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Posted: 10/28/2013 5:19:42 AM EST
HPV is known to be a significant risk factor for cervical cancer in women. Men can be carriers.

If you knew you had HPV, would you tell your wife or SO?

If you have been sexually active prior to involvement with your wife or SO, would you be tested to see your status to see if you are a carrier?

Human papillomavirus (HPV) is a DNA virus from the papillomavirus family that is capable of infecting humans. Like all papillomaviruses, HPVs establish productive infections only in keratinocytes of the skin or mucous membranes. While the majority of the known types of HPV cause no symptoms in most people, some types can cause warts (verrucae), while [i][u][b]others can—in a minority of cases—lead to cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina, penis, oropharynx and anus. Recently, HPV has been linked with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. In addition, HPV 16 and 18 infections are strongly associated with an increased odds ratio of developing oropharyngeal (throat) cancer.

More than 30 to 40 types of HPV are typically transmitted through sexual contact and infect the anogenital region. Some sexually transmitted HPV types may cause genital warts. Persistent infection with "high-risk" HPV types—different from the ones that cause skin warts—may progress to precancerous lesions and invasive cancer.[4] HPV infection is a cause of nearly all cases of cervical cancer.[5] However, most infections do not cause disease.

Most HPV infections in young women are temporary and have little long-term significance. Seventy percent of infections are gone in 1 year and ninety percent in 2 years.[6] However, when the infection persists—in 5% to 10% of infected women—there is high risk of developing precancerous lesions of the cervix, which can progress to invasive cervical cancer. This process usually takes 10–15 years, providing many opportunities for detection and treatment of the pre-cancerous lesion. Progression to invasive cancer can be almost always prevented when standard prevention strategies are applied, but the lesions still cause considerable burden necessitating preventive surgeries, which do in many cases involve loss of fertility.

Testing men

Research studies have tested for and found HPV, including high-risk types (i.e. the types found in cancers), on fingers, mouth, saliva, anus, urethra, urine, semen, blood, scrotum and penis. However most research tests have used Dacron swabs and custom analysis not available to the general public.

IMO, real men put the health of their wives or SO ahead of their own.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:21:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
HPV is known to be a significant risk factor for cervical cancer in women. Men can be carriers.

If you knew you had HPV, would you tell your wife or SO?

If you have been sexually active prior to involvement with your wife or SO, would you be tested to see your status to see if you are a carrier?
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Last I knew there were no HPV tests or treatments for males
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:27:26 AM EST
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:27:49 AM EST
My understanding of HPV is that it is endemic in population. Meaning virtually EVERYONE has HPV. If you are sexually active, you have HPV.

Assume it. You also have Herpes Simplex 1.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:28:39 AM EST
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Yes, there are tests for men. There are none approved in the US.

Question is hypothetical.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:32:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
Yes, there are tests for men. There are none approved in the US.

Question is hypothetical.
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Currently, there is no HPV test recommended for men

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm

Don't ask a hypothetical where the only "tests" are not even available in the US
last time I asked a doc about the issue they said its so easy to get that simply sharing a towel with an infected person could transfer it to you
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:33:30 AM EST
There are no tests, and unless you have warts, you're likely to never know that you have HPV. From what I've heard, pretty much everyone has it, but most never show symptoms including women.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:34:33 AM EST
Yes, have her get vaccinated next time she sees her doctor.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:40:52 AM EST
HPV and HSV are two VERY misunderstood STDs. Society is woefully ignorant of both of these viruses and how many people are actually infected. As mentioned HPV is more prevalent than HSV. Most human immune systems effectively suppress HPV but is pretty easily detectable if you know where to look and make an effort to.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:41:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By joshiedoom:
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.
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Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:42:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FlashHole:
Yes, have her get vaccinated next time she sees her doctor.
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I was thinking they have now backed off on the vaccines for HPV due to complications.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:42:42 AM EST
What if she already knows and didn't tell you?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:42:51 AM EST
There's two ways to go about it... You can test everyone and then trust that they'll share the info and trust that they'll remain in their agreed to sexual relationships, or you can test women yearly for precancerous signs.

Except trust isn't really something you base medicine on, so you'd be pap testing the women anyway...

...so why waste the time testing the men?

The only advantage your method has in terms of public health policy is that it makes women feel better about not being the only ones with the burden of being tested. The fact that people lie greatly reduces any other benefit.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:43:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.
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Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:
Originally Posted By joshiedoom:
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.


Sounds like somebody spent some time in the clap line after liberty.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:46:02 AM EST
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Sounds like somebody spent some time in the clap line after liberty.
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Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:
Originally Posted By joshiedoom:
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.


