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Posted: 9/16/2009 3:29:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 3:31:50 AM EST by ChinoUSMC]


Yeah, I know it's Japanese, but hey, it actually worked.


Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:35:04 AM EST
Funnier'n hell!

BTW that is not Japanese, it is Korean I think.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:35:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:37:00 AM EST
That's pretty cool.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:37:39 AM EST
High and outside, not a strike.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:37:48 AM EST
Damn, you could park a bus in that ump's strike zone.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:38:38 AM EST
Liberal strike zone other there I seee.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:43:00 AM EST
No, ball must be delivered overhand with the pitcher facing batter if I remember correctly.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:47:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By PARover:
No, ball must be delivered overhand with the pitcher facing batter if I remember correctly.


By who's rules?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:49:31 AM EST
That's one big strike zone they have.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:49:45 AM EST
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 3:53:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 3:54:48 AM EST by ACOGless]
Originally Posted By PARover:
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.


You do realize that is not MLB?

Plus I don't see in here http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

And that would excluded submariners if they all had to be overhand.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:01:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.


You do realize that is not MLB?

Plus I don't see in here http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

And that would excluded submariners if they all had to be overhand.


Uh, yes I do, I need the "that's racist" pic...

MLB 8.05 f. The pitcher delivers the ball to the batter while he is not facing the batter;

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2008/official_rules/08_the_pitcher.pdf
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:09:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By PARover:
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.


You do realize that is not MLB?

Plus I don't see in here http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

And that would excluded submariners if they all had to be overhand.


Uh, yes I do, I need the "that's racist" pic...

MLB 8.05 f. The pitcher delivers the ball to the batter while he is not facing the batter;

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2008/official_rules/08_the_pitcher.pdf


Well I guess that would be up to the interpertation of the umpire but obvisouly they do not follw MLB rules, so to say it is illega,l one would have to know what association it is and the rules they adhere to. THat pitch used to be one of my backyard wiffle ball go-to's.

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:13:04 AM EST
Funny, staged, but funny.

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:20:25 AM EST
So underhand is accepted? May as well play softball...
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:23:59 AM EST
Batter was like "Lol Wut?"
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:24:19 AM EST
OMG a trick eephus pitch!
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:33:43 AM EST
In MLB the pitcher's hand is not allowed to be underneath the ball when thrown. I believe that is the "catch" in the rule. That's why submariners are allowed to throw like they do but softball style is not allowed.

I remember Kirby Puckett on Letterman one night. He was doing a wiffleball hitting demo with Dave pitching. Kirby told Dave not to throw it underhand since he can't hit those. He also said it didn't matter how hard Dave threw it, he could hit. Just always thought it was interesting such an accomplished hitter saying he has trouble hitting a slow toss underhand pitch.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:35:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.


You do realize that is not MLB?

Plus I don't see in here http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

And that would excluded submariners if they all had to be overhand.


Uh, yes I do, I need the "that's racist" pic...

MLB 8.05 f. The pitcher delivers the ball to the batter while he is not facing the batter;

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2008/official_rules/08_the_pitcher.pdf


Well I guess that would be up to the interpertation of the umpire but obvisouly they do not follw MLB rules, so to say it is illega,l one would have to know what association it is and the rules they adhere to. THat pitch used to be one of my backyard wiffle ball go-to's.




I think it would also run afould of this part also: "After assuming Set Position, any natural motion associated with his delivery of the ball to the batter commits him to the pitch without alteration or interruption."

It also looked like it was not his normal delivery. If it was his normal delivery, after seeing one pitch, any batter worth his salt would completely jack the next pitch. As mentioned, this is saying it wouldn't be legal in MLB. This looked like some sort of exhibition/fun game, so it would be a neat trick pitch there. I think most foreign leagues use our MLB rules, as they are all striving to get here (to MLB).

I'm not sure I would try it when pitching BP to my boys, as I wouldn't want to get inside their head that much, as they are both just starting out, but later when they are teeners, I may have to dig this one out and try it. As you mention, it would be a great wiffle ball pitch, especially to an anxious/over-eager batter.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:39:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Originally Posted By PARover:
Major League Baseball.

I will check on Little League rules when I get home tonight.


You do realize that is not MLB?

Plus I don't see in here http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_8.jsp

And that would excluded submariners if they all had to be overhand.


