Would you let this illegal alien go?

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Posted: 12/1/2007 6:40:21 AM EDT

This is partially based on something I heard on the news but I can't find it

So let's say hypothetically you are out in the desert shooting and a guy walks up to you and asks for your help. He admits that he's an illegal alien who snuck into the US and was on his way to look for work in a nearby town. However he came across a young american boy who is lost and dehydrated. He says he has a boy the same age at home and he will give his word that you can turn him into the authorities, if you insist, as long as you take him and the boy to the hospital in your truck right away. He says he feels he is responsible for the boy's safety and will not entrust him to a stranger.

Once you and he get the kid to the hospital (or to an ambulance or whatever) assuming you have no reason to disbelieve him (ie he's an illegal day labor, not a Charles Manson follower, smuggler or some other type of criminal beyond being in the country illegally) would you look the other way or turn him into the cops?

I only heard part of the story on the radio, but it was a police officer he ran across who did turn him in (understandably).

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:41:28 AM EDT

[#1]

I'd turn his ass in. That way we'd both have done the right thing.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:49:56 AM EDT

[#2]

I honestly don't care about illegal immigration. In the case of this hypothetical situation. I'd help them out, but I wouldn't waste my time turning in some guy who is just looking for a job. Besides, I like Mexicans and have never had any problems with them.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:50:57 AM EDT

[#3]

I'd turn him in.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:52:17 AM EDT

[#4]

I'd take him and the boy to the hospital, and then turn him in.

However, I voted for the Hot Chick option because finding a hot chick in the desert really does make a better story.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:52:49 AM EDT

[#5]

I'd Rick him good.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:52:59 AM EDT

[#6]

Illegal is illegal period.

Doesn't matter if you're a LEO a Judge or Joe Schmoe on the street.

In this case he is an illegal, albeit a good one. What he is doing is illegal.

I would turn him in.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:54:52 AM EDT

[#7]

I'd Rick Roll him w/ the 870.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:55:33 AM EDT

[#8]

Huh, illegal, what illegal? I was in the desert, when this nice Mexican tourist walked up to me...

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:56:16 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I'd take him and the boy to the hospital, and then turn him in.

However, I voted for the Hot Chick option because finding a hot chick in the desert really does make a better story.

+1

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:57:55 AM EDT

[#10]

Hot wings and beer. The staff and the hospital can call the cops.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:59:28 AM EDT

[#11]

I'd thank him profusely while the authorities put him on the bus for his return trip to Mexico.

Posted: 12/1/2007 6:59:50 AM EDT

[#12]

You also have to realize it depends on what state you are in.

Unless you have ICE trained officers or some state law that allows the arrest of an illegal alien not much you could do.

Here he would walk.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:00:20 AM EDT

[#13]

Not only would I 'look' the other way, I would make sure he had enough cash to get by for a few days.
I we are going to let anyone in this Country, that is the type of person we should let in. He would have earned a lot of respect for his actions doing that.(from me at least)

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:03:29 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
You also have to realize it depends on what state you are in.

Unless you have ICE trained officers or some state law that allows the arrest of an illegal alien not much you could do.

Here he would walk.

In the real story he was deported. I heard the officer interviewed and he said that some people from the town were going to meet him at the border and give him an award of appreciation from the town for doing the right thing.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:08:22 AM EDT

[#15]

This is a good way to legitimize illegal immigration to your average dipshit voter.

"It's for the children!" works again.

We are being slowly invaded by a parasitic underclass and a majority of Americans either don't care or actively encourage it.

Makes me sick. Yet another reason why the experiment which is America is failing.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:08:28 AM EDT

[#16]

Turn him in. I have seen and had plenty of problems with illegals.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:13:10 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I honestly don't care about illegal immigration. In the case of this hypothetical situation. I'd help them out, but I wouldn't waste my time turning in some guy who is just looking for a job. Besides, I like Mexicans and have never had any problems with them.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:19:25 AM EDT

[#18]

I'd turn him in. I might do my best to help him become a legal resident though.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:23:01 AM EDT

[#19]

If he insists on going to the hospital, then yes. I turn him in.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:39:02 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Not only would I 'look' the other way, I would make sure he had enough cash to get by for a few days.
I we are going to let anyone in this Country, that is the type of person we should let in. He would have earned a lot of respect for his actions doing that.(from me at least)

One good turn deserves another.

