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Posted: 10/4/2004 11:22:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 11:23:11 AM EST by FourStringSlinger]
Worker fired for trying to disarm robber

10-year veteran risked others' lives, firm says


07:59 AM CDT on Monday, October 4, 2004


By MICHAEL E. YOUNG / The Dallas Morning News



The robbery passed in a blur – rough voices, barked orders, workers forced to the floor, a bag of money changing hands.

Then one of the robbers ordered the supervisor at the Richardson Long John Silver's to the back of the restaurant.

"He's going to kill me," the man recalled thinking. So he grabbed a hammer, turned and swung.

The robber fell, then fled, his accomplice with him. The bag of money lay on the floor.

A few days after the Sept. 18 robbery attempt, the supervisor got another shock: Officials at Long John Silver's fired him.

He'd risked his co-workers' lives and violated company policy, he said they told him.

A company spokesman declined to discuss specifics, acknowledging the attempted robbery at the Belt Line Road restaurant and the policy.

Spokesman Rick Maynard said, "Our policy outlines the steps that should be taken to prevent putting customers or employees at risk, including directing employees not to attempt to disarm a robber."

The decision stunned the fired supervisor, who asked that his name not be used because the robbers remain at large. And it surprised law enforcement officials.

"You know what? He might not have followed policy. But don't Monday-morning-quarterback someone whose life was threatened," said Richardson police Sgt. Kevin Perlich.

The supervisor, 46, said his fears overwhelmed him, and for good reason.

"They had my three employees on the floor," said the Dallas father of six who had worked for Long John Silver's for 10 years. "I gave them the money, but the dude who's supposed to have the gun, he orders me into the back.

"The only thing I could think is he was going to kill all of us," the fired worker said.

He'd been robbed on the street 25 years ago. He had handed over his money and offered his watch, but the robber shot him anyway.

"I had a flashback, and I was panicking. I knew I had to do something. I had seen a hammer in the back, and I grabbed it."

A few days later, he was called in by his boss and fired.

"I cooperated. I gave them the money. But they said because I hit one of the robbers, I violated company policy."



Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:26:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By FourStringSlinger:
Worker fired for trying to disarm robber

10-year veteran risked others' lives, firm says


07:59 AM CDT on Monday, October 4, 2004


By MICHAEL E. YOUNG / The Dallas Morning News



The robbery passed in a blur – rough voices, barked orders, workers forced to the floor, a bag of money changing hands.

Then one of the robbers ordered the supervisor at the Richardson Long John Silver's to the back of the restaurant.

"He's going to kill me," the man recalled thinking. So he grabbed a hammer, turned and swung.

The robber fell, then fled, his accomplice with him. The bag of money lay on the floor.

A few days after the Sept. 18 robbery attempt, the supervisor got another shock: Officials at Long John Silver's fired him.

He'd risked his co-workers' lives and violated company policy, he said they told him.

A company spokesman declined to discuss specifics, acknowledging the attempted robbery at the Belt Line Road restaurant and the policy.

Spokesman Rick Maynard said, "Our policy outlines the steps that should be taken to prevent putting customers or employees at risk, including directing employees not to attempt to disarm a robber."

The decision stunned the fired supervisor, who asked that his name not be used because the robbers remain at large. And it surprised law enforcement officials.

"You know what? He might not have followed policy. But don't Monday-morning-quarterback someone whose life was threatened," said Richardson police Sgt. Kevin Perlich.

The supervisor, 46, said his fears overwhelmed him, and for good reason.

"They had my three employees on the floor," said the Dallas father of six who had worked for Long John Silver's for 10 years. "I gave them the money, but the dude who's supposed to have the gun, he orders me into the back.

"The only thing I could think is he was going to kill all of us," the fired worker said.

He'd been robbed on the street 25 years ago. He had handed over his money and offered his watch, but the robber shot him anyway.

"I had a flashback, and I was panicking. I knew I had to do something. I had seen a hammer in the back, and I grabbed it."

A few days later, he was called in by his boss and fired.

"I cooperated. I gave them the money. But they said because I hit one of the robbers, I violated company policy."






