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Posted: 6/13/2009 9:39:00 PM EDT
I am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a WC CQB compact with the steel frame. My carry set up as of now is a Kimber Pro CDP II in an M-tac holster or sometimes a VMII. The Wilson has a shorter grip, but my concern is the extra 7 ounces that the wilson weighs. I do carry all day, for hours at a time. Anybody have any input on this? Will the 7 ounces be that big of a deal?
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I doubt you would notice the 1/3 of a pound difference. The amount of comfort you should take from the awesome 1911 by Wilson should be more than enough to offset the weight. Plus if you load with 185 grain bullets that would be like...what....-45 grains x how ever many bullets you carry.
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With an MTAC or VersaMaxII I highly doubt it. Especially with a quality gunbelt.
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Go Glock =less weight, more rounds, better reliability I have a G19. I shoot 1911s much better for some reason. |
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do 10 more pushups in the morning should cover it....
seriously you will be fine |
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I am 6'2'', 180#, have a full size 1911 and wear a milt sparks vm2 and i can wear tshirts and no one would be the wiser. it is simple and easy to conceal.
Nice choice, I wanted a WIlson CQB, but settled on a Valor (and bought another gun with the difference ) |
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Get the Wilson. Don't look back. 6 months from now, you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner.
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I doubt you would notice the 1/3 of a pound difference. The amount of comfort you should take from the awesome 1911 by Wilson should be more than enough to offset the weight. Plus if you load with 185 grain bullets that would be like...what....-45 grains x how ever many bullets you carry. +1 Well said! |
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I've never carried a 1911 with an aluminum frame, but I've held the two side by side and if/when I go back to the 1911, it won't be one with a steel frame.
But with a good belt and holster, I doubt you'll really notice the extra weight difference. |
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Go Glock =less weight, more rounds, better reliability Que the picture of how a glock works. |
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Buy a Glock. Jesus Christ this shit gets old. You're worse than the fucking apple users I agree, but you have to kinda expect answers to every question except what you originally asked in GD. |
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I carry a full size, all steel 1911 without problems. With a good belt/holster it's a non issue.
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I've never carried a 1911 with an aluminum frame, but I've held the two side by side and if/when I go back to the 1911, it won't be one with a steel frame. But with a good belt and holster, I doubt you'll really notice the extra weight difference. Ah, but go to the range with said alumnium framed 1911, and run through a couple hundred rounds for practice...and you will practically beg for the steel frame back. The alumnium frame makes it (in my opinion) much worse to shoot. I had a Colt Commander with alloy frame, and I could not get rid of it fast enough. It was great to carry, nice and light...but holy christ was it a bitch to shoot comfortably for an extended session. I first tried a Kimber Ultra Raptor, and it was outright painful...I figured because of it's size. I tried the Commander...again, almost painful when shooting a lot. I then shot (and now carry at times) a Detonics CombatMaster...and the springing and the steel frame make all of the differnence in the world. It's actually comfortable to shoot, for a micro 1911. My normal carry is a Colt Combat Elite, or a Colt Gov't Model (S70 repro). All of which are a joy at the range. Never a bobble in any of them. And to whomever mentioned Glocks...Glocks are nice if you're lazy and don't feel like maintaining your gear. Every Glock person I've ever encountered poo-poos the 1911 because instead of buying or trying a good one (like a semi-custom Wilson, or a newer stock Colt)...they decided to go with the worst possible brands of 1911 you can buy (Taurus, Rock Island, Para-Ord, etc)....and were surprised when it broke or failed to run right. That's like buying an early 90's Buick today and expecting to get another 10 years of reliable transportation out of it, while getting 40mpg. It MIGHT happen, but I sure as hell wouldn't bank on it. |
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I carry a full size, all steel 1911 without problems. With a good belt/holster it's a non issue. +1 With a good belt and holster you could carry a Desert Eagle made out of pure lead and it would still be comfortable and concealable. I wouldn't go swimming with it though |
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Quoted: Quoted: Buy a Glock. Jesus Christ this shit gets old. You're worse than the fucking apple users What did you expect when you posted a serious question in GD, a boatload full of intelligent responses? While the Handgun forum is starting to get some of the GD type crap, it's still far better than GD for any question involving handguns. You'll notice the extra weight at first, but with a good holster and belt you'll forget about it in a few days. |
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I am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a WC CQB compact with the steel frame. My carry set up as of now is a Kimber Pro CDP II in an M-tac holster or sometimes a VMII. The Wilson has a shorter grip, but my concern is the extra 7 ounces that the wilson weighs. I do carry all day, for hours at a time. Anybody have any input on this? Will the 7 ounces be that big of a deal? I would gladly carry an extra pound and a half to get a weapon with a better track record than a Kimber. |
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Go Glock =less weight, more rounds, better reliability I have a G19. I shoot 1911s much better for some reason. Probably because of how forgiving the crisp 4.5 pound trigger of a custom 1911 is. Glocks are much less forgiving if you mess up in the trigger control department. |
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I switch back and forth between aluminum/steel/plastic frames, depending on clothing. The big difference will be the belt.
