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Posted: 8/2/2011 11:20:04 AM EDT
Maelstrom S18



The Maelstrom S18 is a veritable hand-held spotlight that features 4Sevens' unique thermal regulation and a blistering high output of 1200 OTF lumens.








This is not the sort of light you mount on a gun.

This is the sort of light you attach a firearm to.

Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:23:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Do want.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:23:48 AM EDT
[#2]
I need one!
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:26:15 AM EDT
[#3]
Oh my...
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:26:17 AM EDT
[#4]

It makes me hot...




Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:27:28 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm really temped by the 123 Turbo X, but can't justify dropping $90+ on another light right now.

4sevens smokes Surefire when it comes to high output/ high quality at a much lower price point.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:30:46 AM EDT
[#6]
Beamshots damnit!
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:31:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Weapon mount?
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:33:10 AM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:34:00 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Weapon mount?


If you look closely, you can see it just to the left of the center of the nose






 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:37:24 AM EDT
[#10]
New moon? Not anymore, bitches!
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:37:59 AM EDT
[#11]
1200 lumens?

A mere toy compared to this:

Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:38:10 AM EDT
[#12]
What's the battery life / run-time on something like that?
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:38:22 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Surefire Beast > *


$4800??? um...no.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:39:20 AM EDT
[#14]

.





Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:39:28 AM EDT
[#15]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofeAcp1gjU&feature=player_embedded

Check out the strobe mode at a little after the 5 minute mark...
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:40:19 AM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:41:14 AM EDT
[#17]
Looks nice.  I'll wait for something similar at about half the price point, though.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:41:46 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
1200 lumens?

A mere toy compared to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKzrnKR3Ts


Nice tap dancing.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:42:13 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What's the battery life / run-time on something like that?


Probably 30 seconds or so - but they're the best-lit 30 seconds you'll ever see!


0.6 hours on high, 17.5 hours at 80 lumens.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:43:21 AM EDT
[#20]
Can that be seen on the moon?
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:44:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Battery drain is measured in seconds, still if it were cheaper I'd rock it. You can't ever have too much light....
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:44:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Why the fuck didn't I know about 4Sevens before I got an E2D?
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:45:07 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What's the battery life / run-time on something like that?


Probably 30 seconds or so - but they're the best-lit 30 seconds you'll ever see!


30-min according to the link...
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:46:31 AM EDT
[#24]




Quoted:

Can that be seen on the moon?




Hell yes....you can even climb up the beam.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:49:22 AM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

What's the battery life / run-time on something like that?





Probably 30 seconds or so - but they're the best-lit 30 seconds you'll ever see!




30-min according to the link...


Plus the batteries it uses are rechargeable.
 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:50:58 AM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofeAcp1gjU&feature=player_embedded



Check out the strobe mode at a little after the 5 minute mark...


I bet the strobe is more impressive in real life. The camera probably had trouble shooting it.
 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 11:53:12 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:

Quoted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofeAcp1gjU&feature=player_embedded

Check out the strobe mode at a little after the 5 minute mark...

I bet the strobe is more impressive in real life. The camera probably had trouble shooting it.
 


Yep. That would be disorienting as hell.

Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:01:13 PM EDT
[#28]
These are good days for flashlight fans.  They just keep getting better and better.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:01:46 PM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:06:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Look at the data sheet for that LED: http://www.luminus.com/products/datasheets/Luminus_SST-90-W_Datasheet.pdf

That's an amazing current density when it's running at a max 9.0A with a forward junction voltage of 3.87V. You're talking about dissipating 30-40W of power from a tiny surface area. It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.


Thermal management has gotta be a challenge, nice low theta j-c, but still...

Would be nice if he'd do a run of 3500K warm whites, better CRI, not as much light but still crazy bright
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:07:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Look at the data sheet for that LED: http://www.luminus.com/products/datasheets/Luminus_SST-90-W_Datasheet.pdf

That's an amazing current density when it's running at a max 9.0A with a forward junction voltage of 3.87V. You're talking about dissipating 30-40W of power from a tiny surface area. It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.


I was shocked when I looked and saw a single die.  I was expecting a half-dozen smaller CREE LEDs or some such.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:10:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Look at the data sheet for that LED: http://www.luminus.com/products/datasheets/Luminus_SST-90-W_Datasheet.pdf

That's an amazing current density when it's running at a max 9.0A with a forward junction voltage of 3.87V. You're talking about dissipating 30-40W of power from a tiny surface area. It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.


Thermal management has gotta be a challenge, nice low theta j-c, but still...

