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Posted: 6/13/2009 8:39:00 PM EST
I am pretty close to pulling the trigger on a WC CQB compact with the steel frame. My carry set up as of now is a Kimber Pro CDP II in an M-tac holster or sometimes a VMII. The Wilson has a shorter grip, but my concern is the extra 7 ounces that the wilson weighs. I do carry all day, for hours at a time. Anybody have any input on this? Will the 7 ounces be that big of a deal?
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:04:10 PM EST
I doubt you would notice the 1/3 of a pound difference. The amount of comfort you should take from the awesome 1911 by Wilson should be more than enough to offset the weight. Plus if you load with 185 grain bullets that would be like...what....-45 grains x how ever many bullets you carry.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:10:40 PM EST
Buy a Glock.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:10:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/13/2009 9:13:04 PM EST by kap_x]
With an MTAC or VersaMaxII I highly doubt it. Especially with a quality gunbelt.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:11:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/13/2009 9:11:47 PM EST by kap_x]

Originally Posted By mayoroscarmayer:
Buy a Glock.

Jesus Christ this shit gets old.
You're worse than the fucking apple users
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:14:14 PM EST
Go Glock

=less weight, more rounds, better reliability
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:25:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By Zedhead:
Go Glock

=less weight, more rounds, better reliability


I have a G19. I shoot 1911s much better for some reason.

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:39:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:44:04 AM EST
I am 6'2'', 180#, have a full size 1911 and wear a milt sparks vm2 and i can wear tshirts and no one would be the wiser. it is simple and easy to conceal.

Nice choice, I wanted a WIlson CQB, but settled on a Valor (and bought another gun with the difference )
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:44:29 AM EST
Get the Wilson. Don't look back. 6 months from now, you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:46:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By ten-ring:
I doubt you would notice the 1/3 of a pound difference. The amount of comfort you should take from the awesome 1911 by Wilson should be more than enough to offset the weight. Plus if you load with 185 grain bullets that would be like...what....-45 grains x how ever many bullets you carry.


+1

Well said!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:47:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:50:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By Zedhead:
Go Glock

=less weight, more rounds, better reliability


Que the picture of how a glock works.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:52:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:03:08 AM EST
I carry a full size, all steel 1911 without problems. With a good belt/holster it's a non issue.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:22:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By Quintin:
I've never carried a 1911 with an aluminum frame, but I've held the two side by side and if/when I go back to the 1911, it won't be one with a steel frame.

But with a good belt and holster, I doubt you'll really notice the extra weight difference.


Ah, but go to the range with said alumnium framed 1911, and run through a couple hundred rounds for practice...and you will practically beg for the steel frame back. The alumnium frame makes it (in my opinion) much worse to shoot. I had a Colt Commander with alloy frame, and I could not get rid of it fast enough. It was great to carry, nice and light...but holy christ was it a bitch to shoot comfortably for an extended session. I first tried a Kimber Ultra Raptor, and it was outright painful...I figured because of it's size. I tried the Commander...again, almost painful when shooting a lot. I then shot (and now carry at times) a Detonics CombatMaster...and the springing and the steel frame make all of the differnence in the world. It's actually comfortable to shoot, for a micro 1911. My normal carry is a Colt Combat Elite, or a Colt Gov't Model (S70 repro). All of which are a joy at the range. Never a bobble in any of them.

And to whomever mentioned Glocks...Glocks are nice if you're lazy and don't feel like maintaining your gear. Every Glock person I've ever encountered poo-poos the 1911 because instead of buying or trying a good one (like a semi-custom Wilson, or a newer stock Colt)...they decided to go with the worst possible brands of 1911 you can buy (Taurus, Rock Island, Para-Ord, etc)....and were surprised when it broke or failed to run right. That's like buying an early 90's Buick today and expecting to get another 10 years of reliable transportation out of it, while getting 40mpg. It MIGHT happen, but I sure as hell wouldn't bank on it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:23:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By TW52:
I carry a full size, all steel 1911 without problems. With a good belt/holster it's a non issue.


+1

With a good belt and holster you could carry a Desert Eagle made out of pure lead and it would still be comfortable and concealable. I wouldn't go swimming with it though

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:34:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By kap_x:

Originally Posted By mayoroscarmayer:
Buy a Glock.

Jesus Christ this shit gets old.
You're worse than the fucking apple users

What did you expect when you posted a serious question in GD, a boatload full of intelligent responses? While the Handgun forum is starting to get some of the GD type crap, it's still far better than GD for any question involving handguns.

