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Posted: 1/16/2015 9:00:47 AM EST
Army Times

Stars and Stripes

LA Times

Female soldiers will be allowed to attend Ranger School in April as part of a one-time, integrated assessment, the Army announced Thursday.

The assessment is part of a wider effort to determine whether and how to open combat arms jobs to women. This assessment will be a first for the storied Ranger School, which until now has been open only to men.
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Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:02:28 AM EST
I doubt they make it through unless the Army makes the decision that they will pass.
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Yeah, that whirring sound you hear.. That's my father and the thousands that went before and after him through ranger training, spinning in their fucking graves.

When do they officially start? If they have a month or so, I bet at least a few end up pregnant.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:04:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Hopefully they follow the Marines lead and fail them out when they inevitably fail instead of coddling them along.
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This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:04:51 AM EST
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Umm....yeah.

Georgia should be a blast for them...
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:07:30 AM EST
April course, eh? Springtime Rangers. Have them fucking report in January if you want a real test. Or July.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Hopefully they follow the Marines lead and fail them out when they inevitably fail instead of coddling them along.


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
The Army doesn't have the balls to tell the politicians to go fuck themselves like the Marines do.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:11:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By anesvick:
The Army doesn't have the balls to tell the politicians to go fuck themselves like the Marines do.
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Originally Posted By anesvick:
Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Hopefully they follow the Marines lead and fail them out when they inevitably fail instead of coddling them along.


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
The Army doesn't have the balls to tell the politicians to go fuck themselves like the Marines do.



I have to agree
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Hopefully they follow the Marines lead and fail them out when they inevitably fail instead of coddling them along.


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.


This.

If they can pass to the current standard, then let them.

If not, then no leniency... same standards as the men.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:16:38 AM EST
If they can meet the same standards as the men?
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Umm....yeah.

Georgia should be a blast for them...
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You'd never see me trying it.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:20:06 AM EST
My friend, a former Ranger Instructor, told me that when the first woman is "Allowed" to graduate, he will remove any and all Ranger references from his life. He will drop out of any groups he is in, send his badges,awards,medals back to the Ranger school and burn his uniforms.


I go along with his sentiments.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:21:00 AM EST
Welcome to the bloody Rangers mate...
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Originally Posted By soldier65:
My friend, a former Ranger Instructor, told me that when the first woman is "Allowed" to graduate, he will remove any and all Ranger references from his life. He will drop out of any groups he is in, send his badges,awards,medals back to the Ranger school and burn his uniforms.


I go along with his sentiments.
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Let me try to understand this: does he mean that if the standards are lowered for her to 'pass' then he will do this?
if that is the case then I totally support his and your points of view.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:22:21 AM EST
This is good news for overweight over the hill guys. Soon I will be able to be a Ranger too after they lower the standards.


Funny some of you guys say "IF" they lower standards. You think they made this decision thinking its ok if they pass the current regs........ahh grasshopper you are very foolish.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:22:49 AM EST
I'd like me to know the tax payer expense for this failure.
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I'd like me to know the tax payer expense for this failure.
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Obviously, it's just a budget surplus the school had from holding quarterly cake sales.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:27:19 AM EST
lol
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:27:43 AM EST
Good luck to them. My only regret in my Army career is not going to Ranger School after FAOBC. Oh well.

In any case, respect to these women for having the guts to be the first. They're not only going to face a difficult school, but also a tidal wave of sexist doubt for the rest of their careers as to their deserving of the tab. (If they make it, that is)
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Last hard class was 25 years ago
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 9:32:08 AM EST
None shall pass!!

At least in the first class. None can make it through day one of USMC Infantry Officer School, and if the Rangers have one pass, then the connections to "Oh, USMC IOS is harder than Ranger school." will naturally be made. Rangers are gonna avoid this at all costs.

It's a stacked deck.
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Originally Posted By Squatch:
Good luck to them. My only regret in my Army career is not going to Ranger School after FAOBC. Oh well.

In any case, respect to these women for having the guts to be the first. They're not only going to face a difficult school, but also a tidal wave of sexist doubt for the rest of their careers as to their deserving of the tab. (If they make it, that is)
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Guts? No, its big army pandering, nothing more.

Standards will be lowered you can bet on that.

I seriously doubt any of these "females" can pass a pre-ranger assessment.
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Originally Posted By ranger327:
Last hard class was 25 years ago
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I'm guessing thats when you went?
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Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:

Let me try to understand this: does he mean that if the standards are lowered for her to 'pass' then he will do this?
if that is the case then I totally support his and your points of view.
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Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:
Originally Posted By soldier65:
My friend, a former Ranger Instructor, told me that when the first woman is "Allowed" to graduate, he will remove any and all Ranger references from his life. He will drop out of any groups he is in, send his badges,awards,medals back to the Ranger school and burn his uniforms.


I go along with his sentiments.

Let me try to understand this: does he mean that if the standards are lowered for her to 'pass' then he will do this?
if that is the case then I totally support his and your points of view.
Yes. If they lower the standards from when he was a student and then an Instructor he will have nothing to do with them.

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Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:

Let me try to understand this: does he mean that if the standards are lowered for her to 'pass' then he will do this?
if that is the case then I totally support his and your points of view.
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Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:
Originally Posted By soldier65:
My friend, a former Ranger Instructor, told me that when the first woman is "Allowed" to graduate, he will remove any and all Ranger references from his life. He will drop out of any groups he is in, send his badges,awards,medals back to the Ranger school and burn his uniforms.


I go along with his sentiments.

Let me try to understand this: does he mean that if the standards are lowered for her to 'pass' then he will do this?
if that is the case then I totally support his and your points of view.


