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Posted: 5/15/2002 12:02:43 PM EDT
[url]www.memri.org/news.html#1021410876[/url]
SD# 381 - Saudi Government Daily: "You [the U.S.] Will Vanish, But We Will Remain"

Dr. Mohammad T. Al Rasheed, a columnist for the Saudi government English daily The Saudi Gazette, responded to President Bush's demand that Arab leaders cease calling suicide bombers "martyrs." In an article titled "God Bless Our Martyrs," Dr. Al-Rasheed criticized the U.S. The following are excerpts from the column:


"The 'Dudn't' President Has Overstepped His Mark"


"Yes, those being mowed down in Palestine are MARTYRES [sic] to their cause, their honor, their dignity, their land, and their religion – the morons in Washington notwithstanding. We have had enough of double-dealing, double standards, double talk, and double acts on a lousy stage. The 'dudn't' President has overstepped his mark: he has given the green light for a massacre to commence conducted by the most brutal criminal this side of Caligula."


"A few weeks ago a couple in San Francisco were found guilty on behalf of their two dogs that mauled a neighbor to death. The same law is applicable to Bush and Sharon: the dog and its keeper. We do not need a Cicero to pontificate before a court for us to get a verdict. The issue is clear. We also cannot enter into high legal parlance or into philosophical argumentations. The dog and its keeper are not versed in this sort of dialogue. Nevertheless, let us try and simplify it enough for the keeper to understand why the world is not against dogs per se, but against his dog in particular..."

Link Posted: 5/15/2002 12:03:17 PM EDT
[#1]
"The Americans used to say that they do not have the power to curb or influence Israeli decisions, but every time they tell the Israelis to do something, the Israelis do it. How are we to square this circle? The world watches in horror, and we have Europeans now bellowing at America to do the basic decent things in life. The Europeans are not exactly Arabophiles, but they retain a semblance of their humanity yet..."


"...Fourteen hundred years ago, the second Khalif, Omar, entered Jerusalem and was invited by its archbishop to pray in [the] Nativity Church. He refused; not because he did not think it suitable, but because, as he put it, 'Muslims will want to build a mosque on the spot.' Sure enough, he prayed on an adjoining piece of land, where we now have Masjid Omar, the Mosque of Omar. That too was bombed and desecrated by the modern Hun."


"The progress of humanity seems far from inching its way to better human nature. Or is it simpler: we lack education about others, and an ingrained sense of respect for others and, more tragically, ourselves."


"A Billion of Muslims Are Being Turned into Raging Volcanoes"


"A billion of Muslims are being turned into raging volcanoes by this disrespect: Docile bookworms, redundant bureaucrats, pregnant women usually preoccupied with their pains, doctors busy cutting up humanity for repair work, and countless others usually preoccupied with their lives, are now seething. Is this sanity on the part of policy-makers ruling the world? Caligula's madness never really reached outside Rome itself for obvious reasons. Now CNN can deliver its warped audio-visual accounts to the world."


"Better still, others have learned the trick of the trade. Ironically enough, Caligula wandered too far in Palestine where angels feared to tread before him. He wanted the Jews to worship him in their temple..., the rest is history as they say. Can the 'dudn't' man be brought to read some of this history? Condowhatever Rice should bring some of those wonderful books published by Stanford for him to read. On a personal note, I am ashamed now to say that I went to the same university."


"Let us say it once and for all: We have nothing against Jews. This is a fact. We have nothing against any people for what they believe or how they believe. Those of us who do are interpreting Muslim scriptures as American fundamentalists are interpreting Christian scriptures. It is hard to believe the Pope, of the Vatican as an institution, endorses Jerry Falwell – just to give one example. But, like the French during Nazi occupation, the Russians against the French occupation, the Americans against the British occupation, we take issue with the occupier. Hence our sense of martyrdom."
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 12:03:47 PM EDT
[#2]
President Bush Should Read Arab History


"We also would wonder these days about our own sense of comprehension when we hear Bush telling the world that Arafat 'betrayed his people.' Who are you to issue such a judgment Mr. President? Who gave you the right to speak for the Palestinians, or any other people who are not Americans? They elected him, they support him, and now they are dying for him. That, I should think, is more than most of your people are willing to do for you. Your father, in his heyday, asked your nation to read his lips. Since reading is a family tradition with you, could we ask you to simply read our history before trying to rule over us?"