Never ate their before, and certainly never will now.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:28:49 AM EST
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:30:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.



Which store is that?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:30:45 AM EST
A liitle arfcom fire mission maybe?

LJS is a yummi brand which is owned by pepsi. Taco bell,pizza hut,a&w,eetc.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:32:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
A liitle arfcom fire mission maybe?

LJS is a yummi brand which is owned by pepsi. Taco bell,pizza hut,a&w,eetc.




Which means an Arfcom fire mission won't dent them

- BG
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:33:19 AM EST
Damn. Just, DAMN!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:33:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:35:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Fire mission?
Point out how other robberies went bad when the robbers ordered the employees in the back and ended with all the employees dead. Thus, unaction poses a greater risk than does action.
Very few antigun stories perturb me anymore, but this kind does. The robbery was clearly turning into something much deadlier, but "company policy" dictates that nobody take action.



Here in Nashville we had Paul dennis Reid who killed 7 fast food workers during robberies, a black female who killed 3 others at a captain d's robbery.
If I worked fast food I would carry for sure.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:39:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Fire mission?
Point out how other robberies went bad when the robbers ordered the employees in the back and ended with all the employees dead. Thus, unaction poses a greater risk than does action.
Very few antigun stories perturb me anymore, but this kind does. The robbery was clearly turning into something much deadlier, but "company policy" dictates that nobody take action.



+1

The dude had been robbed before, and was shot! WTF, can you blame him?

The guy had six children, and has worked there for 10 years. Way to really stand behind your employees, assholes...
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:40:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.



Which store is that?



A very large chain in which every store has a psuedo-rock fountain in the center. If you're a golfer, you probably know the one I mean.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:40:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.


Personally, if they are just going to grab whatever and split no problem, but the when those people want to get rid of any witnesses, then that's where I have a problem. Most of this stuff is covered by insurance anyways, so what the hey just give it to 'em. Now, if the want to shoot me, then, then that's when I have a problem.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:41:13 AM EST
He was being led to the secondary crime scene. He did the right thing.

As I tell my nieces over and over again, the secondary crime scene is where the cops usually find the dead bodies.

Fuck LJS, they didn't deserve this guy. I'm sure he'll have no problem finding a new job.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:42:55 AM EST
Imagine if you had a CCW permit but were forced to leave your weapon in the car. If there was a robbery, or God forbid a shooting, I would really hope that person sued the shit out of one of these companies. Maybe then they'd realize it's not the law abiding citizens you have to be afraid of.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:46:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
Fuck LJS, they didn't deserve this guy. I'm sure he'll have no problem finding a new job.



I hope not. Sounds like he needs the $$$'s pretty bad. Apparently he's loyal...fuck, he's been there forever.

Wish I could afford to hire him...
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:47:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
A liitle arfcom fire mission maybe?

LJS is a yummi brand which is owned by pepsi. Taco bell,pizza hut,a&w,eetc.



Got an address? They need to promote the guy not fire him. He followed the policy. He also stayed alive.

It's crap policies like that encourage criminals and brow beats the sheeple.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:54:47 AM EST
I found this contact form on the LJS website...

http://www.longjohnsilvers.com/comments/default.htm

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:07:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 12:09:26 PM EST by ilike9s]
Sound like he did the right thing to me. Guess it's time to stop eating at LjS. And to think the guy had been shot before after complying, he is definatly in the right. on LjS.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:08:46 PM EST
WTF happened to the United States?

It was here just a few years ago. All I see now are pussies running around, and not the good types.....

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:27:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
WTF happened to the United States?

It was here just a few years ago. All I see now are pussies running around, and not the good types.....




Yup. Hell in a handbasket, I tell ya.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:52:01 PM EST
Three words from Oklahoma:

ROGER DALE STAFFORD

He lined-up 5 teenage waiters and waitresses, along with their manager, in a walkin freezer at a Sirloin Stockade and executed them all with a bullet to the back of each of their heads.

