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Posted: 10/31/2004 8:23:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 12:09:29 AM EST by Specop_007]
Like it says. Yes or no?
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:24:38 PM EST
no
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:24:40 PM EST
Wouldnt be my first choice, but if he was the better of the 2 I would.

Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:25:46 PM EST
If he was the only republican running .......sure
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:26:13 PM EST
No

and hopefully he wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:27:09 PM EST
hmmm.......


would i vote for the gungrabbingcocksucker?


nope
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:27:19 PM EST
Maybe.

Depends what my choices are.

Definitely not my first choice.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:27:49 PM EST
Absolutely NOT!!!
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:29:32 PM EST
Only if he was up against Hillary.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:29:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/31/2004 8:29:57 PM EST by yugosksfan]
chalk up another 'no' here.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:30:23 PM EST
Nope. Unless he was running against Kerry.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:30:24 PM EST
Depends on if he is running against Hitlery or not.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:30:31 PM EST
Hell no!
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:36:32 PM EST
Will never happen...

And if it did, what choise would we have?
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:39:03 PM EST
What if it was a choice between McCain and Guliani? wrap your brain around that one...
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:42:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By bastiat:
No

and hopefully he wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.



+1


Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
What if it was a choice between McCain and Guliani? wrap your brain around that one...


I cant even say that there is a difference enough to make the "Giant Douche/Turd Sandwich" comparison.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:43:48 PM EST
Depends on how bad the other candidate was, however, probably not.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:45:29 PM EST
NO

This thread needs a poll
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:48:23 PM EST
Not if there was another choice. But, If it was a choice between Rudy or Mrs. BJ Clinton....
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:50:16 PM EST
Under no circumstance.
The things that pass for conservative in NY and CA just dont fly here. Id vote for a third party.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:51:12 PM EST
How about........no.

CW
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:51:30 PM EST
www.issues2000.org/2000/Rudy_Giuliani_Gun_Control.htm

Rudy Giuliani on Gun Control

All gun owners should pass written test

I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they're intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we're talking about all dangerous weapons.

Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:52:33 PM EST
Whats so good about him?
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 8:55:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Thor21:
Depends on if he is running against Hitlery or not.



I think that would be one of the only cases where I would vote "lesser of two evils"

anything to keep hitlery out of office.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 9:43:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By mrphelps:

Originally Posted By Thor21:
Depends on if he is running against Hitlery or not.



I think that would be one of the only cases where I would vote "lesser of two evils"

anything to keep hitlery out of office.



Exactly
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 9:47:34 PM EST
No way in hell. Make no mistake, he is a gun grabber!
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:40:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/31/2004 10:42:17 PM EST by paenutz]

Originally Posted By Engineer:
www.issues2000.org/2000/Rudy_Giuliani_Gun_Control.htm

Rudy Giuliani on Gun Control

All gun owners should pass written test

I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they're intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we're talking about all dangerous weapons.

Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000




I have no problem with that, even though ist STUPID!

But hey it seems America is STUPID anymore...

Load a gun, pull its triger...
If said "gun" is pointed at something living, it will most likely die...

ABC's and 123's, If America Decides its necessary for me and mine to prove
that we are Competent in knowing that fine.

But we wouldnt have to worrie about it if ameriKa
would wake the fuck up and grow a brian.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 10:55:12 PM EST
I don't applaud Guliani's stance on guns, BUT he does at least appear to have some common sense and moral ground to stand on.
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 11:44:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/31/2004 11:49:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
Whats so good about him?




Nothing much really.

Big name though would pull alot of non party votes, like Arnold did in CA.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:10:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 12:48:20 AM EST by Nugz]
No. If it came to that you would find me voting independent for sure.

-Nugz

Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:31:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 12:35:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/1/2004 12:39:37 AM EST by Nugz]

Originally Posted By paenutz:

Originally Posted By Engineer:
www.issues2000.org/2000/Rudy_Giuliani_Gun_Control.htm

Rudy Giuliani on Gun Control

All gun owners should pass written test

I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they're intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we're talking about all dangerous weapons.

Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000




I have no problem with that, even though ist it's STUPID!

But hey it seems America is STUPID anymore...

Load a gun, pull its triger trigger...
If said "gun" is pointed at something living, it will most likely die...

ABC's and 123's, If America Ddecides its necessary for me and mine to prove
that we are Ccompetent in knowing that, fine.