Sounds like somebody spent some time in the clap line after liberty.


My wife worked for a VD clinic for years. She wouldn't let me near her without the ole bore punching.

Word is they have much less... uh... "invasive" tests now. Too late for me I'm sad to say, but a great blessing to the peckers of the future.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:47:25 AM EST
You'd be just as accurate if you assumed that everyone you came into contact with was carrying it, male or female. Because thats just about the case.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:54:04 AM EST
If I knew, I would tell. Not sure how I would know.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:56:02 AM EST
I would expect her to tell me, so yes I'd tell her.

But since we've only ever been with each other, such concerns are way off my radar.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:09:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stutzcattle:


Sounds like somebody spent some time in the clap line after liberty.
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Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:
Originally Posted By joshiedoom:
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.


Sounds like somebody spent some time in the clap line after liberty.



Ex gf of many years cheated on me, at least was honest enough to tell me, got bore snaked to be safe after ejection.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:17:10 AM EST
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The HPV panic reminds me of the HIV panic of the 90's. The part that the HIV panic police forgot to mention was that the vast majority of HIV patients are gay. Among straight folks, the highest risk is among black folks. If you're a black, gay dude... well you were pretty much screwed. You really can't say that on TV because that would not be PC.

HPV IS everywhere but something that isn't mentioned very often is that the human body does have the ability to fight off the infection, depending on the strain. You could have it and your body could defeat it and you might never know.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 8:43:43 AM EST
Of course.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 8:52:16 AM EST
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 8:52:59 AM EST
YES
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I knew it. Arfcom is riddled with STD carrying fornicators!

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Originally Posted By xylo:
My understanding of HPV is that it is endemic in population. Meaning virtually EVERYONE has HPV. If you are sexually active, you have HPV.

Assume it. You also have Herpes Simplex 1.
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 8:59:26 AM EST
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I knew it. Arfcom is riddled with STD carrying fornicators!


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I knew it. Arfcom is riddled with STD carrying fornicators!

Originally Posted By xylo:
My understanding of HPV is that it is endemic in population. Meaning virtually EVERYONE has HPV. If you are sexually active, you have HPV.

Assume it. You also have Herpes Simplex 1.



You can't get it from internet porn.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:02:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.
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This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:07:35 AM EST
AFAIK, Gardasil is basically just for children at this point. All you can do is make sure your child gets the shot(s). All it takes is some "playing house" and you are done. So dont put it off until the kid is 17. Id jump at the chance as soon as Dr's will allow it.

Part of this responsibility is to stomp a mudhole in anyone who thinks you are giving the a-ok for sexual activity because you had your kid get the shots.
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That wasnt much fun was it?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:08:17 AM EST
I got vaccinated at 16, and I'm a guy.
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This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.
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Originally Posted By wally910:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.


This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.


It's 99% effective. What more do you want?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:09:04 AM EST
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No, it's 99% effective against the strains it vaccinates against. Not against HPV as a whole virus.
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It's 99% effective. What more do you want?
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By wally910:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.


This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.


It's 99% effective. What more do you want?


They covered the strains that cause the majority of disease. There's no reason to believe the other strains won't pick up the slack once given the chance, and the +/- 1% will still need to be screened for cervical cancer.

That also leaves out the luddites that would refuse the vaccine.

Guardasil is a great product that should be put in the water supply, but be careful about what you expect out of it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:14:10 AM EST
Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
HPV is known to be a significant risk factor for cervical cancer in women. Men can be carriers.

If you knew you had HPV, would you tell your wife or SO?

If you have been sexually active prior to involvement with your wife or SO, would you be tested to see your status to see if you are a carrier?

Human papillomavirus (HPV) is a DNA virus from the papillomavirus family that is capable of infecting humans. Like all papillomaviruses, HPVs establish productive infections only in keratinocytes of the skin or mucous membranes. While the majority of the known types of HPV cause no symptoms in most people, some types can cause warts (verrucae), while [i][u]others can—in a minority of cases—lead to cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina, penis, oropharynx and anus. Recently, HPV has been linked with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease. In addition, HPV 16 and 18 infections are strongly associated with an increased odds ratio of developing oropharyngeal (throat) cancer.

More than 30 to 40 types of HPV are typically transmitted through sexual contact and infect the anogenital region. Some sexually transmitted HPV types may cause genital warts. Persistent infection with "high-risk" HPV types—different from the ones that cause skin warts—may progress to precancerous lesions and invasive cancer.[4] HPV infection is a cause of nearly all cases of cervical cancer.[5] However, most infections do not cause disease.