THIS CALLS FOR A FIRE MISSION!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:56:50 PM EST
I love how the corpriats are force feeding cowardice in our society.

be a coward and get along, show some balls and you will be ridiculed.

nice, just nice.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:11:44 PM EST
When my son and daughter worked in their fast food and drugstore jobs I told them to never let some punk walk them into a store room or freezer. Take your chances on going through a window or out the door.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:31:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 1:33:08 PM EST by moneyshot]
You know, the sad irony about this is that the infamous Luby's slaughter in Killeen was what really kicked off the push for CCW in Texas. My wife saw the whole crime scene tape in college and was amazed at the damage done by Hennard. She said he did doubletaps on all his victims. This is THE kind of reason we have CCW, to give us a chance at the very least. There is no guarantee that things would turn out for the better, but when you look at the aftermath of the Killeen Luby's, how could you not think that ANYTHINGS gotta be better than NOTHING.

FUCK LJS. And fuck anyone who thinks they have a right to dictate something that is human nature, "fight or flight", and when you can't use "flight" well that leaves about one choice left.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:39:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 1:49:47 PM EST by nightstalker]

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.


Personally, if they are just going to grab whatever and split no problem, but the when those people want to get rid of any witnesses, then that's where I have a problem. Most of this stuff is covered by insurance anyways, so what the hey just give it to 'em. Now, if the want to shoot me, then, then that's when I have a problem.



Most companies self-insure up to a certain amount, IOW there's a pretty good sized deductible but in the long run this is handled by some risk insurance specialists who don't know how to factor in the value of your life to you. They know how much they will pay your widow if this happens but that's not the same thing.

What this company is saying is that you have no right to protect yourself which violates the Constitution several times over.

I e-mailed them and told them they did the wrong thing firing this guy for protecting his own life. You can pay the widow and the kids a price but you can't tell someone their own life is priced by you.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:39:38 PM EST
I worked at a Subway as amanager for 3 months.I was thinking of buying it but decided it was boring and a pain in the ass.I didnt ask the owner if I could carry because he would had said no more than likely.So instead of a pistol I bought a NAA mini 22mag revolver.I also had a 1911 in my gym bag in back.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:44:20 PM EST
That's really fucked up to get fired for something like that.

Also, Long John Silvers is really good. And I miss that place, as we don't have any near here.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:49:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
He was being led to the secondary crime scene. He did the right thing.

As I tell my nieces over and over again, the secondary crime scene is where the cops usually find the dead bodies.

Fuck LJS, they didn't deserve this guy. I'm sure he'll have no problem finding a new job.



DING DING DING

WE GOT A WINNER


Never go to a secondary crime scene, that is where a large precentage of crime victims are killed. He did the right thing and I would try to sue LJS if I were him, fuck em.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 1:51:49 PM EST
That's a load of crap. I know I'll be staying away from LJS. Wonder what their policy for customer carry is?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:10:56 PM EST
+1


I sent them a nasty-gram also.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:16:20 PM EST
There is only one LJS in Richardson I can think of- its on Belt Line Rd. I am going there right now to tell the Manager we were going to eat there but then I remembered that this went down and we are out. Report back in an about 2 hours.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:29:38 PM EST
Talking out the old ass again here.
"What this company is saying is that you have no right to protect yourself which violates the Constitution several times over." Would you care to point one ONE Constitutional right that applies here? NONE NONE NONE

The Constitution is a limit on the powers of the Federal Government, it does not apply to how LJS decides to run it's business.

They don't pay you enough to be a superhero and YES insurance covers the companies losses. YOU have to decide if YOU are going to follow the policies. It's your consequences as to what YOU do. You don't like the policy don't work or eat there.

That said, he probably made the right decision in not going to the back room The policy is directed at the average high school dropout that normally works fast food. Anybody that thinks the illiterate in 2 languages can be trusted with a firearm at work raise their hand. ( Yes, yes, What they do outside the workplace is their business, inside the business is the company business.)
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:41:47 PM EST
I could be wrong,but I'd guess most chains have a policy like this.

Where I work you can't lay a hand on any shoplifter or go out the store to stop them.Also if you are being held up you are to fully cooperate and do nothing to stop them or even draw attention to what's happening...just stay quiet until they're outta the store.

I think this has alot to do with scumbags being injured or even sometimes killed over the shit they take and their families comming back and suing the company.

