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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:54:25 PM EST
I'm interviewing for a position at a tobacco company, and some of my friends have given me grief for it.

I don't have a problem with it, but it seems many people do. Would you?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 3:58:16 PM EST
No.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 3:58:35 PM EST
Why would you?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 3:59:36 PM EST
Personally, yes.

Big conflict of interest.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:00:07 PM EST
Legal job that pays the bills............................no problem here.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:00:10 PM EST
No. Why would I?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:00:24 PM EST
One of my best friend's family raised it on a small farm in NC for a living.

They never seemed to feel guilty about it, and while I respected them for being farmers, I wonder if they did have some pangs of guilt somewhere about it.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:00:41 PM EST
Hell no
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:00:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2009 4:02:32 PM EST by fxntime]
Would you work for an ammo company? How about a firearm factory? Bomb making factory?

Al "the snail" Gore came from tobacco. Don't see him handing any of his profits from "carbon credits" to atone for the families past "sin" of tobacco.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:01:42 PM EST
umm if people chose to damage their bodies for marginal benefit why should I feel bad for supplying?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:02:25 PM EST
No thats good opportunity.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:03:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By natedog375:
I'm interviewing for a position at a tobacco company, and some of my friends have given me grief for it.

I don't have a problem with it, but it seems many people do. Would you?


only if they did'nt give me free smokes

i have no probs with it at all, i often do contract work for big tobacco

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:04:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:04:23 PM EST
Not at all. I smoke, I drink, I chew. I work for big oil. I own guns.

Its my life, I support freedom & liberty.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:04:45 PM EST
No. It is a (semi) free country. If one wants to abuse alcohol/tobacco/coffee/whatever you should be allowed to.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:05:44 PM EST
No, why is that even a question if they are hiring.

Would you refuse to gather up eggs, or milk cows if all your buddies were vegans?

Go of it.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:06:02 PM EST
no issues here
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:07:20 PM EST
Do they pay me?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:07:28 PM EST
I don't understand how working for a tobacco company could be considered an ethical problem.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:08:18 PM EST
Nope.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:08:20 PM EST
As long as I get an employee discount, why are they hiring?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:10:00 PM EST
Not at all.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:10:23 PM EST
Not at all.

Why are they busting your balls?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:11:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By DrMark:
I don't understand how working for a tobacco company could be considered an ethical problem.



This.

People make their own choices and need to accept responsibility for their actions instead of blaming someone else.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:22:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?

My only concern would be the contract I was able to negotiate and would the paychecks bounce.


My primary concern would also be job security in that industry.

And guilt?! Fuck that noise.

I work at a casino and a liquor store. Dealing in vices is good business.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:22:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?

My only concern would be the contract I was able to negotiate and would the paychecks bounce.


It is not a legal thing. It is a moral thing.

Why would anybody want to work for an industry that provides an addictive cancer causing drug that kills almost a half million Americans each year?

Maybe that is a dumb question because a lot of people will do anything for money.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:24:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?


Ask our resident Christians if they'd have an ethical problem working for a legal hardcore porn business. Just for giggles.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:24:29 PM EST
No....
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:24:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Flash66:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?

My only concern would be the contract I was able to negotiate and would the paychecks bounce.


It is not a legal thing. It is a moral thing.

Why would anybody want to work for an industry that provides an addictive cancer causing drug that kills almost a half million Americans each year?

Maybe that is a dumb question because a lot of people will do anything for money.


Snort...

How about working in the corn industry? after all high fructose corn syrup is probably as bad for you in the long run as tobacco...
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:25:33 PM EST
I wouldnt feel bad at all. Do you feel bad for people when they drink beer, eat junk food, etc.... If its a job you'd like that pays good thats all that matters.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:29:23 PM EST
would you feel bad working for a beer or fast-food company?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:30:35 PM EST
No.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:31:31 PM EST
hell no.
I don't give a shit what I make so long as it is legal and puts food on the table-
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:33:35 PM EST


what if you were a member of PETA and got a job as a LEO?



Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:33:44 PM EST
Is the money green?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:33:48 PM EST
Not really
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:34:22 PM EST
no,

I worked for Cat and I didn't feel guilty about destroying the earth
I worked for Briggs & Stratton and I didn't feel bad about all the CO2 the put out or the fingers they chop off
I was offered a job to make ammo for the military, didn't feel bad about the people that it would kill
I make weapons for the gov and don't feel bad about the people they will kill

Do people at fisher price feel guilty when some little johnny dipsh!t gets hurt with one of their toys?
Do people that make cars feel guilty about all the people that die in them?

People that smoke/chew made the decission to use tobacoo. They have to live with the problems just like people that drink beer/liquer

Did people feel guilty about buying Kraft food, Nabisco, Miller beer products when Philip Morris owned them? They only own Miller now.

You have friends that have ideals that they do not want to alter, but the hard truth is most companies your going to work for are going to do something you dont agree/believe in.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:34:31 PM EST
not at all
bonus points for a business the .gov despises

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:34:32 PM EST
Hell i was debating on starting a tobacco shop not too long ago...






Speed
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:34:36 PM EST
Hell no, I would have no problem at all.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:35:20 PM EST
No problem and I am very against smoking.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:36:39 PM EST
Nope, do I get an employee discount.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:36:52 PM EST
Depends on the job,

If it was a job say marketing the smokes to kids or women who are pregnant, I think I would take a pass.

If it was a job say improving the productivity of a production plant, sure why not.

I dont smoke however one of my largests customers for years was doing a component that was used by Phillip Morris.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:37:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By Flash66:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?

My only concern would be the contract I was able to negotiate and would the paychecks bounce.


Why would anybody want to work for an industry that provides an addictive cancer causing drug that kills almost a half million Americans each year?


Maybe because he wants to work and needs the money? If you haven't noticed, the economy isn't exactly booming right now and unemployment is 10%. If he doesn't take this job, you can damn well be assured someone else will. Either way, the product is going to reach the consumer. Period. So what is there to feel guilty about? I'd feel worse if I elected to brush off a potentially good job opportunity out of the retarded notion that my personal protest might prevent someone from smoking.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:38:24 PM EST
No. In reality most big tobacco companies have become much more responsible over the years. Anti-smokers might paint them as bad, but they are just offering a product to people who want it. They rarely advertise anymore anyway. When they do advertise, its usually in places where smokers are. I have much more of a problem with anti-smokers than tobacco companies.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:40:29 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:41:09 PM EST
I worked for Us Smokeless in college.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:42:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By cbrooks:
Hell no


This.

You aren't forcing a whole pack of cigarettes in their mouths and making them smoke, so no. If they start it's a personal choice.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:43:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By Flash66:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
"Ethical problem" with working for a legal industry? Are you serious?

My only concern would be the contract I was able to negotiate and would the paychecks bounce.


It is not a legal thing. It is a moral thing.

Why would anybody want to work for an industry that provides an addictive cancer causing drug that kills almost a half million Americans each year?

Maybe that is a dumb question because a lot of people will do anything for money.



And I Give you this threads first Anti-smoking Nazi* comment of the day.
Buuuut it won't be complete without a comment from Dave_A!
*Looks into mirror* "Dave_A Dave_A Dave_A Dave_A Dave_A Dave_A Dave_A"


*Godwin can go to hell. Truth is truth.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:52:01 PM EST
Not if they paid good money
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:55:17 PM EST
Short answer, no. Smoking is a choice that you make yourself. By working there, I wouldn't be holding a gun to your head saying do it or die.

Not a smoker.
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