Posted: 12/1/2007 7:50:47 AM EDT

[#21]

I'd turn him in.

But then, I am becoming a racist with zero tolerance for illegal aliens. They are destroying my community, one "poor, well meaning" law breaking uneducated teet sucking new vehicle driving job stealing criminal at a time.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:07:37 AM EDT

[#22]

Little different than my hypothetical. I only heard the end of the segment on the radio

Illegal Immigrant Rescues Boy, 9, in Arizona Desert

Friday, November 23, 2007

PHOENIX — A 9-year-old boy looking for help after his mother crashed their van in the southern Arizona desert was rescued by a man entering the U.S. illegally, who stayed with him until help arrived the next day, an official said.

The 45-year-old woman, who eventually died while awaiting help, had been driving on a U.S. Forest Service road in a remote area just north of the Mexican border when she lost control of her van on a curve on Thanksgiving, Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said.

The van vaulted into a canyon and landed 300 feet from the road, he said. The woman, from Rimrock, north of Phoenix, survived the impact but was pinned inside, Estrada said.

Her son, unhurt but disoriented, crawled out to get help and was found about two hours later by Jesus Manuel Cordova, 26, of Magdalena de Kino in the northern Mexican state of Sonora. Unable to pull the mother out, he comforted the boy while they waited for help.

The woman died a short time later.

"He stayed with him, told him that everything was going to be all right," Estrada said.

As temperatures dropped, he gave him a jacket, built a bonfire and stayed with him until about 8 a.m. Friday, when hunters passed by and called authorities, Estrada said. The boy was flown to University Medical Center in Tucson as a precaution but appeared unhurt.

"We suspect that they communicated somehow, but we don't know if he knows Spanish or if the gentleman knew English," Estrada said of the boy.

"For a 9-year-old it has to be completely traumatic, being out there alone with his mother dead," Estrada said. "Fortunately for the kid, (Cordova) was there. That was his angel."

Cordova was taken into custody by Border Patrol agents, who were the first to respond to the call for help. He had been trying to walk into the U.S. when he came across the boy.

The boy and his mother were in the area camping, Estrada said. The woman's husband, the boy's father, had died only two months ago. The names of the woman and her son were not being released until relatives were notified.

Cordova likely saved the boy, Estrada said, and his actions should remind people not to quickly characterize illegal immigrants as criminals.

"They do get demonized for a lot of reasons, and they do a lot of good. Obviously this is one example of what an individual can do," he said.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:12:03 AM EDT

[#23]

He did the right thing, and I must also do the right thing. I would make sure to speak on his behalf, and try to point him in the right direction to becoming a citizen or at least a legal resident. He's good people for helping that kid knowing he's going to pay a personal price for it. I want more people like that here.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:12:58 AM EDT

[#24]

I'd buy him lunch and a beer while he was waiting for his ride back to the border. I'd feel bad if he was disqualified from ever immigrating legally, but good deed or no, I have a zero tolerance policy.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:04:50 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Little different than my hypothetical. I only heard the end of the segment on the radio

Cordova likely saved the boy, Estrada said, and his actions should remind people not to quickly characterize illegal immigrants as criminals.

They're still criminals, under the definition of the law.

The illegal immigrant happened to do the right thing when it came to this boy. He did the wrong thing crossing the border. Crossing illegally put him in a position to do right by the boy, but it doesn't excuse his prior crime.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:08:00 PM EDT

[#26]

Is it illegal to shoot someone in the desert?

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:20:10 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
If he insists on going to the hospital, then yes. I turn him in.

Yeah, I'd tell him that those were his choices
I don't hate illegals, I hate criminals and I hate
what the illegals(as a group)are doing to the USA

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:29:30 PM EDT

[#28]

If your local crack dealer was found by the police to have a ounce of crack in his jacket pocket while helping to pull a baby from a burning car should he still go to jail on the possession charge?

Hell yes!

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:31:00 PM EDT

[#29]

he'd walk.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:35:18 PM EDT

[#30]

Honestly hundreds are coming over the border everyday, these guys are child molesters, rapists, murderers, and thieves. Why should I turn in a good guy when hundreds of bad guys will not be turned in. Besides he'll be back across the border in a couple weeks anyway.

Posted: 12/1/2007 9:43:41 PM EDT

[#31]

How about rewarding someone for a good job?

Send him back and make arrangements for him to acquire legal status. It is obvious that his head is in the correct place and he would most likely make a good citizen. Legal citizen after the proper paperwork.