I'm totally with this guy though.Whenever I think of an armed robbery taking place,specially at night,I can't help but think about those instances where employees are taken to the back,tied up and executed.

I don't think I could out like that.

Shot in the back of the head,while I was tied up on the floor.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:46:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
Talking out the old ass again here.
"What this company is saying is that you have no right to protect yourself which violates the Constitution several times over." Would you care to point one ONE Constitutional right that applies here? NONE NONE NONE

The Constitution is a limit on the powers of the Federal Government, it does not apply to how LJS decides to run it's business.

They don't pay you enough to be a superhero and YES insurance covers the companies losses. YOU have to decide if YOU are going to follow the policies. It's your consequences as to what YOU do. You don't like the policy don't work or eat there.

That said, he probably made the right decision in not going to the back room The policy is directed at the average high school dropout that normally works fast food. Anybody that thinks the illiterate in 2 languages can be trusted with a firearm at work raise their hand. ( Yes, yes, What they do outside the workplace is their business, inside the business is the company business.)





+1
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:49:30 PM EST
Yeah! We had a Roy Rogers here that was robbed quite a while back and 5 co-operating employees were simply executed.

The bottom line is the store is worried that they could be sued if an employee tries to stop a robbery and someone else gets hurt,

OTOH, if the robber kills the employee, the store simply sends a condolence card to the family.

I don’t care for LJS anyway, but this will certainly guarantee that I never step foot in another one!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:53:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By pale_pony:
THIS CALLS FOR A FIRE MISSION!



Roger Ghostrider, I have your target package ready.

Jonathan Blum, Senior Vice President, Public Relations for Yum! Brands
(A & W, Long John Silvers, KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut)
1441 Gardiner Lane
Louisville, KY 40213
Tel (502)874-2543, (502)874-8200, (502)874-8300
Fax (502)874-8790
jonathan.blum@yum.com
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 4:59:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 5:00:51 PM EST by jasondcrum]
Im back! Here is a pic of the shithole in question. I went in and ordered the number 15 and 17 (both high dollar LJS combos I might add) and then asked to see the manager, cancelled the order and said to tell the higher ups that they are losing my business because of the stupid ass policy. The manager said "I know." Since I cancelled my order pretty late I'm sure that Chapter 11 can't be far off now. I'm just going to sit back and watch the doors get boarded up.

lol- at least I went down there and told 'em- even if it was kinda gay.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:04:25 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:09:02 PM EST
I wrote LJS an email telling them I will boycott and urge all acquaintences to boycott their stores unless the man is rehired w/ backpay.

r/s

Dan
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:13:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 5:14:26 PM EST by Nimrod1193]
Follow-up article:



Long John's story leaves a bad taste
08:42 PM CDT on Monday, October 4, 2004

By STEVE BLOW / The Dallas Morning News


I'm a rules-following kind of guy.

That's boring, I know. We're a society that celebrates rebels.

But me, if I've got 11 items at the grocery story, there's no way I'm getting in that 10-item checkout line.

If I'm in a no-passing zone, I don't pass. If a coupon says it's good for one item only, I don't try to get two.

You get the picture.

It drives my family crazy. No one loves a stickler.

I say all this to preface my remarks about the management of Long John Silver's Seafood Shoppes:

They're nincompoops.

Complete and total, blinded-by-corporate-policy nincompoops.

If you saw the story in Monday's paper, you understand my ire. If you didn't, let me hurry to light your ire.

Back on Sept. 18, two robbers entered a Long John Silver's in Richardson, ordered employees to the floor and grabbed a bag of money.

Then one of the robbers ordered the restaurant supervisor to go to the back of the store. The robber followed. His hand was tucked under his shirt, holding what certainly appeared to be a gun.

The supervisor said he could only come to one conclusion: "He's going to kill me."

And he feared that the three teen employees on the floor would also be killed.

About that time, a hammer came within reach.

The supervisor grabbed it, whirled around and walloped the robber. The bandit fell, dropped the moneybag and then fled, along with his cohort.

Hooray, you might say. A robbery foiled! Everyone safe!

