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Posted: 8/19/2004 9:54:11 AM EST
Looks like they may make Marijuana Legal in Alaska. Seems like a good idea to me. Heck, when a government can outlaw a plant we don't have to go very far to see guns being taken next. Come on Alaska, let's start the legalization ball a rollin'(pun intended.LOL) and vote "Yes" for legalization.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 9:55:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 9:56:40 AM EST by cyanide]

it is a start
Raven will be happy
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 9:59:31 AM EST
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:03:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.



Think about it like this: If they legalize pot then that'll free up all the DEA agents to go after "real" drugs like crack cocain and herion. Seems like those drugs are more of a hazard then pot ever will be. If you drink and smoke you might as well kill two birds with one stone(again, pun intended.)and just smoke a joint.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:30:00 AM EST
do you really want every pot head in the country to move to alaska and ruin it?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:30:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.


+1 . Although I suport medical use .
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:32:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/19/2004 10:32:48 AM EST by NewbHunter]

Originally Posted By blackrifle51:
do you really want every pot head in the country to move to alaska and ruin it?



From what I hear most of the pot heads are already there living in "communes" out in the boonies.

4x8 sheets of plywood and duct tape are hot commodities from what I understand as well.


Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:33:09 AM EST
hah...thats been coming up every year, for years. Alaska has a huge drug using group. Hell, after my parents got divorced, I heard all the stories about my mom growing pot in the windows of her apartment in Fairbanks

And I was born there!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:36:50 AM EST
Well perhaps they will. Good for Alaska. Maybe it will be a beginning of an end to a worthless, costly, political and ridiculous prohibition.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:38:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Barkinhound:
Well perhaps they will. Good for Alaska. Maybe it will be a beginning of an end to a worthless, costly, political and ridiculous prohibition.



Amen

Chris
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:45:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.



Kinda ironic that your sig-line says "Alaska=Freedom" after a comment like that. Are you John Kerry?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:48:56 AM EST
Just make sure to inform us if it passes. I may have to make a road trip across this beautiful country to see the wonderful things that are to be smoked seen in Alaska.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:52:20 AM EST
Very unlikely. The Lt. Governor is a hardline social conservative/fundamentalist Christian, and tends to have nothing but contempt for ballot initiatives.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 10:57:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By SilentStalker:
Just make sure to inform us if it passes. I may have to make a road trip across this beautiful country to see the wonderful things that are to be smoked seen in Alaska.



Isn't "Northern Lights" a strain that was cultivated in Alaska?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 11:08:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By blackrifle51:
do you really want every pot head in the country to move to alaska and ruin it?

Seconded. Going to have a lot of stuffed-full Bears, with contact highs.

Legalizing pot is fucking Stupid. Then again, so are ridiculous jail sentences for it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 11:14:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.



Yup.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 11:15:23 AM EST
Doesn't matter much what the State does. It's still illegal under Federal law.

If I recall correctly, Arizona, Washington and California have had referendems wanting to legalize it. The Feds made it clear they would step up prosecutions in those States once it was legalized.

Law enforcement full employment act.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 11:56:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By rayra:

Originally Posted By blackrifle51:
do you really want every pot head in the country to move to alaska and ruin it?

Seconded. Going to have a lot of stuffed-full Bears, with contact highs.

Legalizing pot is fucking Stupid. Then again, so are ridiculous jail sentences for it.



Could you please elaborate on Why legalizing pot is "stupid"?


thank you

Chris
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:01:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.



Why are some people so concerned about what other do in the privacy of their own homes? To their own bodies?
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:04:21 PM EST
Most people will only rail when the ban or whatever affects their lives.

Until then, there is no good reason for anyone to do "that" anyway.

Know what I mean?


JMHO of course



Chris
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:24:20 PM EST
Case in point. How many of you even thought about getting an AR BEFORE the AWB of '94?? Once you heard that the ban was going into effect how many of you rushed out to buy a "pre-ban" AR before the ban started?? I'd be willing to bet that alot of people couldn't have gave two nickels about owning an AW before the ban but now that's all you hear about. All that the ban did was make more people want AW's, not less. Same deal with Marijuana proibition. It wasn't much of a problem back in the 30's but when they made it a prohibited substance then everyone started doing it to see what the big deal was. The sooner they legalize it the sooner the black market will dry up.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:37:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Camp_Ninja:

Originally Posted By MGNiko:
Never happen. Especially if my wife & my votes count Comes up pretty much every year.



Why are some people so concerned about what other do in the privacy of their own homes? To their own bodies?



Because it doesn't stay in their own homes!
Abortion can be termed what you do with your "own body" as well, and yes I'm against that too. We've got enough problems with the drunks in this state, why add to the problem? Personally if Joe Pot Head smokes up in his own house and doesn't cause any trouble, I'll never know about it & don't give a rip. Now if you decide to make it legal, do you really think it'll stay behind closed doors? I for one don't want pot heads smoking at the city park, outside my office building, while driving down the highway, or any place near me & my family.
And I do value freedom, and in this case it's the freedom to keep pot heads away from me
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:40:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Very unlikely. The Lt. Governor is a hardline social conservative/fundamentalist Christian, and tends to have nothing but contempt for ballot initiatives.