Would be nice if he'd do a run of 3500K warm whites, better CRI, not as much light but still crazy bright


My head is starting to feel like it does when I go to Candlepowerforums.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:13:08 PM EDT
[#33]





Quoted:





Quoted:


Look at the data sheet for that LED: http://www.luminus.com/products/datasheets/Luminus_SST-90-W_Datasheet.pdf





That's an amazing current density when it's running at a max 9.0A with a forward junction voltage of 3.87V. You're talking about dissipating 30-40W of power from a tiny surface area. It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.






Thermal management has gotta be a challenge, nice low theta j-c, but still...





Would be nice if he'd do a run of 3500K warm whites, better CRI, not as much light but still crazy bright



Look at the size of that light in the in hand photo... I bet it has a massive (copper most likely) heat sink in it.





The head probably gets warm, but I bet it does just fine.





Man, I'm almost glad I'm broke right now so I don't buy one, that really does look pretty sweet
 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:14:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Damn thing might toast my fire ant beds.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:19:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Do want.

My wife has a birthday coming up, maybe I should buy her one.

Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:20:57 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:


Look at the data sheet for that LED: http://www.luminus.com/products/datasheets/Luminus_SST-90-W_Datasheet.pdf



That's an amazing current density when it's running at a max 9.0A with a forward junction voltage of 3.87V. You're talking about dissipating 30-40W of power from a tiny surface area. It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.


It's been amazing to watch.  Every 6 months you turn around and there is a new "latest and greatest" and it just keeps getting more and more ass kicking.



I thought I was the coolest guy on the block in 2001 when I could whip out my little 5 lumen ARC-AAA.  Look everybody!  It fits right in my pocket!  It's bright!  It cost a bunch of money!



Today I can buy a light in the same form factor that will crush any production mag light and not put me in the poor house.
 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:26:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Once it gets under two bills I might just have to pick one up
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:27:30 PM EDT
[#38]
This may make me rethink the Fenix TK35 I was thinking about.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:33:35 PM EDT
[#39]





Quoted:



This may make me rethink the Fenix TK35 I was thinking about.



I have the TK40 and my biggest gripe is the UI.  Outside of that it has been a rockstar for me.





Some people love the UI, some people hate it.  I'm a hater.





 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:34:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:

It's crazy what they've accomplished with LEDs in the last few years.


Yeah it is . Think of what will be available in the next few .

At this rate , affordable laser weapons are just around the corner .


Makes ya wonder how the ATF will define/enforce 'geeks' making laser weapons once it's just a matter of soldering wires instead of needing a machine shop and metal-crafting skills like you need for conventional firearms .

Link Posted: 8/2/2011 12:55:07 PM EDT
[#41]
Not too big on the size. For that size I would expect 1500+ lumens. My TK35 is much smaller with 820 lumens.

That said ill probably still buy it because im a flashlight nerd.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:25:03 PM EDT
[#42]
I'll be ordering one in the next two weeks. No question. I will order up enough RCR123 rechargeables to run it as well. This light will be a lot of fun.

I have a TK40 and 35, but they are just little things compared to this light.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:27:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
I'll be ordering one in the next two weeks. No question. I will order up enough RCR123 rechargeables to run it as well. This light will be a lot of fun.

I have a TK40 and 35, but they are just little things compared to this light.


I'd like to here how they compare.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:30:09 PM EDT
[#44]



Quoted:



Quoted:

1200 lumens?



A mere toy compared to this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKzrnKR3Ts




Nice tap dancing.
It would suck if you accidentally clicked it on in your pocket.





 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:30:49 PM EDT
[#45]
How bright is that, exactly? How about a practical example?



I really don't know shit about flashlights.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:36:31 PM EDT
[#46]
Does anyone have a "candlepower" to "lumen" conversion?



Asked another way, how many candlepower is that light?  I have a 1,000,000 candlepower light that I bought 6-7 years ago that still works and it's bright as hell.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:39:16 PM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:


How bright is that, exactly? How about a practical example?



I really don't know shit about flashlights.


This bright! [spreads arms far apart]



 
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:41:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
1200 lumens?

A mere toy compared to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiKzrnKR3Ts


Nice tap dancing.
It would suck if you accidentally clicked it on in your pocket.

 


Ouch.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:42:03 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
How bright is that, exactly? How about a practical example?

I really don't know shit about flashlights.


A car head light on high would be a pretty close comparison, but I don't have real numbers on that. Just a guess.
Link Posted: 8/2/2011 3:42:07 PM EDT
[#50]



Quoted:


How bright is that, exactly? How about a practical example?



I really don't know shit about flashlights.


my 210 lumen 4sevens light is bright as fuck, can shoot at 100 yards at night with it



 
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