How many times do I have to profess my admiration for you before my wife bans me from arf?
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Originally Posted By evo7011:



Guts? No, its big army pandering, nothing more.

Standards will be lowered you can bet on that.

I seriously doubt any of these "females" can pass a pre-ranger assessment.
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Originally Posted By evo7011:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
Good luck to them. My only regret in my Army career is not going to Ranger School after FAOBC. Oh well.

In any case, respect to these women for having the guts to be the first. They're not only going to face a difficult school, but also a tidal wave of sexist doubt for the rest of their careers as to their deserving of the tab. (If they make it, that is)



Guts? No, its big army pandering, nothing more.

Standards will be lowered you can bet on that.

I seriously doubt any of these "females" can pass a pre-ranger assessment.


QED
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:


Will they all look like Shannon Faulkner?
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
In any case, respect to these women for having the guts to be the first. They're not only going to face a difficult school, but also a tidal wave of sexist doubt for the rest of their careers as to their deserving of the tab. (If they make it, that is)

Lol.


Will they all look like Shannon Faulkner?


or this one http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/officer/2015/01/11/erin-mauldin-valedictorian-west-point-rhodes-scholar/21394373/

I would be ok with it if all the woman were similiar to Ronda Rousey, but you and I both know that is simply not the case.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 10:57:53 AM EST
The standards have been lowered enough in the regular army
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:00:47 AM EST
My friend Steve was a fire captain and said only 2 women ever passed their test. One was an Olympic class athlete. I'm sure it will take a bit more than athleticism to pass.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:10:07 AM EST
No American woman will go 90 days with little sleep and food.

















Shit, I wouldn't, and didn't do it. Fuck that noise. Mechanized Infantry FTW!
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:19:49 AM EST
I understand that there will now be two standards and that any Ranger that passes under the modified standards will be authorized to secure their tab to their uniform with pink thread. I'm glad to see Big Army is checking their privilege and breaking out of the hetero cage.
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or this one http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/officer/2015/01/11/erin-mauldin-valedictorian-west-point-rhodes-scholar/21394373/

I would be ok with it if all the woman were similiar to Ronda Rousey, but you and I both know that is simply not the case.
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Originally Posted By evo7011:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Originally Posted By Squatch:
In any case, respect to these women for having the guts to be the first. They're not only going to face a difficult school, but also a tidal wave of sexist doubt for the rest of their careers as to their deserving of the tab. (If they make it, that is)

Lol.


Will they all look like Shannon Faulkner?


or this one http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/officer/2015/01/11/erin-mauldin-valedictorian-west-point-rhodes-scholar/21394373/

I would be ok with it if all the woman were similiar to Ronda Rousey, but you and I both know that is simply not the case.

Not to poo-poo her achievement, but I knew a Ranger who went through the French Commando course as an old man (40ish IIRC) and he said it was no walk in the park but not as challenging as some other schools he had been to.
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Originally Posted By twistedcomrade:
I doubt they make it through unless the Army makes the decision that they will pass.
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*ding*
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:30:21 AM EST
So when they drop out of Ranger school are the SEAL's next?
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Hopefully they follow the Marines lead and fail them out when they inevitably fail instead of coddling them along.


This. Standards are standards, at least for now.


Until they fail and lower them because they are unfair, this is a systematic dismantling of our armed forces! They are purposely going after the backbone of the military and the spec-ops.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 11:45:31 AM EST
#waronwomen

I'll become a believer in the cause when they're forced to register for selective service.

Until then...


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No American woman will go 90 days with little sleep and food.

















Shit, I wouldn't, and didn't do it. Fuck that noise. Mechanized Infantry FTW!
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DEATH BEFORE DISMOUNT
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Originally Posted By soldier65:
My friend, a former Ranger Instructor, told me that when the first woman is "Allowed" to graduate, he will remove any and all Ranger references from his life. He will drop out of any groups he is in, send his badges,awards,medals back to the Ranger school and burn his uniforms.

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I go along with his sentiments.

Well that is certainly a reasonable, mature adult reaction.....


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Originally Posted By TokerM:
None shall pass!!

At least in the first class. None can make it through day one of USMC Infantry Officer School, and if the Rangers have one pass, then the connections to "Oh, USMC IOS is harder than Ranger school." will naturally be made. Rangers are gonna avoid this at all costs.

It's a stacked deck.
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Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:30:58 PM EST
They're sending female soldiers through Ranger school before they're putting any through infantry school? Did I miss something?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:33:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
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They can't even peer out foreign troops anymore since the 80s, they stole their berets. I doubt it will end up a good thing for Rangers.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:36:45 PM EST
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I would be ok with it if all the woman were similiar to Ronda Rousey, but you and I both know that is simply not the case.
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Ronda Rousey said she wouldn't fight Fallon Fox (a dude who likes to hit girls). Ronda Rousey knows men and women are built different, and doesn't have an agenda to push.

She hangs around people considerably tougher than her and while she maybe could pass, she'd probably not try it because she knows it'd be physically destructive to herself and that she'd probably not pass for the same reason lots of stronger men don't pass - it's just beyond their limits.
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They're sending female soldiers through Ranger school before they're putting any through infantry school? Did I miss something?
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Didn't see it in the article, but I'm guessing it's just officers.

There was an article a few months back with some general whining about how difficult it is to advance as an officer without a tab or a scroll (I forget which is for RR and which is for R school), and how that limits women officers (and weaklings like him) from being able to reach the highest levels of the Army.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:42:11 PM EST
what a load of shit this whole deal is.

fucking progressives will be the death of us
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