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Posted: 8/8/2005 1:08:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/8/2005 1:08:34 AM EDT by 22bad]
Now that a pro-terrorist group has been "outed" I am sure the 99% of peace loving muslims
will move quickly to silence these 1% calling for the killing of non-muslims..........

August 5, 2005 No.951
"[El] Kaide"(1) Magazine Published Openly in Turkey!

The weekly political magazine Tempo and some major Turkish daily newspapers such as Milliyet, Aksam and Cumhuriyet have reported that the Islamist Turkish terrorist organization "Great East Islamic Raiders Front" ( IBDA-C)(2) began publishing a new weekly magazine named 'Kaide,' which openly praises Al-Qaida and idolizes Osama bin Laden. The Kaide magazine, which looks like an Al-Qaida bulletin and publishes all their announcements, is published legally in Istanbul and is sold in all the newsstands in Turkey.

"May Allah Protect Bin Laden from the Evil of His Enemies"

The weekly Turkish magazine Tempo conducted an interview with [Ali Osman Zor], an executive of the new IBDA-C magazine Kaide, in their offices in Kasimpasa, Istanbul. Following are excerpts:(3)

"[...] Even the plain fact that Al-Qaida has an office in Kasimpasa, in the middle of Istanbul, where they publish this [Kaide] magazine, is frightening. Despite the publishers' claim that they only have 'emotional ties' with Al Qaeda, the entire Kaide magazine is prepared like an Al-Qaida bulletin. On the London attacks their headline reads: 'Al-Qaida is freeing the World' and many pages are dedicated to the statements by Al-Qaida. The Kaide magazine boasts of the beheadings in Afghanistan and Iraq by saying 'the jihad fighters continue to behead!' and all its pages are filled with frightening statements and threats. Kaide also displays the ties between IBDA-C [...] and Al Qaeda.

"The leader of IBDA-C Salih Mirzabeyoglu [Salih Izzet Erdis] is serving his life imprisonment sentence which was a commutation of the original death penalty. The staff of the Kaide magazine is made up of convicts who served long prison terms for their affiliation with IBDA-C and got released upon the 'general pardon' carried out by the government.

"[...] Ali Osman Zor speaks of Osama bin Laden and Zarqawi as 'heroes', says that the London attacks that killed over 50 people 'were acts of revenge for Allah' and claims that former ANAP MP Mehmet Kececiler met with bin Laden [in the early 1990s].(4)

"Following are the shocking statements by Ali Osman Zor:

Tempo: Does Kaide magazine have relations with the Al-Qaida organization?

Kaide: Even if we had ties with Al-Qaida, given the present legal structure, I don't think you would expect from us such a declaration. But Allah has declared in the Koran that all Muslims are brothers. You can include in this circle of brotherhood, our Al-Qaida brothers, our Hamas brothers and all our brothers who are with Zarqawi, the legendary fighter in Iraq. The people in the Kaide magazine are members of the IBDA thought and action movement. Our leader Salih Mirzabeyoglu is being held in a three-meter cell. Our souls are tied with Al-Qaida. We do not deny this tie. We are honored to have this tie.

Tempo: What are your thoughts about Osama bin Laden?

Kaide: We pray for all those who fight for Islam's world domination. Bin Laden is a heroic fighter of Islam. Like many Muslims we are proud of him. Bin Laden expresses the accumulated anger felt by Muslims for centuries against the 'infidel'. We believe that bin Laden, like our commander Mirzabeyoglu and our soul-mate Carlos the Jackal5, is one of the architects of the new world that will be built following Islam's victory. May Allah protect bin Laden from the evil of his enemies.

Tempo: Is there an acquaintance between the IBDA-C leader Salih Mirzabeyoglu and bin Laden?

Kaide: I think you should address this question to the former ANAP MP from Konya, Mehmet Kececiler. We know that when, as a one-term minister, Mehmet Kececiler had gone to a business meeting in Yemen, Osama bin Laden, who was there as a businessman, had asked Kececiler if he knew Salih Mirzabeyoglu. I hope this gives you some clues.