If you are wearing LW dress slacks with a single thickness belt, the steel gun will droop. With jeans and a double thickness belt, not a problem. |
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Go Glock =less weight, more rounds, better reliability I have a G19. I shoot 1911s much better for some reason. Probably because of how forgiving the crisp 4.5 pound trigger of a custom 1911 is. Glocks are much less forgiving if you mess up in the trigger control department. Good point, and the Wilson I am looking at is a 3.5 pound trigger, even better! |
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You're going to love it compared to your kimber.
Why do glock lovers troll every 1911 thread? It's funny to even hear someone compare a Wilson Combat 1911 to a Glock, there is absolutely NO comparison. I'll take a glock 21 over a Kimber, but lets get serious here. |
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Better experiment....find something about 1/2 lb heavier than your Kimber....say a McDonalds Double Quarter Pounder. Leave it in the wrapper and stuff it in the nearest pocket to your Kimber (to show the proper weight distribution). Can you carry it all day long without noticing the weight?
(Seriously, I don't have either of the pistols in question...but get 7 oz of Lead fishing weights, a roll of Quarters, etc....put it near the Kimber and see what difference it makes). AFARR |
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I carry my Wilson CQB Elite pretty much 24/7, regardless of my mode of dress.
I've toyed with the idea of picking up a CQB Compact as a BUG (I'm moving more and more in favor of the New York Reload each day). Unless you're 5'1 and 125 pounds, you'll be fine, bru. ETA Aluminum-framed 1911s make Baby Jesus gnash and wail. |
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If the 7 ounces is too much for you to handle, get a stairstepper.
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I'm 5'9, 165 pounds and my EDC is a full size Ed Brown SF in a VMII, I don't even know I'm carrying it. Make sure you have a good belt(ie 5.11) and you will be fine. ETA, my BUG is a S&W 340pd i pocket carry.
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Wilson makes a better gun than Kimber hands down. You'll be happy with it.
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Good point, and the Wilson I am looking at is a 3.5 pound trigger, even better! Trigger control is a training issue, and frankly I would encourage you to spend money and effort obtaining good quality training and then learning to master the trigger control issue rather than relying on the 1911's trigger. It is forgiving, but that can very easily turn into a crutch. |
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I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case. http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg That is a beautiful gun! If you don't mind me asking, about how much would something like that cost? |
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I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case. http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg Hey, have you got any picks of the feed ramp? I'm interested in seeing how the Wilson wears... |
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I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case. http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg That is a beautiful gun! If you don't mind me asking, about how much would something like that cost? I'm not familiar with the cost on that particular model, but seeing that it's a Wilson odds are you are looking at the sunny side of 2 grand. |
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I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case. http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg That is a beautiful gun! If you don't mind me asking, about how much would something like that cost? I'm not familiar with the cost on that particular model, but seeing that it's a Wilson odds are you are looking at the sunny side of 2 grand. The 'entry level' on a WC is about $2,650 for a CQB, plus whatever options you want. |
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Wow! I wish I had the means to put that kind of money on a 1911. Guns like that really are a work of art.
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Or, you could spend a lot less and get a SIG 220.
I'd love to have a CQB but I just can't justify the cost. |
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Buy a Glock. Jesus Christ this shit gets old. You're worse than the fucking apple usersOBAMA VOTERS fixed |
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