It would be natural to proclaim the supervisor a hero. But Long John Silver's had another word for him: "Fired."

The 46-year-old father of six was called in by his boss a few days after the incident. He was told that he was being terminated for violating the company policy of cooperating with robbers.

And by the way, I'm not using the supervisor's name because the robbers are at large. He's still afraid they might want to kill him.

The former supervisor had worked for Long John Silver's for 10 years.

In firing him, the boss also mentioned that he had violated store policy by having too much cash in the registers.

But resisting the robbery was clearly the unpardonable sin.

As I said, I'm a rules follower. I respect the collective wisdom they represent. I like that they help us live with order, not chaos.

But there have to be exceptions to every rule. And when a man has the feeling he is being marched to his death, that's a good time to declare an exception.

At that point, all rules are off.

Of course, that's just me. Corporate managers of a major fast-food franchise might disagree. But they would be nincompoops.

I checked with Richardson police to see whether new information had come to light since our story ran on Monday. I wondered if anyone had offered other reasons the supervisor was fired.

But no, only calls of support for the man had come in. Many, many calls. "A hornet's nest" is how one officer characterized things.

It was the same story with all the calls and e-mails that came to the newspaper Monday.

I put in a call to Long John Silver's public relations office. Maybe they had gotten some calls, too.

A spokesman issued this statement late Monday:

"First and foremost, we are grateful no one was injured during the robbery of our restaurant. In a random act of violence like this, our top priority is the safety of our employees and our customers. We are carefully reviewing the circumstances of this difficult situation and will do the right thing for everyone involved."

The right thing for everyone involved?

Let's hope. It really doesn't seem so difficult.



Light up Mr. Blum's e-mail. Let them know that this is bullshit.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:17:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 5:38:39 PM EST by Winston_Wolf]
My dyslexia must be acting up, I read this to say ...

Worker Fired For Trying To Disrobe Armorer
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:18:22 PM EST

I think this has alot to do with scumbags being injured or even sometimes killed over the shit they take and their families comming back and suing the company.


There we have it folks, to the company your getting hurt or dead is better than a law suit from the scumbag robber or the family.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:29:01 PM EST
He traded his kob for his life. Not a bad deal in my eyes. F*&$ LJS! I'll never eat there again.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:44:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 5:46:27 PM EST by KA3B]
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To give us feedback, ask a question about Yum! Brands, Inc., please use the form below.
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Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:45:23 PM EST
I had to put in my two cents in on this, so here's the email I sent to Johnathon Blum (sorry it's so long):


I currently live in Carrollton, Texas, not far from the Long John Silvers in Richardson that recently fired a supervisor for defending his life (as well as the lives of his employees) during a robbery attempt. My husband and I both grew up in Richardson and have been eating at that particular Long John Silvers for many years now. Most habits die hard, but this one was easy to let go of. I'm sure you have been inundated with emails and phone calls regarding the senseless firing of such a dedicated 10-year employee, but I had to write you to let you know that everyone here in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area, as well as the surrounding areas, have officially boycotted Long John Silvers and any affiliated restaurants along with it. This may not mean much to such a large corporation, but we consumers like believe in the inherent goodness of people, and what has happened here is a travesty. At what point do the rights of a man take precedence over the rules of engagement? Do you suppose you would have followed the proper protocal if faced with a similar situation where you felt your life was in danger? In today's society, most robberies do not end as well as this one did. This man, as well as his employees, are extremely lucky to be alive. To have him fired for a rule written by people who have probably never been in any kind of situation like this is outrageous. Let the upper echelon experience it for themselves and see if the rules aren't changed. He should be heralded as the hero he truly is and reinstated as supervisor for the restaurant he so dutifully protected and almost gave his life for.


He may not read it, but damn, I feel better...
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:50:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.



Really? I could use a new set of clubs. Where do you work?
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 5:52:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By TargetNick:
Oh how I love corporate policy. The golf store I work at is the same way. If someone decides to walk in, pick up a dozen $500 drivers and walk out the front door, I will be fired if I attempt to stop them. I will be fired if I leave the store to get a license plate. I will be fired if I do anything beyond telling them to have a nice day.