Uh, yes I do, I need the "that's racist" pic...

MLB 8.05 f. The pitcher delivers the ball to the batter while he is not facing the batter;

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2008/official_rules/08_the_pitcher.pdf


Well I guess that would be up to the interpertation of the umpire but obvisouly they do not follw MLB rules, so to say it is illega,l one would have to know what association it is and the rules they adhere to. THat pitch used to be one of my backyard wiffle ball go-to's.



Umpires are human too... we now have instant replay for home runs to be evaluated if need be...

We would need to know the nationality and league rules for that video to be sure, but I would suspect most follow MLB rules. I do know one MLB player that played in Japan (won a golden glove there) so the next time I see him I will ask about Japan.

To narrow it further... MLB 8.05 would make it a "balk" if there were runners on. It however is not a "natural" motion as listed in 8.01 from the "set" or "wind-up" position (unless that is the way that particular pitcher always throws), so the umpire should call it a ball as a deceptive pitch. Going to have to look for that rule now

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:48:11 AM EST
No one would ever be in that kind of wind up with runners on... so the balk point is mute. I mean it really does not matter to me, I was more just trying to point out since it was not MLB, possibly there are different rules that would make this kind of trickery legal. IMO, if you can succesfully do it, it should be allowed. I pitched at a crappy D-1 school here in MD and I was always trying to keep hitters off balance being a 6' tall righty who could only throw 82-84 mph tops, so pitches that "mix it up" always intrest me.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 4:52:58 AM EST
Worked? Worked for what? Walking a batter to first?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:22:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By ACOGless:
Liberal strike zone other there I seee.


fuckin liberals...
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:24:29 AM EST
That's pretty cool actually!
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:29:45 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/16/2009 5:29:58 AM EST
Looks staged to me. The first clue was a huge stadium with not a single spectator.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:21:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By CanteTinza:
Looks staged to me. The first clue was a huge stadium with not a single spectator.


And thats any different for any team outside of Boston , New York or Chicago?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:22:34 AM EST
Ball was not a strike...clearly outside.

Sure would mess with the batter's head though!



HH
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:28:06 AM EST
there is no one in their stands?

minor leagues?
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:33:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By BobRoberts:
Originally Posted By CanteTinza:
Looks staged to me. The first clue was a huge stadium with not a single spectator.


And thats any different for any team outside of Boston , New York or Chicago?
Yes it is different for any team outside of the three you posted. My home town for one, St. Louis, but that's not my point. Watch the video again and point out one fan in the arena.

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:35:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 6:38:36 AM EST by HiramRanger]
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:38:44 AM EST
At second 00:22 you can clearly see that the ball goes right through the strike zone.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:43:32 AM EST
You should see how they fight, LINK.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:50:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/16/2009 6:59:54 AM EST by Desert_AIP]
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Funnier'n hell!

BTW that is not Japanese, it is Korean I think.


It's Japanese, both the uniform and TV text

The pitcher is a Japanese comedian Gorugo Matsumoto ("Gorugo" in Katakana on his jersey)
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:15:45 AM EST
ROR
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:18:22 AM EST
I saw a underhand pitch once...........
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:24:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:36:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Faked.
Look at the stands ans the camera pans around....ZERO people.


It might work once.

Second attempt...400ft.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 8:47:44 AM EST
That's why they don't have any fans in the stadium.

Link Posted: 9/16/2009 9:57:01 AM EST
Funny but fake. For sure a ROR!!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 10:33:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 10:35:19 AM EST
Nolan Ryan says ""
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 10:52:08 AM EST
it's FAKE... it's FAKE........
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:00:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Funnier'n hell!

BTW that is not Japanese, it is Korean I think.


BTW that is Japanese and not Korean.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:17:17 AM EST
Tee off on that pitcher.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:23:17 AM EST


But any batter that was paying attention would have smacked that out of the park. Still funny though.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:33:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By snoopaloop:
Damn, you could park a bus in that ump's strike zone.


Really. A stormtrooper could hit that strike zone.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:45:02 AM EST
My Junior Highschool PE coach used to do that pitch to us.


He called it: "The Heeby Jeeby pitch."

(This was before the internetz)

Coach Fultz was his name.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:48:37 AM EST
that was about a foot outside
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 11:54:53 AM EST
It is a balk.

Pitcher must be facing the batter when the ball is thrown.
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