalin distrusted one another but signed the pact because both needed more time.  Hitler wanted to conquere Western Europe first (a goal that fell apart after operation Lion was shelved) and Stalin needed time because he purged his officer corp several years earlier.  When Churchill told Stalin that Hitler was planning Barbarosa, Stalin didn't believe him only because he thought he had another year at least before the inevitable showdown with Hitler.

Oh, and go UVA.  UVA law grad here, class of 2003.  

Quoted: Quoted: Before Operation Barbarossa Hitler and Stalin were de facto allies.  Oh, I see what you're saying, Hitler didn't exactly buddy up with Stalin.  I'm just saying Stalin thought he'd buddied up with Hitler.  And if Hitler had been smart enough to keep it that way we'd all be living under the Reich. Not exactly true.  Both Hitler and Stalin distrusted one another but signed the pact because both needed more time.  Hitler wanted to conquere Western Europe first (a goal that fell apart after operation Lion was shelved) and Stalin needed time because he purged his officer corp several years earlier.  When Churchill told Stalin that Hitler was planning Barbarosa, Stalin didn't believe him only because he thought he had another year at least before the inevitable showdown with Hitler. Oh, and go UVA.  UVA law grad here, class of 2003.

Well, I guess I'm defending what was initially intended as an expedient turn of phrase.  I never meant to imply that Hitler and Stalin would meet for tea and cookies.

Jane Fonda gets on her knees and prays for communism every day.  


Because she's ....  you know....  smarter than us.

Quoted: The fucking Government should have listened to General Patton in 1945. We wouldn't be having this discussion now.

One of the greatest contemporary minds ever. That sumbitch would have been an excellent POTUS.

"You know who I hate? Commies."



Red Forman?  Is that you?

"Your Commie has no respect for human life...not even his own."

General Jack D. Ripper

Commies ............... They're everywhere.

I hate Commies.

Quoted: Who armed every tinpot cocksucker in a country where the water will give you the shits? Commies.

To be fair - we did plenty of that ourselves.

Who trained up Yassir Arafat?  Commies.

Yep then we barnkroll him that still burns me up.

Quoted: Quoted: You do realise this is 2005 right? This aint 1960. Our side won, get over it! You're rant sounded more like a nostalgic love letter. Like you want'em to come back to give you a concrete enemy to hate instead of this amorphous "Terrorism". Also that list of Grievences is kinda inaccurate. A lot of the things you listed we did also. We propped every tinpot dictator in Latin America except Cuba (oh no wait what about Batista), and Nicargua. " Who killed 60k Americans Vietnam and 50k some in Korea? Commies." Well if it makes you feel any better, for every American they killed we killed like 50 of them. There's just a little problem.  The democrats are now bolder with the class warfare, the hated of the rich and free government promises than they've ever been in the past. Free prescription drugs for seniors?Republicans  Universal medical care?  The government actively manipulating the economy?Republicans (Greenspan) The Democratic platform should read as this: 1) Get out of the way of the free market and let it do what it does best. 2) Punish criminals when they commit crimes. The Democrats have played on the havoc created by Enron et al and built a platform around demonizing the rich and supposedly protecting the little man.  The '04 platform blabs on for 43 pages, when it could be less than 10.

There fixed it for you.  

Look for a communist revival in the American youth.

"Let's take the rich guy's stuff!  Nevermind what happens when that runs out!"

Quoted: Quoted: Who armed every tinpot cocksucker in a country where the water will give you the shits? Commies. To be fair - we did plenty of that ourselves.

I don't know about plenty.  I don't see any national flags with silhouettes of M-16s.  And the arming we did do was, as I've pointed out, in response to commie insurgencies.