Kicking his loose all together is probably not the best way to handle it. Neither is sending him back to Mexico and forgetting him.

Joe

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:09:55 PM EDT

[#32]

I think I'd turn him in, but offer to help him get citizenship legally any way that I reasonably could. Yeah, he's a good guy, but there's billions of good guys in the world. We can't let them all in the country just because they're good guys.

I don't hate them - they're just trying to improve their life the best way that they can - but we as a nation have a right to say who comes into our country and when. Like any other right, if we ignore it just because it's easier to ignore it then stand up for it, then we will lose it.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:15:32 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
He did the right thing, and I must also do the right thing. I would make sure to speak on his behalf, and try to point him in the right direction to becoming a citizen or at least a legal resident. He's good people for helping that kid knowing he's going to pay a personal price for it. I want more people like that here.

+1 I would do everything in my power to help that guy become legal.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:20:27 PM EDT

[#34]

Maybe Id try to help him become a legal citizen, he obviously is a good man.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:32:35 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
I'd Rick Roll him w/ the 870.

But to properly Rick Roll him you'd need to tape an immigration form to the end of the barrel and ask him to read it carefully

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:33:53 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
If your local crack dealer was found by the police to have a ounce of crack in his jacket pocket while helping to pull a baby from a burning car should he still go to jail on the possession charge?

Hell yes!

This is a good way to see it. He is still illegal. He broke the law.

Another way, if he broke into your house and was robbing you blind while only your wife and child was there, on his way out with your DVD player he noticed that your wife or child was hurt and called the paramedics, would you still want him turned loose? Hell no.

One good deed does not erase that he is still a criminal.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:35:36 PM EDT

[#37]

Let him go. A story like this ending in deportation would spread amongst the fence jumpers and next time, they'd be much more likely to just keep on walking and let the kid die (or worse). Isn't like this is a common occurance and one more out of 20 million isn't going to make a difference.

On another note, that poor kid... loosing both his parents in such a short amount of time and having to go through watching his mother die in a trapped vehicle at 9 years old. Couldn't imagine.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:38:00 PM EDT

[#38]

I could go either way on this one...depends on how I felt after I met him.

If I did turn him in, I'd be sure to make sure the authorities knew the whole story of what the guy did and kinda keep my fingers crossed that it would be taken into consideration.

The guy you describe isn't the kind that worries me...I'm more worried about the ones that have no regard for human life...the drug-runners, terrorists, etc.

On more Mexican coming up here to work isn't gonna change anything much.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:38:46 PM EDT

[#39]

My biggest question is TURN HIM IN TO WHO? We had at least 10 illegals from all over Mexico and south america move in next door. Yes, they were illegals, they admitted it in conversation with my dad who speaks fluent spanish. I called the cops, ICE and went so far as to call the housing authority and NO ONE would even take the info down to check it out. The cops showed upa few times when they were drunk and fighting, no one ever got arrested. Turning him in or not doesn't matter, he won't have anything happen.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:40:39 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I honestly don't care about illegal immigration. In the case of this hypothetical situation. I'd help them out, but I wouldn't waste my time turning in some guy who is just looking for a job. Besides, I like Mexicans and have never had any problems with them.

It's not too high on the list of things I give a shit about either, although I'm certainly no fan of it.

I'd see what I could do about getting him residency or citizenship, he's good people looking for a job, and we could always use that here.

Posted: 12/1/2007 10:43:46 PM EDT

[#41]

If he risked his entire trip through hell to save the litte boy i would deem him worthy.

Posted: 12/2/2007 12:32:28 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If your local crack dealer was found by the police to have a ounce of crack in his jacket pocket while helping to pull a baby from a burning car should he still go to jail on the possession charge?

Hell yes!

This is a good way to see it. He is still illegal. He broke the law.

Another way, if he broke into your house and was robbing you blind while only your wife and child was there, on his way out with your DVD player he noticed that your wife or child was hurt and called the paramedics, would you still want him turned loose? Hell no.

One good deed does not erase that he is still a criminal.

Pretty much. Illegal is illegal. All or nothing.

Posted: 12/2/2007 8:34:20 AM EDT

[#43]

Boy, all of the people posting on here that they would let him go is just

.

This is the same board that would chastise fellow members for anything even resembling an infraction of the law, but since he is just a guy wanting a job, all is good.

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