But we wouldn't have to worrie worry about it if ameriKa America *EDITORS NOTE: I know what you are trying to say with the "K" and all, but please leave that for Kalifornia. America is'nt THAT bad...yet.
would wake the fuck up and grow a brian brain.



Sorry bro, I couldn't resist. It was the "grow a brian" that did me in.

-The Editor

This message has been edited byThe Editor as a public service to those who drink and post.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:22:10 AM EST
Giuliani is a RINO, though I suppose that's as close as one can get to a Republican in a big city. Nevertheless, he is no friend of ours. I'm originally from NYC and know what I'm talking about. Yes, he did well in the 9/11 aftermath, but so would Hitler.

As far as him over Hillary, if the American people are still such large babies they will go for that, or even consider noiminating Hillary, vote for Hillary and "Cry havoc, and release the dogs of War."
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:27:58 AM EST
No way in hell.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 3:56:46 AM EST
Prefer him? No.

Vote for him? That depends on the other choices. None exist in a vaccuum.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:08:27 AM EST
Not in a primary, but if he was the candidate against a dem. then I would.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:09:18 AM EST
Kiss your right to bear arms goodbye. He's for "common sense" gun control.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:20:50 AM EST
Hell No, one look at New York States gun laws tells me everything I need to know.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:38:34 AM EST
No votes for anti-constitutionalists from me.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:52:45 AM EST
No.

Outside of 9/11, Giuliani was more or less despised as a mayor for his JBT stance on so many things. While it was effective in the area of crime control, it also led to the Louima and Diallo incidents. Furthermore, he made sure to close every good strip bar and turned Times Square into a Disneyland when it should have remained a criminal cesspool. And last, he has the moral fiber of Clinton since he brought his adulterous girlfriend into Gracie Mansion.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:53:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By ChrisLe:
Absolutely NOT!!!



+1
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 4:55:37 AM EST
After this election - I'm only voting for pro-gun presidential candidates, so, No.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:23:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Engineer:
www.issues2000.org/2000/Rudy_Giuliani_Gun_Control.htm

Rudy Giuliani on Gun Control

All gun owners should pass written test

I do not think the government should cut off the right to bear arms. My position for many years has been that just as a motorist must have a license, a gun owner should be required to have one as well. Anyone wanting to own a gun should have to pass a written exam that shows that they know how to use a gun, that they're intelligent enough and responsible enough to handle a gun. Should both handgun and rifle owners be licensed...we're talking about all dangerous weapons.

Source: Boston Globe, p. A4 Mar 21, 2000



This statement clearly illustrates Giuliani's lack of understanding of that which is a priveledge and that which is a right. Not only does he not understand that firearms ownership is a right guaranteed by the Bill Of Rights, but that it pre-dates the Constitution itself. The wording is clear. It is not written that a right to keep and bear arms shall be established, but that THE RIGHT to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It was already accepted as an established right by the founding fathers.

Giuliani, like all other "moderate", Country Club Republicans (RINO's), cannot get elected as President. It's a simple matter of looking at the numbers. The conservative base of the Republican Party will not support any so called "moderate" Republican for the party's nomination as Republican Party candidate for president. Even if that candidate manages to win the nomination despite the lack of support from the conservatives, he cannot win the general election without the conservatives support...their complete support. A Republican candidate must have the complete support of his party and a substantial percentage of the independent vote and maybe some Reagan Democrat vote to have a chance of winning the general election. Take the conservatives out of the equation, and he can't win. It's that simple. The conservatives stay home on election day, the "moderate" Republican loses the election. It happened with Ford, it happened with Dole, and it would happen with Giuliani.

Now a good place for Giuliani would be as an opponent for Hillary Clinton in the '06 Senate race. We can forget about New York electing a conservative Senator, so the best we could hope for would be a Giuliani. Not only would a Giuliani win remove Clinton from the Senate, but it would also torpedo her run for the White House in '08. She'd have to run as a one term loser Senator. That would destroy her credability as a candidate and give her opposition all the material they need to attack her. She might not even get her party's nomination after her own fellow Democrats are through using that issue against her. At any rate, she'd be in for a real mud wrestling contest, and the bitch in her (I know, she's ALL bitch) would come out for all to see. Even if she won, she wouldn't look good doing it.

We can only hope it happens...
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:28:51 AM EST
RINO, just like Arnold
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:30:37 AM EST
Florida here.
Link Posted: 11/1/2004 5:36:58 AM EST
In the primaries? NO! In the general election? YES!
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