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Posted: 12/13/2013 6:44:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2013 6:45:19 PM EST by raven]
Less than a quarter—24%—of uninsured Americans think the health care law is a good idea, and half think it’s a bad idea, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Wednesday. That’s an 11-point dive in support from three months ago, when a September poll — before the troubled rollout of the HealthCare.gov marketplace –found that 35% of the uninsured thought it was a good idea, and 32% thought it was a bad idea.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:45:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2013 6:46:07 PM EST by Bigler]
Originally Posted By raven:
Less than a quarter—24%—of uninsured Americans think the health care law is a good idea, and half think it’s a bad idea, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Wednesday. That’s an 11-point dive in support from three months ago, when a September poll — before the troubled rollout of the HealthCare.gov marketplace –found that 35% of the uninsured thought it was a good idea, and 32% thought it was a bad idea.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/13/obamacare-has-lost-the-uninsured

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Huh?

Eta: it fixed itself
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:45:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/13/2013 6:46:33 PM EST by Dustrod]
Originally Posted By raven:
Less than a quarter—24%—of uninsured Americans think the health care law is a good idea, and half think it’s a bad idea, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Wednesday. That’s an 11-point dive in support from three months ago, when a September poll — before the troubled rollout of the HealthCare.gov marketplace –found that 35% of the uninsured thought it was a good idea, and 32% thought it was a bad idea.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/13/obamacare-has-lost-the-uninsured

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Failure. All around

ETA fixed itself
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:46:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By raven:
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Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:47:53 PM EST

A lot of people gambled that they would have good health, and the vast majority of them were right!

So now being required to buy insurance doesn't sit well with them.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:51:13 PM EST
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.




Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:56:00 PM EST
It isn't free like their community organizer told them it would be.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:08:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ar2de:
It isn't free like their community organizer told them it would be.
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Dear Leader lied when he said, "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?"
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:13:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By C-4:

A lot of people gambled that they would have good health, and the vast majority of them were right!

So now being required to buy insurance doesn't sit well with them.
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Or they have something less than what the Dear Leader considers 'Health Insurance'.

For instance, when I was in college, we had a Heath Services program. ~$100/month. You could go to our place for basically free, but it was only open limited hours. So you break your ankle... wait 'till Monday morning. (And I did). I doubt that would cut it under Obamacare. But with a healthy 18-22 year old? Ah... Duh.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:20:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.
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Imagine you are self-employed, young enough to risk no-insurance, but have enough money to pay for anything that is likely to come up. That does not make you a non-taxpayer. Free people are free to make their own decisions, accept their own responsibilities. Think it through.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:23:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 245PDG:


Imagine you are self-employed, young enough to risk no-insurance, but have enough money to pay for anything that is likely to come up. That does not make you a non-taxpayer. Free people are free to make their own decisions, accept their own responsibilities. Think it through.

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Originally Posted By 245PDG:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.


Imagine you are self-employed, young enough to risk no-insurance, but have enough money to pay for anything that is likely to come up. That does not make you a non-taxpayer. Free people are free to make their own decisions, accept their own responsibilities. Think it through.

That is so far from the avg 20 something in America, it barely deserves a reply.


Think it through?

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:27:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
That is so far from the avg 20 something in America, it barely deserves a reply.


Think it through?

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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By 245PDG:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.


Imagine you are self-employed, young enough to risk no-insurance, but have enough money to pay for anything that is likely to come up. That does not make you a non-taxpayer. Free people are free to make their own decisions, accept their own responsibilities. Think it through.

That is so far from the avg 20 something in America, it barely deserves a reply.


Think it through?



Today, maybe. When a lot of us grew up... Not really.

I switched jobs at 25. I was making very good money, but didn't qualify for health insurance through my new company for 6 months. I did not pay Cobra. It did not make sense.

This 'noone in their 20's can find a job' is really a fairly new phenomenon. And it's still not entirely true - but they have to have better qualifications or better luck today.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:27:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
That is so far from the avg 20 something in America, it barely deserves a reply.


Think it through?
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By 245PDG:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.


Imagine you are self-employed, young enough to risk no-insurance, but have enough money to pay for anything that is likely to come up. That does not make you a non-taxpayer. Free people are free to make their own decisions, accept their own responsibilities. Think it through.

That is so far from the avg 20 something in America, it barely deserves a reply.


Think it through?


People make different choices than you so you ridicule them? Nice.

What do you know about 20 something Americans? I am not one, but dazzle me with your knowledge stud.


Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:33:36 PM EST
Well, no shit. They're forcing us to buy shit we neither want or need. It's bad enough having to pay for other people's kids to go to school and pretend to get educated, now they're making me pay for their idiot parents to take them to the doctor every time they get the sniffles or their shit changes color.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:39:39 PM EST
They may not like it but they will vote for who ever the next D is running for president no matter what
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:50:45 PM EST
Most of them see that it actually cost $, and are like: waaaaa? It's not free? That's expensive! They will pay the fine and opt out. The whole thing is going to be a huge taxpayer funded fuckup.

I am hoping it is his legacy, as Iran is Jimmy's.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:59:45 PM EST
I'm a 20-something American and my companies healthcare costs went up for next year and the extra stipend they gave us for healthcare started getting taxed this year screwing me out of backpay they'd owed me. Obama! .
I can't say how most in my age group are doing, some are like me, graduated from college, moved back home, got mediocre jobs. Others scraped by highschool, got crappy jobs, faded away. Still others are super motivated, got great grades, knew what they wanted to do, got degrees, went to grad school, and got jobs in their fields or started businesses. The Obama-love seems to spread across all these groups to some degree. Between the overt growing support of socialist type ideals and vitriolic hatred towards the Right/Conservatives/Repubs in my age group I don't think them getting upset with Obamacare will translate into voting or thinking differently in the long run. I think they'll find more ways to blame the Right or Capitalism instead of facing the music. If North Koreans can defend the Juche ideaology and worship little little Kim apparently no level of social or economic destruction will necessarily break the stubborn "progressive" "left" whatever mindset.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:06:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Kinda funny.

The .gov is MAKING them spend their own money on something they don't want.

Even a little bit, for the first time is their lives.

haha, they don't seem to like that idea very much, do they?

Welcome to the world of taxpayers.
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why, that's nothing new, we are forced to pay for airforce one, pay for carriers, b2's, congress pay raise, some strangers' food stamp... all kinds of stuff we don't want, what can we do about it???
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