Most HPV infections in young women are temporary and have little long-term significance. Seventy percent of infections are gone in 1 year and ninety percent in 2 years.[6] However, when the infection persists—in 5% to 10% of infected women—there is high risk of developing precancerous lesions of the cervix, which can progress to invasive cervical cancer. This process usually takes 10–15 years, providing many opportunities for detection and treatment of the pre-cancerous lesion. Progression to invasive cancer can be almost always prevented when standard prevention strategies are applied, but the lesions still cause considerable burden necessitating preventive surgeries, which do in many cases involve loss of fertility.

Testing men

Research studies have tested for and found HPV, including high-risk types (i.e. the types found in cancers), on fingers, mouth, saliva, anus, urethra, urine, semen, blood, scrotum and penis. However most research tests have used Dacron swabs and custom analysis not available to the general public.

IMO, real men put the health of their wives or SO ahead of their own.
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:17:35 AM EST
BTW, there is also a link between HPV and laryngeal/esophageal cancer in men.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:27:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By badfish274:
You'd be just as accurate if you assumed that everyone you came into contact with was carrying it, male or female. Because thats just about the case.
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This. And Jimmy caps aren't that effective at stopping it. So have fun
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:30:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.
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Originally Posted By usmc_delaware:
Originally Posted By joshiedoom:
Q-tip in the pee hole is on my top list of epic feelings.


Epic is a great word to describe this procedure. Nothing more awkward feeling than a good old fashioned bore punching.


If that seems epic to you, ask your urologist about some of the truly unpleasant procedures he does. Be prepared for much shuddering.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:37:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By xylo:
My understanding of HPV is that it is endemic in population. Meaning virtually EVERYONE has HPV. If you are sexually active, you have HPV.

Assume it. You also have Herpes Simplex 1.
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If you get cold sores, you have at least one of the herps in you.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:44:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By xylo:
My understanding of HPV is that it is endemic in population. Meaning virtually EVERYONE has HPV. If you are sexually active, you have HPV.

Assume it. You also have Herpes Simplex 1.
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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:50:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:


They covered the strains that cause the majority of disease. There's no reason to believe the other strains won't pick up the slack once given the chance, and the +/- 1% will still need to be screened for cervical cancer.

That also leaves out the luddites that would refuse the vaccine.

Guardasil is a great product that should be put in the water supply, but be careful about what you expect out of it.
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By wally910:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.


This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.


It's 99% effective. What more do you want?


They covered the strains that cause the majority of disease. There's no reason to believe the other strains won't pick up the slack once given the chance, and the +/- 1% will still need to be screened for cervical cancer.

That also leaves out the luddites that would refuse the vaccine.

Guardasil is a great product that should be put in the water supply, but be careful about what you expect out of it.


Once again, GD medical proves to be worth what you paid for, nothing.

Gardasil protects against 4 strains of HPV. It is ONLY effective against those 4 strains, IF YOU HAVE NOT CONTRACTED IT YET. Of those 4, 2 cause warts, and 2 cause cancer. They picked the ones most likely to cause both. It does not remove HPV risk entirely, nor by 99%. It only fights 4 very specific strains.

Edit to add, After posting I figured you might like a nice easy link to get some facts straight from the company that makes it.

Gardasil
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Last I knew there were no HPV tests or treatments for males
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Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
HPV is known to be a significant risk factor for cervical cancer in women. Men can be carriers.

If you knew you had HPV, would you tell your wife or SO?

If you have been sexually active prior to involvement with your wife or SO, would you be tested to see your status to see if you are a carrier?

Last I knew there were no HPV tests or treatments for males


A doctor friend of mine says there is. She said in a blood test it shows up as some sort of herpes strain. I don't know if that's true, but she's quite smart and I don't usually doubt her.
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Originally Posted By SomeTNGuy:


Once again, GD medical proves to be worth what you paid for, nothing.

Gardasil protects against 4 strains of HPV. It is ONLY effective against those 4 strains, IF YOU HAVE NOT CONTRACTED IT YET. Of those 4, 2 cause warts, and 2 cause cancer. They picked the ones most likely to cause both. It does not remove HPV risk entirely, nor by 99%. It only fights 4 very specific strains.

Edit to add, After posting I figured you might like a nice easy link to get some facts straight from the company that makes it.

Gardasil
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Originally Posted By SomeTNGuy:
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By wally910:
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
HPV doesn't have to be everywhere. If we vaccinated everyone with Gardasil before they became sexually active then it would essentially disappear.

It would save the economy about $1.7B a year, and completely obviate the need for pap smears and followups.


