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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:03:50 PM EDT
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Some would... Some wouldn't.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:04:31 PM EDT
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Some would... Some wouldn't. I agree. Same with LE. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:04:46 PM EDT
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Is perdiem available and do I have a rental car? If yes, then "Grid to follow." |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:04:52 PM EDT
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Guardsmen and Reservists at home no. Other than that all bets are off. If you dont have that community connection dont make any bets on it.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:04:56 PM EDT
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Whiskey Tax rebellion
Civil War Bonus Army marchers Radiological and biological warfare testing on various subway systems without particpant knowledge you mean "again"? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:05:00 PM EDT
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Yes, so would LEO. They need jobs, and they don't want to be put in jail or taxed for not doing it.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:05:05 PM EDT
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What do you mean 'would'?
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:06:34 PM EDT
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Is perdiem available and do I have a rental car? If yes, then "Grid to follow." Are we talking L.A. per-diem or Fargo per-diem? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:07:37 PM EDT
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Outta state hippies in Ohio .....
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What do you mean 'would'? http://www.travelforboomers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/kent-state-shooting.jpg |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:08:03 PM EDT
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History has many answers to the future, so yes they would, they have done it before and will do so again.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:08:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Without question.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:08:50 PM EDT
[#12]
The mil in Egypt didn't. The riot cops were having fun though.
It's hard to say what would happen here. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:09:03 PM EDT
[#13]
No.....unless they were hippies (I kid, I kid)
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:10:19 PM EDT
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Will we get hazardous duty pay? Catered meals or all MRE's?
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:10:33 PM EDT
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Doubtful.
If they did there would be a lot of dead people. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:10:52 PM EDT
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Is perdiem available and do I have a rental car? If yes, then "Grid to follow." Are we talking L.A. per-diem or Fargo per-diem? In the OP its DC area perdiem...cha-ching! |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:11:05 PM EDT
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The mil in Egypt didn't. The riot cops were having fun though. It's hard to say what would happen here. God I hope not this aint Egypt. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:11:33 PM EDT
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Will we get hazardous duty pay? Catered meals or all MRE's? Catering for E-6 and above. Probably no haz duty pay. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:11:53 PM EDT
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Without question. If it was going to come to this for sure, wait for the crowd to dig in and return fire. And they should be watching the roof tops. The official voting booth of the time. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:12:05 PM EDT
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I wouldn't. Unless they were shooting at me. I won't fire the first shot you can bet that on my mothers grave.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:13:12 PM EDT
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Silly. They wouldn't be attacking US citizens, they would be attacking "terrorists."
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:13:33 PM EDT
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Whiskey Tax rebellion Civil War Bonus Army marchers Radiological and biological warfare testing on various subway systems without particpant knowledge you mean "again"? Don't forget the forcible disarmament of people during Katrina. I've got a lot of respect for the millitary, particularly since Im a veteran, but institutionally they've shown themselves to be lacking in this area. I think because of this we have a responsibillity to elect officials who wouldn't put them in such situations. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:13:46 PM EDT
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History has many answers to the future, so yes they would, they have done it before and will do so again. Many times before. Many times again. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:15:01 PM EDT
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lol if this happened so many faggots with their noveske SBRs would be getting their shit ruined by CAS
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:16:01 PM EDT
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It's Monday again, huh?
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:16:34 PM EDT
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Had a captain friend in us army, signal corps, but in an infantry div.
He liked to shoot guns occasionally, but when I asked if he would confiscate from civilians, he answered, "Yes, if they told me to." No qualms. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:16:42 PM EDT
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This thread is certainly not RustedAce bait.
Edit: I would personally head up to the recruiter and sign up so I that I could participate in the confiscation/looting. Sounds like a good time. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:17:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Yes.
You would be considered a terrorist, therefor probably would be shot on sight.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:18:25 PM EDT
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Yes. You would be considered a terrorist, therefor probably would be shot on sight blown up by a drone. 