As much as I dislike direct democracy (two wolves and a sheep, yadda yadda yadda), I have nothing but contempt for those who seek to impose their morality on others, be they fundamental Christian or hardline socialist. The lousy bastards need their comeuppance, and our nation needs an end to the disaster that is drug prohibition.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:42:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By Barkinhound:
Well perhaps they will. Good for Alaska. Maybe it will be a beginning of an end to a worthless, costly, political and ridiculous prohibition.

+2
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:48:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:


As much as I dislike direct democracy (two wolves and a sheep, yadda yadda yadda), I have nothing but contempt for those who seek to impose their morality on others, be they fundamental Christian or hardline socialist. The lousy bastards need their comeuppance, and our nation needs an end to the disaster that is drug prohibition.

How is it that you post what I am thinking before I can?
Live Free Or Die!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:56:29 PM EST
Damn hippies!!
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:59:17 PM EST
If it's legalized it'll be treated the same as alcohol is treated now. If you drink a beer in the park or while driving you'll get busted for Public Intoxication, plain and simple, same rules will apply to weed, it'll still be kept behind closed doors or in "Coffee Shops". I don't see a problem with it being made legal unless you're selling it on the black market, in which case you'll lose your "business" over night. Why buy it when you can grow your own.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 12:59:46 PM EST
Dam socialists.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 1:00:20 PM EST
Yeah!!!!
How dare those hippies try to live their own version of freedom in this free country.
Damn them All.

Sarchasm meter is off the charts
Chris
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:06:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By TNFrank:
If it's legalized it'll be treated the same as alcohol is treated now. If you drink a beer in the park or while driving you'll get busted for Public Intoxication, plain and simple, same rules will apply to weed, it'll still be kept behind closed doors or in "Coffee Shops". I don't see a problem with it being made legal unless you're selling it on the black market, in which case you'll lose your "business" over night. Why buy it when you can grow your own.



You make a good point. The flip side as I see it is this: How many DUI's do we have now? Quite a few (on the rise here in AK which is bucking the national trend). How many stoners are busted while driving right now?..probably not too many. However, make it legal & easier to get & I bet more people will smoke it, drive, ect. So I bet you'd see more & more instances of pot heads driving & risking others lives besides their own.
If someone is growing their own for themselves, like I said I'll never know. Good for them, have fun. I don't want it out in public. If you make it legal as long as you stay in your home, that'll fly like a rock! Easier to not even open that can of worms IMO. And the saga continues
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:12:36 PM EST
Grrrr... I don't use it but legalize it for christ sake... free up some government resources and a few less people in jail (who should be replaced by people who commit crimes with firearms and ruin it for us)


- BUCC_Guy
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:28:39 PM EST
What would be the difference in decriminalizing or legalizing? I'm asking a serious question because I don't know the answer. Not to be a nit picker.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 2:37:18 PM EST
The dif. is in the level of penalty. In CA pot under a certain ounce level is "decriminalized", meaning, it is a small fine and no criminal record, if I recall correctly. Not "legal", but definitely nothing to wet the bed about, either.
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:15:11 PM EST
Alot of your questions can be answered here:www.norml.com/
Link Posted: 8/19/2004 3:21:26 PM EST
I say, legalize all drugs. Then all the retards who do the heavy stuff will kill themselves off. Natural selection at it's finest.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 7:47:26 AM EST
The problem is that if they do it in Alaska the state will attract all the lowlifes of the lower-48 to the state, placing huge demands on the welfare system etc. Look at Amsterdam, pretty city ruined by junkies.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 8:00:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
The problem is that if they do it in Alaska the state will attract all the lowlifes of the lower-48 to the state, placing huge demands on the welfare system etc. Look at Amsterdam, pretty city ruined by junkies.

GunLvr



Dude, they want to legalize Pot, not herion. I'd be willing to bet that you come into contact with many people each day that smoke weed every now and again and you don't even know it. Just like the majority of people who drink alcohol are good, upstanding people and only a few fall into alcoholism and become dregs on our society, many smoke pot and NEVER go on to harder drugs or have any other problems with it other then it being illegal and risking jail time if they get caught. In other words, the "cure" is worse then the "illness". In a free society a person should be allowed to do what every they want as long as it doesn't endanger or infringe on anyone elses Rights. The way I see it, if you smoke a joint in your home or in a Coffee Shop it's not any worse then having a few drinks in your own home or in a Bar. If you're going to keep pot illegal then stop being a hypocrit and outlaw alcohol too, otherwise legalize pot and let people have a choice, that's what America is suppose to be about isn't it, Choice.
Link Posted: 8/21/2004 4:43:50 AM EST
Very well put TNFrank. GO Vols! I hear they are starting Erik Ainge. I saw him in a cafe in Knoxville a few days a go. He is tall, but not very big. I think I could take him.
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