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Posted: 5/20/2005 5:43:05 AM EST
It wasn't called a glock. WHen I think of glock, I think of block, glob, gack. It just doesn't sound good. Kinda like chicken pox. If they have to name it after the owner, it should be Gaston. "I have a Gaston G23" , "That is a real nice Gaston you have". "Team Gaston"

I guess I am just rambling.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:44:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:45:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
It wasn't called a glock. WHen I think of glock, I think of block, glob, gack. It just doesn't sound good. Kinda like chicken pox. If they have to name it after the owner, it should be Gaston. "I have a Gaston G23" , "That is a real nice Gaston you have". "Team Gaston"

I guess I am just rambling.



I Think if they just make a pretty version of it with some SS or Chrome and Wood and the like everyone would be happy.

Me, I like the utility of it.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:45:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:45:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:48:14 AM EST
If they didn't explode in your hand as much.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:50:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By A-nus:
If they didn't explode in your hand as much.



If ppl. didn't think they were an instant expert on how to reload...
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:52:45 AM EST
I can't comment on a Glock too much, as i have only rented one for an hour.

however, Shotar has a great point about the safety.

Take a standard Glock and replace that trigger safe mech thingy and incoperate a 1911 style thumb safety, it would be great.

but then again, thats why a 1911 is on my "must get"list above a glock.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:53:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2005 6:04:00 AM EST by Sydwaiz]
Get rid of that funky trigger safety. I hate the feel of it.

ETA: Since when is a safety a safety if you are already squeezing the trigger?
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:53:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2005 5:54:47 AM EST by Mr45auto]
If they added dovetailed METAL sights, another safety(not on the trigger), a supported chamber and different grip angle. Hell if they made slip in backstrap inserts they could alter grip angle to suit the individual shooter. Plastic, I could care less if it's plastic. I would however like to see a steel insert around the trigger area to protect the hand in case of KB although the fully supported chamber would go a long way here.

Conventionally rifled barrel so you can shoot cast lead bullets.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:54:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 5:56:38 AM EST
sell me one that has a crisp single action trigger and an external safety that i can engage without touching the trigger and i will buy one.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:07:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
If they added dovetailed METAL sights, another safety(not on the trigger), a supported chamber and different grip angle. Hell if they made slip in backstrap inserts they could alter grip angle to suit the individual shooter. Plastic, I could care less if it's plastic. I would however like to see a steel insert around the trigger area to protect the hand in case of KB although the fully supported chamber would go a long way here.

Conventionally rifled barrel so you can shoot cast lead bullets.



You sir have just about described the Springfield Armory XD. Not that I want to make this thread go that direction, I'm just saying... MJD
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:10:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By hk940:
sell me one that has a crisp single action trigger and an external safety that i can engage without touching the trigger and i will buy one.



+1 But then you'd have a 1911...
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:13:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.



+2 on everything!

and the name could be improved.....
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:16:21 AM EST
"Glock" rhymes with "suck".

"1911" rhymes with "heaven".

Coincidence? I think not!
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:20:07 AM EST
Make it double action, give it a de-cocker and external hammer.
Less plastic.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:22:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By 1911ar-15:
"Glock" rhymes with "suck".




Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:24:02 AM EST
My only complaint is the grip angle. It's the only reason I don't own one.

None of my revolvers has a safety. Nor do many of my pistols.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:32:24 AM EST
I have no problems with the plastic frame, it's obvious it works. I do have issues with the grip angle, the stupid safety thing, and, of course, the looks. The spongy trigger doesn't help either.

A Glock would be easy to fix, just change the grip angle to something non-freak hands can hold, add an external hammer, put in a real safety, and make it single action. To make it short, make it like the Wilson KZ-45, but cheaper.