This is incorrect. Gardisil only vaccinates against a percentage of HPV strains. I think the last study I read said it is effective for 11-12 strains out of something like 30-40 known strains. While the 11-12 are some of the strains most likely to result in cervical cancer, there are numerous documented instances of post vaccination contracted HPV resulting in abnormal/pre-cancerous paps.


It's 99% effective. What more do you want?


They covered the strains that cause the majority of disease. There's no reason to believe the other strains won't pick up the slack once given the chance, and the +/- 1% will still need to be screened for cervical cancer.

Protecting against 90% of warts and 75% of cervical cancer is, IMHO, a hell of a good deal. The other strains of HPV are pretty benign.



That also leaves out the luddites that would refuse the vaccine.

Guardasil is a great product that should be put in the water supply, but be careful about what you expect out of it.


Once again, GD medical proves to be worth what you paid for, nothing.

Gardasil protects against 4 strains of HPV. It is ONLY effective against those 4 strains, IF YOU HAVE NOT CONTRACTED IT YET. Of those 4, 2 cause warts, and 2 cause cancer. They picked the ones most likely to cause both. It does not remove HPV risk entirely, nor by 99%. It only fights 4 very specific strains.

Edit to add, After posting I figured you might like a nice easy link to get some facts straight from the company that makes it.

Gardasil

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 9:59:58 AM EST
Most of these skanks work at the fast food drive through, handling your food.
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A doctor friend of mine says there is. She said in a blood test it shows up as some sort of herpes strain. I don't know if that's true, but she's quite smart and I don't usually doubt her.
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein:
HPV is known to be a significant risk factor for cervical cancer in women. Men can be carriers.

If you knew you had HPV, would you tell your wife or SO?

If you have been sexually active prior to involvement with your wife or SO, would you be tested to see your status to see if you are a carrier?

Last I knew there were no HPV tests or treatments for males


A doctor friend of mine says there is. She said in a blood test it shows up as some sort of herpes strain. I don't know if that's true, but she's quite smart and I don't usually doubt her.


Either you mis-remembered, or you should doubt her. HPV does not show as a herpes strain. HPV is not herpes. If it is being done as a blood test, they are checking for antibody titers. All the results show is whether or not the HPV antibodies are present.

Officially we don't test men in America. If you want, you can test with acetic acid, but it is shitty and not very accurate. If you really want to know, have a biopsy taken of a suspect area, and see what that shows. Kind of a waste of money.
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HPV doesn't mean someone is a 'skank'. And HPV isn't something that can be contracted by touching your food.

Do me a favor. Go stand in front of a mirror and slap yourself across the face, really fucking hard.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 10:13:51 AM EST
Sure, I like to meet people with common interests.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 10:27:20 AM EST
I've had the pee hole swab twice and they've both been clear. For eveything that can be tested for. I have an obvious case of dick herpes and I've had dick warts, too. Never a positive test. I'm thankful for good Dr's that took/take care of me based on visual exams and symptoms vs the testing. Warts were chemically burned off (extremely painful but merely cosmetic), and I take suppressive therapy for the herp.

I don't believe anyone, at all, that says that they're clean, that they get tested, or not. And I'm here to testify that the herp can be passed even with a condom, first-hand experience. People have to accept that they do the deed, they can be exposed to all of it, even with a rubber. This notion of I used a rubber so I'm good is a near-total false sense of security.

Now, I'm mainly celibate anymore because of too many fucked up relationships that I just don't care to put up with females and their shit. Honest truth. I also just don't want to have that talk with anyone. I've told females in order to get rid of them and they just love me more...its funny, sort of. Others I've told and never heard from again.

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Originally Posted By USAF_MTL:
I've had the pee hole swab twice and they've both been clear. For eveything that can be tested for. I have an obvious case of dick herpes and I've had dick warts, too. Never a positive test. I'm thankful for good Dr's that took/take care of me based on visual exams and symptoms vs the testing. Warts were chemically burned off (extremely painful but merely cosmetic), and I take suppressive therapy for the herp.

I don't believe anyone, at all, that says that they're clean, that they get tested, or not. And I'm here to testify that the herp can be passed even with a condom, first-hand experience. People have to accept that they do the deed, they can be exposed to all of it, even with a rubber. This notion of I used a rubber so I'm good is a near-total false sense of security.

Now, I'm mainly celibate anymore because of too many fucked up relationships that I just don't care to put up with females and their shit. Honest truth. I also just don't want to have that talk with anyone. I've told females in order to get rid of them and they just love me more...its funny, sort of. Others I've told and never heard from again.

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I applaud your honesty and candor. Take a look, fellows. This is integrity on display.
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