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:18:42 PM EDT
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Whiskey Tax rebellion Civil War Bonus Army marchers Radiological and biological warfare testing on various subway systems without particpant knowledge you mean "again"? Don't forget the forcible disarmament of people during Katrina. I've got a lot of respect for the millitary, particularly since Im a veteran, but institutionally they've shown themselves to be lacking in this area. I think because of this we have a responsibillity to elect officials who wouldn't put them in such situations. Much to my disgrace those were Oklahoma National Guardsmen they showed in that one video that was on Youtube that spun around for the longest time. The one with the SP4 talking about what he was doing. That is why I say If it is Reservists and Guardsmen at home I am not as worried. If it is elsewhere then all bets are off, which is what I think they would do, send a unit to your home from another state. That way there is no personal attachment to get in the way of them doing things to you they should not. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:18:46 PM EDT
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Had a captain friend in us army, signal corps, but in an infantry div. He liked to shoot guns occasionally, but when I asked if he would confiscate from civilians, he answered, "Yes, if they told me to." No qualms. i was signal in an infantry division but the brigade i was in in that division was a logistics brigade and i was in a signal company inside of that logistics brigade and i can assure you that 95% of signal officers couldn't confiscate money from a self-sponsored car-wash, let alone weapons from the general population i think we're good |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:18:52 PM EDT
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Is perdiem available and do I have a rental car? If yes, then "Grid to follow." Damn you. I was here to contriibute that. There are at least a dozen citizens here on arfcom that would not require orders either. Or perdiem. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:18:53 PM EDT
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The mil in Egypt didn't. The riot cops were having fun though. It's hard to say what would happen here. why is that??? i've noticed that more often than not, the .mil will take the high ground while law enforcement will gleefully engage in the worst sort of oppression and brutality. if obama...i mean, some future president...tried to push straight up, blatant communism, i don't think the .mil would back it. if he tried to push some bullshit "emergency" decree, under the guise of preserving good order and protecting the constitution (as he saw it), all bets are off...some would, some wouldn't. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:19:07 PM EDT
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Will we get hazardous duty pay? Catered meals or all MRE's? Catering for E-6 and above. Probably no haz duty pay. Sort of want. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:19:39 PM EDT
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In 1995 or thereabouts, the was a movie with Dustin Hoffman where the Air Force was ordered to drop a fuel-air bomb on a town to stop an outbreak of some super-virus. Anyway, the crew refused to drop the bomb, and I remember my classmate who was an Air Force vet age 36 or 38 who laughed at the idea that they would refuse those orders. I think we were talking about this very question, so yes I think they would.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:20:24 PM EDT
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lol if this happened so many faggots with their noveske SBRs would be getting their shit ruined by CAS you may be a troll but that's pretty funny 
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:20:26 PM EDT
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Whiskey Tax rebellion Civil War Bonus Army marchers Radiological and biological warfare testing on various subway systems without particpant knowledge you mean "again"? Don't forget the forcible disarmament of people during Katrina. I've got a lot of respect for the millitary, particularly since Im a veteran, but institutionally they've shown themselves to be lacking in this area. I think because of this we have a responsibillity to elect officials who wouldn't put them in such situations. Much to my disgrace those were Oklahoma National Guardsmen they showed in that one video that was on Youtube that spun around for the longest time. The one with the SP4 talking about what he was doing. That is why I say If it is Reservists and Guardsmen at home I am not as worried. If it is elsewhere then all bets are off, which is what I think they would do, send a unit to your home from another state. That way there is no personal attachment to get in the way of them doing things to you they should not. This is why the Romans always used troops from other provinces for pacifacation duties. The locals weren't up to the brutality the task required. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:20:30 PM EDT
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Some would... Some wouldn't. I used to think that in any major disaster or emergency, police and military would be helping citizens out. Katrina changed my mind on that. 
Before this looks like cop/mil bashing: I know the vast majority wouldn't act that way. But even a minority doing so worries me. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:20:38 PM EDT
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In 1995 or thereabouts, the was a movie with Dustin Hoffman where the Air Force was ordered to drop a fuel-air bomb on a town to stop an outbreak of some super-virus. Anyway, the crew refused to drop the bomb, and I remember my classmate who was an Air Force vet age 36 or 38 who laughed at the idea they refuses those orders. Outbreak. I remember that movie. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:20:46 PM EDT
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Yes. You would be considered a terrorist, therefor probably would be shot on sight blown up by a drone. thanks for the correction sir!
