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Posted: 3/1/2006 4:39:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:05:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 12:06:05 PM EDT by sherrick13]
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:07:11 PM EDT
Somebody special got through with special treatment.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:07:12 PM EDT
Alright Sherrick, that was a very nice story.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:16:52 PM EDT
who was it?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:18:25 PM EDT
being that we are not "dignitaries"....more like "dingleberrys" we would be searched.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:33:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:47:22 PM EDT
Everyone hates security until it fails..........

Then, everyone screams that we didn't do our jobs.....

Even though our jobs may mean
slightly infringing upon your free walk to the plane.......

Or whatever.

TSA is a bad idea, born by (D)s and, forced upon (R)s...

But, what it really is ...Americans can't be bothered with security.

We have shit to DO! GTF outta my way!

Every American thinks they are the most important person in the damn world.

The only job function security has in the US is scapegoating when shit goes bad because nobody bothered with security regs.

Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:51:30 PM EDT
His name was Robert Paulsen.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:55:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
Everyone hates security until it fails..........

Then, everyone screams that we didn't do our jobs.....

Even though our jobs may mean
slightly infringing upon your free walk to the plane.......

Or whatever.

TSA is a bad idea, born by (D)s and, forced upon (R)s...

But, what it really is ...Americans can't be bothered with security.

We have shit to DO! GTF outta my way!

Every American thinks they are the most important person in the damn world.

The only job function security has in the US is scapegoating when shit goes bad because nobody bothered with security regs.




I don't mind security, it's the windowdressing "security" that pisses me off. Start hassling the illegals, green card holders, and foreign tourist first and screw with Americans last. You would think that my .mil top secret clearance would carry over and they would waste time on ol Achmed instead of me, but no, that might make ol Achmed uncomfortable.



Link Posted: 3/1/2006 12:58:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
I was assigned dignitary protection for a person the last couple of days. I had to put him on the airplane and it was absolutely painless. Quickly through security for him. I didn't have to go through any checks and carried my weapon all the way to the plane. I was very impressed.

I still think the random extra level checks (I think it is if you have a "D" on your ticket) are a waste of time.




The next time I am flying out of OKC, you are my escort....
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:00:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherrick13:


I still think the random extra level checks (I think it is if you have a "D" on your ticket) are a waste of time.



Yep. I had a D on my ticket the last time I flew and I got all sorts of special treatment.

At least the wand was warm.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:04:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
Everyone hates security until it fails..........

Then, everyone screams that we didn't do our jobs.....

Even though our jobs may mean
slightly infringing upon your free walk to the plane.......

Or whatever.

TSA is a bad idea, born by (D)s and, forced upon (R)s...

But, what it really is ...Americans can't be bothered with security.

We have shit to DO! GTF outta my way!

Every American thinks they are the most important person in the damn world.

The only job function security has in the US is scapegoating when shit goes bad because nobody bothered with security regs.




I don't mind security, it's the windowdressing "security" that pisses me off. Start hassling the illegals, green card holders, and foreign tourist first and screw with Americans last. You would think that my .mil top secret clearance would carry over and they would waste time on ol Achmed instead of me, but no, that might make ol Achmed uncomfortable.






Now transpose that to a security guy...He has no idea WTF you are..Ok..Maybe you're a big wheel.........he doesn't know.

You are transposeing alot of your frustration on guys that have no control over their SOPs.

Dude...I've been flying for a LIVING pre and post 9/11. I get checked EVERY time...EVERY where........You'd THINK they'd keep track...They don't.

I'm nice, polite, adhere to regulations, and, I speed right through. I recite FAA regs to the screeners and, we both have a laugh and, I do my thing.

"Do what ya gotta do" is my stock response.

I guess I just conform to speed my way through security and don't get mad about stupid stuff.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:35:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
Everyone hates security until it fails..........

Then, everyone screams that we didn't do our jobs.....

Even though our jobs may mean
slightly infringing upon your free walk to the plane.......

Or whatever.

TSA is a bad idea, born by (D)s and, forced upon (R)s...

But, what it really is ...Americans can't be bothered with security.

We have shit to DO! GTF outta my way!

Every American thinks they are the most important person in the damn world.

The only job function security has in the US is scapegoating when shit goes bad because nobody bothered with security regs.




I don't mind security, it's the windowdressing "security" that pisses me off. Start hassling the illegals, green card holders, and foreign tourist first and screw with Americans last. You would think that my .mil top secret clearance would carry over and they would waste time on ol Achmed instead of me, but no, that might make ol Achmed uncomfortable.






Now transpose that to a security guy...He has no idea WTF you are..Ok..Maybe you're a big wheel.........he doesn't know.

You are transposeing alot of your frustration on guys that have no control over their SOPs.

Dude...I've been flying for a LIVING pre and post 9/11. I get checked EVERY time...EVERY where........You'd THINK they'd keep track...They don't.

I'm nice, polite, adhere to regulations, and, I speed right through. I recite FAA regs to the screeners and, we both have a laugh and, I do my thing.

"Do what ya gotta do" is my stock response.

I guess I just conform to speed my way through security and don't get mad about stupid stuff.



I am certainly no big wig. I only fly 3-4 times per year and am rather pleasant about the entire thing. The "pisses me off" is more a statement of frustration that how I act at the airport. I too smile and go right through.


The trusted traveler thing is agravating since it is outsourced to a private company and cost $100 or so a year....after the .mil spent $$$ clearing me while on AD. Another case of left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

Bring on the profiling!!!! Last I heard, the Amish and Mormons had been cleared, and they think the terrorists are .......young male muslims....
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:37:05 PM EDT
If you don't mind me asking -- are you DSS?
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 1:39:37 PM EDT

dignitary protection


All I needed to read.
Until one of us peons had regular stories like that, I won't like TSA.
Actuually, I'll never like TSA.
They give a "sense" of safety.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:25:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
Everyone hates security until it fails..........