Tempo: While Al-Qaida is painting the world with blood, your headline reads 'Al-Qaida is liberating the world'. What kind of 'liberation' is that?

Kaide: [...] The way they are freeing Iraq is clear. Since the beginning of the occupation of Iraq, 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed in the name of what Bush calls 'liberating Iraq'. The Western world stood with the U.S. in this war. Since the Muslims are liberated in this manner, some Muslims may think that the English or other Western countries need to be liberated too. We think that it is the Westerners that need to be liberated. Al-Qaida with its actions is liberating the West. Also there is a concept of 'payback'. Muslims today are exerting their 'payback' rights by attacking Western capitals. As a Muslim I think these attacks are normal, even necessary. It is not us but the infidel that started this war. This is the language the Westerners understand.

Tempo: But Al Qaeda kills innocent people who are on their way to work. Doesn't the killing of innocent people disturb you?

Kaide: No, it does not. I do not consider those killed in the London attacks as innocent. Because those people paid taxes to the English government and elected Blair who is responsible for the killing of thousands of Muslims. Do they make that differentiation when innocent people are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? [...] When America kills it is called '[collateral] war damage'... Westerners started to rethink after London bombings. They are asking "what did we do wrong?" That means terrorism is not always harmful. There are benefits to terrorism too.

Tempo: So, does this mean that you were happy because of the attacks in London?

Kaide: Of course I was happy. Are Americans saddened by the death of children in Iraq, in Palestine? Also, one of Allah's names is "vengeful'. Takes revenge. Those heroic fighters of Islam that blow themselves up in London [or] in Egypt are trying to earn 'Allah's name, 'vengeful'. There are thousands of young Muslims preparing to blow themselves up. As long as Muslims are oppressed, Westerners will not have peace. The Koran says: 'Fight them until evil disappears and all religion becomes Allah's [religion]'.(6) The suicide activists who blow themselves up, are carrying out the Koran's commandment.

Tempo: Will these attacks be followed by more attacks, according to you?

Kaide: This fire was set by the infidels and not the Muslims. [...] Every day our children and our women are dying under the U.S. bombs. [...] Here, I am openly declaring this: As long as the suffering continues in the Islamic world, attacks against the Western capitals will increasingly continue. The Westerners will have much more of the taste of the pain the Muslims endure. We as IBDA see Iraq's occupation by America as the Third World War. This is a war between the believers and the non-believers. Salih Mirzabeyoglu, Osama bin Laden, Shamil Basayev, Mullah Omar and Zarqawi are the honorable commanders of this holy war. We believe that these leaders will carry the world to more peaceful and happy days.

Tempo: Kaide magazine claims that Marcos, the leader of the Mexican Zapatistas, has converted to Islam. What is the basis of your claim?

Kaide: We have many proofs about Marcos becoming a Muslim. In the coming days we will make those known. Let me say just this: Marcos is a professor of linguistics. Upon his request our friends have provided him with some of the books written by Salih Mirzabeyoglu. We are in contact with Marcos. The public must prepare for surprising developments regarding Marcos, the brave commander of the Zapatistas, after Carlos 'the Jackal'.

Tempo: It is thought that [all] Islamist organizations in the world are interrelated. Does such a relationship exist between IBDA-C and Al-Qaida?

Kaide: I am not the spokesman for IBDA-C. But based on my experience I can say this: No organization admits such relations. I personally think that the Islamist organizations in the world are assisting one another. An organization in Afghanistan cannot come and carry out an action in Turkey. They can carry out an attack only with the assistance of a local organization in Turkey.

Tempo: Will the terror wave that strikes at Western capitals come to Turkey too?