You'll notice the extra weight at first, but with a good holster and belt you'll forget about it in a few days.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:35:58 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:38:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 6:38:13 AM EST
7 ounces isn't going to add to a hill of beans.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:54:00 AM EST
I switch back and forth between aluminum/steel/plastic frames, depending on clothing. The big difference will be the belt.
If you are wearing LW dress slacks with a single thickness belt, the steel gun will droop. With jeans and a double thickness belt, not a problem.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:09:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By ModernDayIsraelite:
Originally Posted By Zedhead:
Go Glock

=less weight, more rounds, better reliability


I have a G19. I shoot 1911s much better for some reason.



Probably because of how forgiving the crisp 4.5 pound trigger of a custom 1911 is. Glocks are much less forgiving if you mess up in the trigger control department.



Good point, and the Wilson I am looking at is a 3.5 pound trigger, even better!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:25:56 AM EST
You're going to love it compared to your kimber.

Why do glock lovers troll every 1911 thread? It's funny to even hear someone compare a Wilson Combat 1911 to a Glock, there is absolutely NO comparison. I'll take a glock 21 over a Kimber, but lets get serious here.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:30:24 AM EST
Better experiment....find something about 1/2 lb heavier than your Kimber....say a McDonalds Double Quarter Pounder. Leave it in the wrapper and stuff it in the nearest pocket to your Kimber (to show the proper weight distribution). Can you carry it all day long without noticing the weight?


(Seriously, I don't have either of the pistols in question...but get 7 oz of Lead fishing weights, a roll of Quarters, etc....put it near the Kimber and see what difference it makes).

AFARR
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:31:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 9:33:12 AM EST by Evil_ATF]
I carry my Wilson CQB Elite pretty much 24/7, regardless of my mode of dress.

I've toyed with the idea of picking up a CQB Compact as a BUG (I'm moving more and more in favor of the New York Reload each day).

Unless you're 5'1 and 125 pounds, you'll be fine, bru.

ETA
Aluminum-framed 1911s make Baby Jesus gnash and wail.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:31:20 AM EST
If the 7 ounces is too much for you to handle, get a stairstepper.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:33:51 AM EST


Lift more weights.


Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:34:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By mayoroscarmayer:
Buy a Glock.





Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:34:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2009 9:35:16 AM EST by 2000Z3M]
I'm 5'9, 165 pounds and my EDC is a full size Ed Brown SF in a VMII, I don't even know I'm carrying it. Make sure you have a good belt(ie 5.11) and you will be fine. ETA, my BUG is a S&W 340pd i pocket carry.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:38:58 AM EST
Wilson makes a better gun than Kimber hands down. You'll be happy with it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 1:30:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 1:47:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 1:48:57 AM EST by JETWC]
I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:05:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By JETWC:
I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case.
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg


That is a beautiful gun! If you don't mind me asking, about how much would something like that cost?
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 2:25:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By JETWC:
I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case.
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg


Hey, have you got any picks of the feed ramp?

I'm interested in seeing how the Wilson wears...
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:34:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:37:03 AM EST
The wrong holster will make even a Kel Tec P32 weigh a ton.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 3:59:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Originally Posted By JETWC:
I have a Wilson Combat Lightweight Stealth that is almost identical in size to the CQB carry. For an all day carry gun I'd spend the extra money for the alloy frame PERSONALLY. My Stealth has always been 100% accurate and much easier to carry than a full size steel framed gun. If you're concerned about the durability of the alloy frame, I wouldn't be. Wilsons lifetime warranty will always cover any problems you might run into. I wouldn't expect any issues actually but know that WC has one of the best customer service dept. in the gun industry.... just in case.
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43695/2453039630010258782S600x600Q85.jpg


That is a beautiful gun! If you don't mind me asking, about how much would something like that cost?


I'm not familiar with the cost on that particular model, but seeing that it's a Wilson odds are you are looking at the sunny side of 2 grand.


The 'entry level' on a WC is about $2,650 for a CQB, plus whatever options you want.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:05:45 AM EST
Wow! I wish I had the means to put that kind of money on a 1911. Guns like that really are a work of art.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:29:07 AM EST
Or, you could spend a lot less and get a SIG 220.

I'd love to have a CQB but I just can't justify the cost.

Link Posted: 6/15/2009 10:32:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/15/2009 10:36:41 AM EST by Rattle_Snake]
Originally Posted By kap_x:

Originally Posted By mayoroscarmayer:
Buy a Glock.

Jesus Christ this shit gets old.
You're worse than the fucking apple usersOBAMA VOTERS


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