Of course, police departments would drop it like a sack of bricks, but who cares, it's my fantasy.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:35:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
If they added dovetailed METAL sights, another safety(not on the trigger), a supported chamber and different grip angle. Hell if they made slip in backstrap inserts they could alter grip angle to suit the individual shooter. Plastic, I could care less if it's plastic. I would however like to see a steel insert around the trigger area to protect the hand in case of KB although the fully supported chamber would go a long way here.

Conventionally rifled barrel so you can shoot cast lead bullets.



You sir have just about described the Springfield Armory XD. Not that I want to make this thread go that direction, I'm just saying... MJD



MJD, you are right
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:42:13 AM EST
If owned by a different company.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:46:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:

Originally Posted By hk940:
sell me one that has a crisp single action trigger and an external safety that i can engage without touching the trigger and i will buy one.



+1 But then you'd have a 1911...



i would like to buy a high cap 1911 that is light weight that i don't have to oil or keep clean.
i loved my G21 but could not stand the trigger.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:53:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
If they added dovetailed METAL sights, another safety(not on the trigger), a supported chamber and different grip angle. Hell if they made slip in backstrap inserts they could alter grip angle to suit the individual shooter. Plastic, I could care less if it's plastic. I would however like to see a steel insert around the trigger area to protect the hand in case of KB although the fully supported chamber would go a long way here.

Conventionally rifled barrel so you can shoot cast lead bullets.



NEWS FLASH! The majority of semi-auto pistols on the market today do not have fully supported chambers.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:57:51 AM EST
I don't care if you call a Glock Marilyn Monroe, Cathy Ireland, Gaston or whatever.

NOTHING will change my opinion of that BUTT UGLY gun.

(Wait-I've seen quite a few butts that I thought were beautiful. Let's change that to horrific-car-accident-ugly. And YES, looks DO make a difference to me, and all my handguns fire when I squeeze the trigger, just like the grocks)
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:58:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.



Buy an XD!! It has both!
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 6:59:54 AM EST
if you could shoot lead bullets with the stock barrel
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 7:01:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2005 7:11:10 AM EST by TheRicker]
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 7:09:36 AM EST
The subcompacts would be more appealing if they were much thinner across the slide....

I'm not sure I couldn't resist a G30 that was a little slimmer than 1.27"
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 8:21:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2005 8:43:21 AM EST by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.



And a trigger without a dingus.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 8:21:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.



No, a grip safety.
I don't like positive safetys, but something is needed to overcome the Glock trigger "safety".
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 12:13:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By 00_buckshot:

Originally Posted By Mr45auto:
If they added dovetailed METAL sights, another safety(not on the trigger), a supported chamber and different grip angle. Hell if they made slip in backstrap inserts they could alter grip angle to suit the individual shooter. Plastic, I could care less if it's plastic. I would however like to see a steel insert around the trigger area to protect the hand in case of KB although the fully supported chamber would go a long way here.

Conventionally rifled barrel so you can shoot cast lead bullets.



NEWS FLASH! The majority of semi-auto pistols on the market today do not have fully supported chambers.



NEWS FLASH! the majority of pistols do not have plastic frames that are usually completely destroyed with a case rupture. Plastic guns should have supported chambers, your hand will appreciate it.

Your underwater bumpfiring results may vary.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 12:21:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By macman37:

Originally Posted By highwayman:

Originally Posted By Paul:
It they weren't made out of plastic ...



And had a "normal" grip angle, etc... MJD



And had a thumb safety.

With all of these things I'd probably love one. Or have one already.



No, a grip safety.
I don't like positive safetys, but something is needed to overcome the Glock trigger "safety".



No, I typed that right. The grip safety on the 1911 gives me a place to rest my weary thumbs
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 12:23:57 PM EST
if I didn't want a P99, i'de buy the glock.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 12:30:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/20/2005 12:43:16 PM EST by TacticalStrat]

Glock is the "double-wide trailer" of guns. It's the $40 digital watch of the gun world. It serves it's function cheaply and efficiently, in a strictly utilitarian sense.
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