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Posted: 7/6/2001 2:39:58 PM EDT
I am thinking of getting a Beretta/Taurus small pistols in .22 or .32. Anybody fired them and have opinions on them?
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 2:42:36 PM EDT
and by that I mean Beretta 21 and Bobcat(Tomcat?)
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 2:46:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 2:52:00 PM EDT
My idea of a "winky-dink" is the new Kahr P7 9mm I bought for concealed carry. Great for carry when I can't or don't want to carry my 1911. 9mm is as small as I will go for carry. I have the Beretta 21 but I think of it more as a rat gun than anything else, I have not shot it very much but it has been reliable with no problems. My wife bought it for me as an anniversary gift last year.
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 3:06:30 PM EDT
I got a Beretta 21 in 22lr. Blued with wood grip. Beautiful little pistol. For a little pistol it is very accurate and reliable. With CCI Mini-mag solid I don't think I ever had a FTF. I usually shoot paper with it but did take it to hunt Buffo Toads in my back yard at night several times. Pistol worked great and I got my limit on Buffos several times.
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 3:33:44 PM EDT
My Beretta 21 in .22lr also suffers from reliability problems. With some brands of ammo, it is no better than a single shot. But Stingers work great in it, though their high price really defeated my purpose in getting a .22lr. The .25acp model is supposedly more reliable. My vote goes to the kel-tec P32, an outstanding little gun, so small, light, and thin it's like a toy.
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 3:59:19 PM EDT
Id also take the Kel Tec 32 over the Berreta.NAA also is coming out with a 380 Gaurdian.As Seecamp has.Probally wont be long before Kel-Tec follows
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 4:27:26 PM EDT
Winky Dink[?] never mind........
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 4:47:53 PM EDT
I have the Beretta in 22 LR. It has NOT been a reliable pistol, I would NEVER use it for defensive purposes. If you want something for your wife for a defensive gun she would be much better off with a 357 Mag revolver. You can put 38 special ammo in it if she does not like the full power 357 rounds. I finally got mine working fairly well by cutting coils off the 2 recoil springs and also cutting coils off the hammer spring. I still have the gun but would NEVER use is as a defensive piece. Hope that helps....
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 5:40:24 PM EDT
I'd say forget the Berreta. I have heard bad things about the Tomcat, one being that it is designed to hold up for only a 1000 rounds. If you are hell bent for a .32, I would advise getting the NAA Guardian. Lots of accesories available for these pistols, holsters and such. I am leaning toward getting their .380, myself. [img]http://www.pistolmikes.com/Pistols/grdcvr.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 6:17:51 PM EDT
IMHO, the kel-tec's has many advantages over the NAA. It weights [b]6.6oz[/b], whereas the NAA weighs 13.5 (a very important fact in ccw), it's lock breached, instead of blowback, and has a 5lb trigger pull in stead of the [b]13lb[/b]pull of the NAA. Both companies are coming out with a .380 version of each soon.
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 6:19:50 PM EDT
I have a Taurus PT22 (.22 lr). I have been carrying it off and on for 3 years now. I have fired about 300 rounds through it and had it stove pipe on me twice but I think it was the ammo. It's reliable, easy to load & Clean. Also very easy to conceal. Overall it was worth the $139 investment. John Here's a pic: [img]albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=51205&a=532526&p=11727872&Sequence=1&res=high[/img]
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 7:04:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Avtomat: IMHO, the kel-tec's has many advantages over the NAA. It weights [b]6.6oz[/b], whereas the NAA weighs 13.5 (a very important fact in ccw), it's lock breached, instead of blowback, and has a 5lb trigger pull in stead of the [b]13lb[/b]pull of the NAA. Both companies are coming out with a .380 version of each soon.
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You make some good points. The NAA .380 is out, but availability is as yet limited. I do not like buying anything when it first comes out anyway. The NAA .380 has a 10 lb trigger pull, which is not unreasonable and triggers can be improved. Myself, I prefer an exposed hammer, and small pocket pistols with light triggers make me nervous, at least when it comes to carrying them. I have been carrying my Sig 228 or my 229, about 30 oz. unloaded. 1/2 that would be a relief! I will be looking at the Kel Tec .380, when it comes out. It never hurts to compare.
Link Posted: 7/6/2001 7:10:06 PM EDT
I have a Taurus PT22 that I inherited and it's accuracy amazes me. Also I have not had a malfunction, and i've put about 400 rounds through it.
Link Posted: 7/7/2001 7:50:26 AM EDT
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