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Posted: 6/18/2015 10:30:17 AM EST
If you could only stock one type of AK ammo, do you think this would be good enough for SHTF?


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TulAmmo 124 gr soft point fired from 16" SAR-1 into calibrated 10% gelatin.

BB: 597.1 fps, 3.4"

Impact velocity: 2,526 fps
Penetration: 11.3"
Retained weight: 89.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.809"
Min expansion: 0.514"


The penetration is a little shallow, but it ought to increase as range increases and velocity decreases.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:31:18 AM EST
[#1]
Any ammo is better than no ammo
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:31:46 AM EST
[#2]
I try to stock any of the Bear ammo or Wolf
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:33:01 AM EST
[#3]
How do you figure for longer ranges it will get better penetration?
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:38:11 AM EST
[#4]
Lol.  It's hard to go wrong with anything in 7.62x39.

Even though that's 11" deep, the hole is probably big around as a volleyball.

Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:39:47 AM EST
[#5]
My SHTF ammo stock is PMC .223.  
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:42:52 AM EST
[#6]
If the S hits the F, I'm probably not going to have many "fun range days" anymore.  The AKs will likely be sold/bartered with the rest of the toys, and whoever ends up with them can worry about ammo.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:43:09 AM EST
[#7]
No. If I can't stockpile the latest and greatest whizbang, godzillakillin' ammo, I'll just put my AK back in the trashcan, find myself a hole to crawl into, and hide.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:43:20 AM EST
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Longer range equals lower velocity. Lower velocity means less expansion and fragmentation for a smaller frontal area and greater retained weight.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:44:11 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:45:04 AM EST
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Less velocity = less expansion = less drag = more penetration

very common
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:45:50 AM EST
[#11]
It would work fine.
I'm more partial to 5.56 AR's but that setup in the video would be fine.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:47:39 AM EST
[#12]
"Will take meat off the bone, MEAT OFF THE BONE."

Looks pretty effective.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:49:13 AM EST
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longer penetrates more than shorter...
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 10:51:42 AM EST
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Lol.  It's hard to go wrong with anything in 7.62x39.

Even though that's 11" deep, the hole is probably big around as a volleyball.

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Not a lot that 11 inches of penetration can't reach.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:05:29 AM EST
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Lol.  It's hard to go wrong with anything in 7.62x39.





Even though that's 11" deep, the hole is probably big around as a volleyball.








Not a lot that 11 inches of penetration can't reach.



Giggity. (ETA: no homo)





 
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:21:54 AM EST
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Not a lot that 11 inches of penetration can't reach.
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Lol.  It's hard to go wrong with anything in 7.62x39.

Even though that's 11" deep, the hole is probably big around as a volleyball.



Not a lot that 11 inches of penetration can't reach.




That's what she said...    
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:23:10 AM EST
[#17]
No, but if it was the last resort then sure
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:25:26 AM EST
[#18]
If given a choice I'd prefer Golden Tiger FMJBT. Some AK's don't like feeding SP or HP ammo. YMMV
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:25:32 AM EST
[#19]
shtf I don`t wanna be that close....
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:42:23 AM EST
[#20]
I've got crate of that brass cased Yugo M67 that keep for such eventualities.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:48:59 AM EST
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+1
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:51:09 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2015 11:54:14 AM EST
[#23]
I've seen enough cartel shoot out videos to see Tula works fine, but I'd prefer Yugo M67 or Golden Tiger.



I love my SAR-1, BTW.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:25:40 PM EST
[#24]
Trashcan was my vote.

7.62x39? lol, no
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:27:24 PM EST
[#25]
Barnaul is my favorite commie ammo
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:29:24 PM EST
[#26]
No, I wouldn't choose an AK for SHTF.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:29:41 PM EST
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This
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:38:29 PM EST
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Lol.  It's hard to go wrong with anything in 7.62x39.

Even though that's 11" deep, the hole is probably big around as a volleyball.



This


thats the 1st time I've seen an intermediate round actually blow a chunk of the gel block off.

assuming thats not false reading on the chrono thats 1757 lbs of energy.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 12:40:52 PM EST
[#29]
I've been stocking up on plain ol' FMJ lately. It'll work.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 4:28:09 PM EST
[#30]
I sure the cannibal horde will scoff at tula and continue the charge. WMC will have them running for the hills.

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Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:21:22 PM EST
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Do you own a .300 Blackout?
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:26:01 PM EST
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If you could only stock one type of AK ammo, do you think this would be good enough for SHTF?


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https://youtu.be/N7E-qY9-DE0


TulAmmo 124 gr soft point fired from 16" SAR-1 into calibrated 10% gelatin.

BB: 597.1 fps, 3.4"

Impact velocity: 2,526 fps
Penetration: 11.3"
Retained weight: 89.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.809"
Min expansion: 0.514"


The penetration is a little shallow, but it ought to increase as range increases and velocity decreases.
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You are extremely good to go with Tulammo op. You will be the lord of SHTF in your AOE.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:31:28 PM EST
[#33]
if the shtf I'm getting a new fan
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:34:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:40:46 PM EST
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Who currently has the best price for this or anything x39?
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 7:45:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2015 8:16:26 PM EST
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Because of low shipping charges I shop at SGAmmo
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 8:50:57 PM EST
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Do you own a .300 Blackout?
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Trashcan was my vote.

7.62x39? lol, no


Do you own a .300 Blackout?


I actually do not, although if I did, it'd be suppressed and 8" barrel, which I can't really do too well in a 7.62x39 weapon.



Link Posted: 6/18/2015 8:53:42 PM EST
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I'd have to get an AK first, but once I had one, sure, why not.  

I really have no clue about AK ammo, but any ammo is more gooder than no ammo
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:00:22 PM EST
[#40]
Dude, if they see you loading up a mag full of Wolf, they're just going to laugh at you and give you the finger.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:01:04 PM EST
[#41]
Yup.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:13:29 PM EST
[#42]
TFL.

Just got an AK and looking for good defense ammo.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:14:13 PM EST
[#43]
Nope
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:15:32 PM EST
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"Will take meat off the bone, MEAT OFF THE BONE."

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Just like a screen door, removes meat from bone. Slam it and everyone shits themselves.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:16:42 PM EST
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My magazines and drums are full of tula goodness. I would use it for SHTF in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:21:49 PM EST
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Then you shoot them in the head?

Scooter, if they see you loading a mag, you already lost.

And frankly, the AK, shooting steel cased ammo from those factories, have killed the majority killed by small arms in the second half of the twentieth century.



Link Posted: 6/18/2015 9:27:06 PM EST
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Yes
Link Posted: 6/19/2015 12:56:31 AM EST
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This might be okay, but I think that Fusion is the best available and S&B 123 gr soft point is the best balance of cost and quality.
Link Posted: 6/19/2015 12:59:19 AM EST
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I actually do not, although if I did, it'd be suppressed and 8" barrel, which I can't really do too well in a 7.62x39 weapon.



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Trashcan was my vote.

7.62x39? lol, no


Do you own a .300 Blackout?


I actually do not, although if I did, it'd be suppressed and 8" barrel, which I can't really do too well in a 7.62x39 weapon.






Sure you can. The only advantage of .300 Blackout is the .223 parent case lets it work with standard AR parts.
Link Posted: 6/19/2015 1:03:44 AM EST
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yugo m67
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