Kaide: This depends on the Turkish government's attitude. If you build alliances with the oppressors of Muslims, and if you call for a joint front to fight the resistance [movement], you will have to pay the price. The most important factor that feeds terrorism is the suffering endured. For example our leader Salih Mirzabeyoglu is kept in a three-meter cell. An IBDA activist may carry out a suicide mission to protest the pain inflicted on Mirzabeyoglu. Those who want the attacks to stop, must first stop their tortures."

"What Is IBDA-C? A Radical Islamist Organization; Their Organization Is Similar to Al-Qaida's"

"The roots of the IBDA-C organization go back to Islamist author Necip Fazil Kisakurek and his sheikh Seyyid Abdulhakim Arvasi and his Raiders'. The first nucleus was formed by Salih Mirzabeyoglu on November 15, 1975 around The Golge ['shadow'] magazine. This group separated from Erbakan and his MSP [National Salvation Party] circles which they thought were too passive. They took part in many demonstrations and lost some of their militants in armed confrontations prior to the September 12, 1980 [military intervention which outlawed PM Erbakan's MSP]. [...] Their leadership began publishing the Raiders' Power magazine in 1979. The Raiders then built training camps for armed struggle in Anatolia and carried out attacks under the name of IKP-C [Islamic Salvation Party Front].

"The organization that drew in the pre-1980's radicalized young Islamists, declared on August 1, 1984 an armed struggle for [the establishment of] the shari'a in Turkey. They were involved in various bombings and assassinations. [...] The ideology of the IBDA-C movement is based on armed revolution and the teachings of Sunni Islam. The books and periodicals that they publish on behalf of their movement direct the young and dynamic Islamists into building terror-based cells.[...] this type of organization resembles Al-Qaida's terror cells. This organization [IBDA-C] has many illegal fronts and currently has a monthly publication called Aylik. [...] Members of the IBDA-C organization claim that more than 60 of their militants are currently in Iraq fighting alongside Zarqawi against the American soldiers."

"Kaide Legal in Turkey!"

The Turkish mainstream secular daily Aksam reported:(7)

"[...] The leader of the Islamist IBDA-C organization, also known as 'the Commander' Salih Mirzabeyoglu's photograph is on the cover of the new magazine Kaide. In the foreword of the first issue they introduce themselves as: "we are Islamists – we are IBDA!" [...] Kaide explains their goal as "domination" and writes "our main hatred is for the Christian-Jewish-Western imperialism [...]"

"The back cover of the magazine displays pictures and statements by Salih Mirzabeyoglu, Osama bin Laden, and Carlos the Jackal. There is a quote from Mirzabeyoglu's statement of 1996 that reads "[...] the pitiless terror that hits Russians in Russia and the French in France, [will soon] strike English in England and Americans in America". In another quote from bin Laden, the Prophet Mohammed's words are used that glorify 'the young who sacrifice themselves for Islam'. In response to Bush's statement after 9/11 'this attack is against our way of life', the magazine said, 'Yes! The attack is against your lifestyle. Your lifestyle that exploits the world [...]'

"In the main article titled 'Al-Qaida is freeing the world' there are horrific pictures depicting the terror attacks by Al Qaida with a caption on them that says '35 of the dead were Jews'. Under one of the photos it says:

"March 24, 2004, Turkey: Two [Islamic] activists carried out a bomb attack on a Masonic Lodge in Istanbul where an important Mossad official was also present. One militant was martyred and one waiter who tried to protect the Masons died. November 28, 2002, Kenya: In a suicide attack on a Mombasa hotel run by the Jews, 18 people died. At the same time an Israeli commercial jet was attacked by two missiles after taking off from Mombasa but escaped the attack. In addition to these, the fact that the article gave the complete text of the Al-Qaida statement after the London attacks, gives the impression that this magazine [Kaide] acts as the mouthpiece for Al-Qaida. [...]