Really? I could use a new set of clubs. Where do you work?



... Yeah, no shit. All kinds of ideas come to mind
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:26:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:54:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:12:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Nimrod1193:
Follow-up article:



Long John's story leaves a bad taste
08:42 PM CDT on Monday, October 4, 2004

By STEVE BLOW / The Dallas Morning News


I'm a rules-following kind of guy.

That's boring, I know. We're a society that celebrates rebels.

But me, if I've got 11 items at the grocery story, there's no way I'm getting in that 10-item checkout line.

If I'm in a no-passing zone, I don't pass. If a coupon says it's good for one item only, I don't try to get two.

You get the picture.

It drives my family crazy. No one loves a stickler.

I say all this to preface my remarks about the management of Long John Silver's Seafood Shoppes:

They're nincompoops.

Complete and total, blinded-by-corporate-policy nincompoops.

If you saw the story in Monday's paper, you understand my ire. If you didn't, let me hurry to light your ire.

Back on Sept. 18, two robbers entered a Long John Silver's in Richardson, ordered employees to the floor and grabbed a bag of money.

Then one of the robbers ordered the restaurant supervisor to go to the back of the store. The robber followed. His hand was tucked under his shirt, holding what certainly appeared to be a gun.

The supervisor said he could only come to one conclusion: "He's going to kill me."

And he feared that the three teen employees on the floor would also be killed.

About that time, a hammer came within reach.

The supervisor grabbed it, whirled around and walloped the robber. The bandit fell, dropped the moneybag and then fled, along with his cohort.

Hooray, you might say. A robbery foiled! Everyone safe!

It would be natural to proclaim the supervisor a hero. But Long John Silver's had another word for him: "Fired."

The 46-year-old father of six was called in by his boss a few days after the incident. He was told that he was being terminated for violating the company policy of cooperating with robbers.

And by the way, I'm not using the supervisor's name because the robbers are at large. He's still afraid they might want to kill him.

The former supervisor had worked for Long John Silver's for 10 years.

In firing him, the boss also mentioned that he had violated store policy by having too much cash in the registers.

But resisting the robbery was clearly the unpardonable sin.

As I said, I'm a rules follower. I respect the collective wisdom they represent. I like that they help us live with order, not chaos.

But there have to be exceptions to every rule. And when a man has the feeling he is being marched to his death, that's a good time to declare an exception.

At that point, all rules are off.

Of course, that's just me. Corporate managers of a major fast-food franchise might disagree. But they would be nincompoops.

I checked with Richardson police to see whether new information had come to light since our story ran on Monday. I wondered if anyone had offered other reasons the supervisor was fired.

But no, only calls of support for the man had come in. Many, many calls. "A hornet's nest" is how one officer characterized things.

It was the same story with all the calls and e-mails that came to the newspaper Monday.

I put in a call to Long John Silver's public relations office. Maybe they had gotten some calls, too.

A spokesman issued this statement late Monday:

"First and foremost, we are grateful no one was injured during the robbery of our restaurant. In a random act of violence like this, our top priority is the safety of our employees and our customers. We are carefully reviewing the circumstances of this difficult situation and will do the right thing for everyone involved."

The right thing for everyone involved?

Let's hope. It really doesn't seem so difficult.



Light up Mr. Blum's e-mail. Let them know that this is bullshit.



I'm glad to see that this is getting some press. Hopefully this dude can get his job back...or perhaps get a job somewhere else where he will be appreciated, and make better bank.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:15:55 AM EST
Thank you Lord, for allowing me to carry my Glock, or Sig everyday at my mudane job. Thank you for giving me the courage to carry it in places where it might not be welcome. On those mornings when I'm running late or my pants are a little snug, Thank You for motivating me to carry anyway, because we know not when the thief will call. Thank You for my wife who always asks if I have my gun as I go out the door., Thank You too for every time she has taken her own gun with her. Thank you for giving me the ability to earn enough to afford good training neccessary deploy my weapon. Thank you for finding me in a state which respects my right to self defense. And Thank You Lord for never placing a threat before me causing my to wield the deadly power, but know that I am ready. Amen.

Oh yeah, FUYUM!
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