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:24:04 PM EDT
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The mil in Egypt didn't. The riot cops were having fun though. It's hard to say what would happen here. why is that??? i've noticed that more often than not, the .mil will take the high ground while law enforcement will gleefully engage in the worst sort of oppression and brutality. if obama...i mean, some future president...tried to push straight up, blatant communism, i don't think the .mil would back it. if he tried to push some bullshit "emergency" decree, under the guise of preserving good order and protecting the constitution (as he saw it), all bets are off...some would, some wouldn't. Politics. Mubarak was part of the Egyptian military regime that ran the country. In order to isolate itself from the rage directed towards Mubarak, the military played nice. It helped draw a sharp line in the populace's mind between the military (which still runs the show) and Mubarak. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:24:11 PM EDT
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Whiskey Tax rebellion Civil War Bonus Army marchers Radiological and biological warfare testing on various subway systems without particpant knowledge you mean "again"? This. Quoted:
Silly. They wouldn't be attacking US citizens, they would be attacking "terrorists." And this. Fuck.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:24:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hypothetical situation: In the near future, the US elects a president and congress who enact full-fledge Communism. All wealth and property is immediately owned by the State. A large group of US citizens that are Conservatives/Tea Party/Libertarians/Arfcommers/etc. go protest in D.C.. I'm talking a million or more people. As commander and chief, the sitting president orders the military to attack the crowd. Since the vast majority of military members are good people and would support the protest, would the military do what the president asks? Or would they refuse? Anyone joining in an "unarmed" protest at that point is an idiot. Anyone following an order to open fire on a peaceful protest is a traitor. We are almost at that point now... I guess we'll see what happens in November. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:24:47 PM EDT
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Will we get hazardous duty pay? Catered meals or all MRE's? Catering for E-6 and above. Probably no haz duty pay. Which caterer? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:24:51 PM EDT
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lol if this happened so many faggots with their noveske SBRs would be getting their shit ruined by CAS You think they are still gona be there 96 hours later when the Air Tasking Order submitted by the Air Liason Officer is finally cleared by the Judge Advocate General lawyer? |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:25:11 PM EDT
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Is perdiem available and do I have a rental car? If yes, then "Grid to follow." Damn you. I was here to contriibute that. There are at least a dozen citizens here on arfcom that would not require orders either. Or perdiem. All I can promise is if you see a guy masterbating furiously during the Joint Targeting Coordination Board, its probably me. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:25:26 PM EDT
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lol if this happened so many faggots with their noveske SBRs would be getting their shit ruined by CAS you may be a troll but that's pretty funny Based on what I've read here by dissatisfied Infantry officers, folks don't have to worry too much about effective CAS.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:26:05 PM EDT
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lol if this happened so many faggots with their noveske SBRs would be getting their shit ruined by CAS You think they are still gona be there 96 hours later when the Air Tasking Order submitted by the Air Liason Officer is finally cleared by the Judge Advocate General lawyer? Are they considered a TST? If they are a TST, we can put them on the HVTL and have them serviced PDQ. |
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:26:42 PM EDT
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In 1995 or thereabouts, the was a movie with Dustin Hoffman where the Air Force was ordered to drop a fuel-air bomb on a town to stop an outbreak of some super-virus. Anyway, the crew refused to drop the bomb, and I remember my classmate who was an Air Force vet age 36 or 38 who laughed at the idea they refuses those orders. Outbreak. I remember that movie. My biggest problem with that movie was the part when Dustin was driving around in the HMMWV with the M-60 swinging around on top and him talking on the SINGARS headset like it was a fucking household phone.  
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Posted: 7/2/2012 12:28:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: What do you mean 'would'? http://www.travelforboomers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/kent-state-shooting.jpg I nominate this post for the winning of the internet today. |
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