Then, everyone screams that we didn't do our jobs.....

Even though our jobs may mean
slightly infringing upon your free walk to the plane.......

Or whatever.

TSA is a bad idea, born by (D)s and, forced upon (R)s...

But, what it really is ...Americans can't be bothered with security.

We have shit to DO! GTF outta my way!

Every American thinks they are the most important person in the damn world.

The only job function security has in the US is scapegoating when shit goes bad because nobody bothered with security regs.




I don't mind security, it's the windowdressing "security" that pisses me off. Start hassling the illegals, green card holders, and foreign tourist first and screw with Americans last. You would think that my .mil top secret clearance would carry over and they would waste time on ol Achmed instead of me, but no, that might make ol Achmed uncomfortable.






Now transpose that to a security guy...He has no idea WTF you are..Ok..Maybe you're a big wheel.........he doesn't know.

You are transposeing alot of your frustration on guys that have no control over their SOPs.

Dude...I've been flying for a LIVING pre and post 9/11. I get checked EVERY time...EVERY where........You'd THINK they'd keep track...They don't.

I'm nice, polite, adhere to regulations, and, I speed right through. I recite FAA regs to the screeners and, we both have a laugh and, I do my thing.

"Do what ya gotta do" is my stock response.

I guess I just conform to speed my way through security and don't get mad about stupid stuff.



If they kept track to ensure speedy passing for regular flyers think of all the people complaining that they are keeping records on ordinary citizens.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:57:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2006 5:58:02 PM EDT by sherrick13]
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 5:58:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:14:25 PM EDT
If you have SSS on the corner of your ticket, prepare to drop trow. A sure way to make this happen is to purchase a ticket within a week of a flight. I have it everytime i fly for work and purchase tickets close to my flight date, but if i have a trip planned in advance i usually do not get it. I believe that other things may earn you this wonderfully relaxing pre-flight adventure, but cannot narrow down any suspects.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 6:48:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
At least I got some discussion going.
He had to go through security just like everyone else. However it was at a different checkpoint.
I however did not.

I'd rather not say who it was but there have been threats on him. Now tell me, would you want a well known person that might have a hit put on them standing next to your daughter or wife in the checkpoint line? Or go through to a special gate and get them out of the area? Hmmmmm..???


Some people are rich, famous or powerful. They will get special treatment in this world. Life is not fair. Get over it.




I know who it was, the CEO of Krispy Kreme........
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:00:52 PM EDT
Meh, if they wanted to make the flights safer, they'd issue everyone a Ka-Bar at check-in.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:07:56 PM EDT
FWIW,

I don't like when fellow servicemen play the "I'm .mil, see my ID card, I'm good to go, I have my TS, blah blah blah."

You know what, there are tons of people that slip through the cracks and end up wearing the uniform. I've known more than my share of idiots/scumbags. Remember Tim McVeigh? Yeah, he was in the Army. Yes its an extreme example and I realize he wasn't on active duty when he bombed the Federal Building in OKC, but the fact is, he served.

No one wants to get checked 4 or 5 times before stepping on the jet, but you know what? It's something we need to live with now. The only way to even come close to ensuring safety is to check EVERY person and ALL their belongings. Until that happens, the chance for something happening will always be present. It may be extremely slight, but it is there for every flight.

I was talking to an airline pilot about airline security, and he hated the fact that he'd get waived past the x-ray machine or whatever. His rationale was even he should be subjet to being searched. Badges can be faked. You could name a thousand reasons. There have been honest people that have done evil things for money.

No one is above being checked before boarding. If you honestly feel like you're being singled out because you were "inconvenienced" then, well, whatever. It's something we must accept.

Sherrick, I'm in no way directing this post towards you. I just don't care for other people's attitudes at airports when they complain about certain policies.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:19:09 PM EDT
Some small airports have security to go through before you get on the ramp. One time my wife had a small knife is her purse, and security said she had to "check it with the captain". Once we got through security, the "captain" (me) gave her back her knife, much to their chagrin.

If they only knew there was a loaded Glock 32 under the front seat of the plane.....legally.
Link Posted: 3/1/2006 7:21:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
FWIW,

I don't like when fellow servicemen play the "I'm .mil, see my ID card, I'm good to go, I have my TS, blah blah blah."

You know what, there are tons of people that slip through the cracks and end up wearing the uniform. I've known more than my share of idiots/scumbags. Remember Tim McVeigh? Yeah, he was in the Army. Yes its an extreme example and I realize he wasn't on active duty when he bombed the Federal Building in OKC, but the fact is, he served.

No one wants to get checked 4 or 5 times before stepping on the jet, but you know what? It's something we need to live with now. The only way to even come close to ensuring safety is to check EVERY person and ALL their belongings. Until that happens, the chance for something happening will always be present. It may be extremely slight, but it is there for every flight.

I was talking to an airline pilot about airline security, and he hated the fact that he'd get waived past the x-ray machine or whatever. His rationale was even he should be subjet to being searched. Badges can be faked. You could name a thousand reasons. There have been honest people that have done evil things for money.

No one is above being checked before boarding. If you honestly feel like you're being singled out because you were "inconvenienced" then, well, whatever. It's something we must accept.

Sherrick, I'm in no way directing this post towards you. I just don't care for other people's attitudes at airports when they complain about certain policies.



And yet most baggage handlers get on the ramp unchecked.....
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