"Al-Qaida publishes a magazine in Kasimpasa!"(8)

The mainstream, popular Turkish daily Milliyet wrote: "Members of the radical Islamist IBDA-C organization launched a new publication in Istanbul that openly supports Al-Qaida."(9)

"[The weekly political magazine] Tempo published this week news that will be much talked about. While the debate in the world mounts on the subject of the bloodiest terrorist organization of the 21st century... a new magazine goes on sale in the Turkish newsstands which shocks everyone who sees it. This magazine [published on July 28, 2005] called Kaide is being published in Kasimpasa. It is an unfortunate coincidence that this magazine is published in Kasimpasa, [a place] that is often identified with Prime Minister Erdogan, because this publication openly defends Al-Qaida. While it openly praises Al-Qaida, it includes outrageous titles like 'The Taliban killed 600 Johnnies'. [Milliyet goes on to quote large portions of the Tempo article].

"Kaide magazine from IBDA-C"

The Leftist, liberal Turkish daily Cumhuriyet reported:(10)

"Members of the sharia-supporting Islamist terror organization IBDA-C are publishing a [new, weekly] magazine that praises Al-Qaida. [...]

"While Al-Qaida continues its attacks, its actions are praised by a new magazine named 'Kaide' being published in Istanbul. There are frightening expressions and many threats in the IBDA-C magazine [...] as well as Al-Qaida's announcements. It has titles like 'The Taliban killed 600 Johnnies'. Osama bin Laden is referred to as a 'hero'; and about the London attacks it is said: 'the bombs have been useful in urging the West to recognize their mistakes'.

"In the same article is written: 'we want to burn all the bridges between us and the [western] colonialists. The same scenes we watch in Iraq everyday, we want to watch in the U.S., England, Spain and Italy. We want to see Africa's hunger happen in the Western world, which caused this hunger. The Sharm Al-Sheikh region of Egypt is where Jews and Westerners entertain [themselves] and commit adultery. It is also the spot where Israelis and Americans come to bargain. In this context, striking there [in Sharm Al-Sheikh] is an important blow dealt to imperialism'..."

(1) El Kaide, the Turkish spelling of 'Al-Qaida'.
(2) The Great East Islamic Raiders Front (IBDA-C) was established in the mid-1970's by a faction of the youth group of former Turkish prime minister Erbakan's MSP (National Salvation Party), which was outlawed during the 1980 military intervention. This organization had claimed the responsibility for the two synagogue attacks in Istanbul on November 15, 2003. For excerpts from another publication of IBDA-C (the monthly magazine Aylik) see MEMRI Special Dispatch #916. (http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP91605)
(3) Tempo Dergisi, August 3, 2005.
(4) ANAP is the Motherland Party (Anavatan Partisi) of former Prime Minister Turgut Uzal.
(5) Venezuelan-born convicted terrorist Ilyich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as "Carlos The Jackal", converted to Islam and in 2003 published a book titled Revolutionary Islam in which he praises Osama bin Laden. See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3022358.stm.
(6) Koran 8:39.
(7) Aksam, August 2, 2005.
(8) Kasimpasa is a neighborhood in Istanbul which is often associated with P.M. Erdogan, who grew up there.
(9) Milliyet, August 2, 2005.
(10) Cumhuriyet, August 2, 2005.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 1:48:53 AM EDT
One word: NUKES. The sooner the better.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:22:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:34:07 AM EDT
I'm not concerned about what their printing, I'm concerned about how many are reading it.
If their reader base is all of 5, aint much to worry about.
If their reader base is 500,000 then we've got some serious issues we're facing
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 2:36:25 AM EDT
I'll let SGTAR15 do the talking for me on the subject of Islamofascists....
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 3:23:43 AM EDT
The Crusades, it`s faanntastic! These brainwashed bastards of the universe can not be dealt with......eerrr never mind, the ROP hasn`t anything to do with the root cause of this, back to my easy chair and cheesy poofs.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:40:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
I'm not concerned about what their printing, I'm concerned about how many are reading it.
If their reader base is all of 5, aint much to worry about.
If their reader base is 500,000 then we've got some serious issues we're facing

whats 1% of 1.5billion?
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