"You [The U.S.] Will Vanish, But We Will Remain"


"In case you do not have the time or stamina, let me tell you this: we are as old as the stone that Jesus walked on, pure as the water Muhammad was given to wash for prayer from, and severe as the laws Moses brought down from the Mount. You will vanish, but we will remain… the world will advance to oblivion, but our date palms and our olive trees will survive your nuclear bombs. And, somehow, something of us will remain. You have it written, not in Holy Scripture, but on the green back you so adore, especially on Christmas Eve: In God We Trust."(1)


Endnote:


(1) The Saudi Gazette, April 8, 2002.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 12:11:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2002 12:16:30 PM EDT
[#4]
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You will vanish, but we will remain… the world will advance to oblivion, but our date palms and our olive trees will survive your nuclear bombs. And, somehow, something of us will remain.  
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He just edited a line from "Joe's Apartment".

Yeah, it was a cockroach speaking.
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The whole article is a cockroach speaking....

Scott

Link Posted: 5/15/2002 12:36:44 PM EDT
[#5]
A Cowboy, a Indian, and a Moslem was sitting on a bench. The Indian say's we once were a proud people, many warriors, much power. The Moslem speak's up as say's we are a proud people, with many warriors and great power. The Cowboy takes his finger and pushes his hat back on his forehead and say's we ain't started playing Cowboy's and Moslems' yet.

[smoke]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 11:03:39 PM EDT
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A Cowboy, a Indian, and a Moslem was sitting on a bench. The Indian say's we once were a proud people, many warriors, much power. The Moslem speak's up as say's we are a proud people, with many warriors and great power. The Cowboy takes his finger and pushes his hat back on his forehead and say's we ain't started playing Cowboy's and Moslems' yet.

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That's the funniest thing I've read in a loooooooooooooooooong time!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 11:37:32 PM EDT
[#7]
What a crock of shit! Where do those morons come from anyway? Why is a Saudi refering to an occupation? Who the hell is occupying them? The last time I checked they were in charge there still. Had it not been for us they would have been occupied.....and by now a part of Iraq. And even the Palestineans would get their state and not be occupied if they would think with their heads and not their ass! I use to have some sympathy for these people....but over the past few years I have come to despise them, more than words can express. For the attitude and words that is coming out of Saudi Arabia, I would cut off all aid, military and otherwise and let them sit there in the sand. Start buying our oil from Russia and let their economy crash. That would give those ungreatful little punks an attitude adjustment. What they fail to realize is that without us, they are nothing.
Link Posted: 5/16/2002 12:00:36 AM EDT
[#8]
Hmm, let me do a little editing to make this more accurate:


"The [u]PLO[/u] used to say that they do not have the power to curb or influence [u]suicide bombers[/u], but every time they tell the [u]suicide bombers[/u] to do something, they do it. How are we to square this circle? The world watches in horror, and we have Europeans now bellowing at America to do the basic decent things in life [u]like ignoring the PLO hypocrisy[/u]. The Europeans [u]are[/u] Arabophiles [u]with morals so long decayed that they are now nonexistant[/u], but they retain a semblance of their humanity yet...[u]so we should do what they do[/u]"
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Does this camel loving bastard think we'll take him seriously because he knows who Cicero is?
Link Posted: 5/16/2002 12:39:01 AM EDT
[#9]
I think it's time for OPERATION SANDBOX ! I'm really tired of these TYRANTS who OPPRESS  their own people.They will someday rise up and legaly overthrow the Kings & other dictators .Perhaps an armed conflict for freedom? But no matter what, a DEMOCRACY must be established in the Muslem world to bring them out of the 7th century.
Link Posted: 5/16/2002 1:25:13 AM EDT
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I think it's time for OPERATION SANDBOX ! I'm really tired of these TYRANTS who OPPRESS  their own people.They will someday rise up and legaly overthrow the Kings & other dictators .Perhaps an armed conflict for freedom? But no matter what, a DEMOCRACY must be established in the Muslem world to bring them out of the 7th century.
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Democracy is hardly an answer to oppression. Just look what its doing for us gun owners? A system that allows the people in charge to care more about looking good and getting re-ellected then doing the right thing for the future of the people is hardly less worse.
Link Posted: 5/16/2002 2:09:27 AM EDT
[#11]
If only we would take in more foreign students to be educated here (like Dr. Al-Rasheed), they would understand us better and bring back that knowledge to their countries of origin. Oh wait, we've been doing that the whole time. [:(]

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What a crock of shit! Where do those morons come from anyway? Why is a Saudi refering to an occupation? Who the hell is occupying them? The last time I checked they were in charge there still.
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Because they are muslims and see an injury to muslims anywhere as an injury to themselves. Strangely, christians don't seem to be as worked up over muslim atrocities committed against christians around the world (West Africa, Nigeria, Sudan, Lebanon, the Balkans, the Caucasus, Philippines, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc, etc.).

Major muslim religious leaders also call for violence and outrageous behavior (witness the Saudi one who called for enslaving jewish women, recently posted here), while major Christian leaders repeat ad nauseam that violence doesn't solve anything and we must "turn the other cheek." An interesting contrast.
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