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Posted: 12/15/2005 10:26:54 AM EDT
Do you think we will ever add more states to the US? And if so who will be first Puerto Rico, Guam, Canada, etc....?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:28:55 AM EDT
I dont think the US is gonna exist in its current form much longer
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:29:24 AM EDT
Not unless we can make long island + NYC it's own state seperate from the rest of NY
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:30:05 AM EDT

Cuba, after the infidel is gone.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:30:24 AM EDT
My crystal ball is in the shop right now...
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:30:29 AM EDT
Let's hope not. We are overpopulated now with no end in sight.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:33:13 AM EDT
Who in their right mind would want to join the Union. They take all the tax money from your state and then give back what they think you should have. The state should collect ALL taxes and tithe to the Fedgov enought to operate certain agencies.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:35:49 AM EDT
Just some thoughts, but...


We'll likely add most of the Caribbean Basin, including Cuba, Haiti/Dominican Republic, Jamaica and Puerto Rico.



Also, the Upper Peninsula will break free from the tyranny known as Michigan!



Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:37:56 AM EDT
That's just what we need, a bunch of Yoopers with their own state!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:40:02 AM EDT
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:46:23 AM EDT
Although it is not technically a "State" - The District of Columbia.


Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming


Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:50:16 AM EDT
Of course it will.

I'd be all for adding Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland right now.

Unfortunately, it will be Mexico and Hispaniola and we'll all pay thru the nose for that little privilege.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:51:48 AM EDT
It is a violation of the US Const to take away a portion of a state to form another.

Sorry MI Youpers. We'd sure like to have ya.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:53:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cheaptrickfan:
Although it is not technically a "State" - The District of Columbia.


Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming





Dude he means the Caliban
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:54:04 AM EDT
I think it will happen. Peauto Rico is probably the closest example of a territory that is growing towards statehood. I would have to think that sooner or later it will get it.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:55:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 10:56:38 AM EDT by Hokie]
Seems we're retrofitting a few into the inventory
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:56:49 AM EDT
I think we've pretty much reached our limit. None of the protectorates have any interest in statehood, and I wonder if we shouldn't tell them to pick one way or the other, and if they DON'T want statehood, to cut them loose on their own.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:57:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jdessell:
I think it will happen. Peauto Rico is probably the closest example of a territory that is growing towards statehood. I would have to think that sooner or later it will get it.



PR will never get statehood for itself. Too small to give that much power to. The other states won't stand for it. It will have to be part of a larger state. Some Carribean state or added on as a part of FL perhaps.

Another, possibly is DC. I am against it but the socialists would have a wet dream over it.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:57:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 10:59:49 AM EDT by Alien]

Originally Posted By jdessell:
I think it will happen. Peauto Rico is probably the closest example of a territory that is growing towards statehood. I would have to think that sooner or later it will get it.



Didn't they have a vote a few years ago and they rejected statehood? Something to do with all of the benefits of being a state with none of the problems so they didn't want to?


Originally Posted By drjarhead:
PR will never get statehood for itself. Too small to give that much power to. The other states won't stand for it. It will have to be part of a larger state. Some Carribean state or added on as a part of FL perhaps.

Another, possibly is DC. I am against it but the socialists would have a wet dream over it.



You just said Puerto Rico is too small to have that much power but then said D.C. is a possibility? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:57:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 11:00:26 AM EDT by PAEBR332]

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
It is a violation of the US Const to take away a portion of a state to form another.

Sorry MI Youpers. We'd sure like to have ya.



No it's not. Article IV, Section 3 states:


New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.


A state can be broken up into two or more states, but the legislalture of the state being subdivided must agree to this division, as must Congress. West Virginia broke off from Virginia, which is the only time this has happened since the Constitution was ratified.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:59:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

hr



How about the socialist republic of Kali-ForNIA
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:17:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Alien:
isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?



D.C. = 600,000

PR = 4 million, not counting the goats
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:22:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming



No you're not, but it took me two looks to see what you're talking about.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:23:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead: I'd be all for adding Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland right now.
Yep, good people, extra land, and resources to boot!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:23:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cheaptrickfan:
Just some thoughts, but...


We'll likely add most of the Caribbean Basin, including Cuba, Haiti/Dominican Republic, Jamaica and Puerto Rico.




I fucking hope not.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:23:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By Alien:
isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?



D.C. = 600,000

PR = 4 million, not counting the goats



Puerto Rico is twice the size of Rhode Island
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:23:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By jdessell:
I think it will happen. Peauto Rico is probably the closest example of a territory that is growing towards statehood. I would have to think that sooner or later it will get it.



Didn't they have a vote a few years ago and they rejected statehood? Something to do with all of the benefits of being a state with none of the problems so they didn't want to?


Originally Posted By drjarhead:
PR will never get statehood for itself. Too small to give that much power to. The other states won't stand for it. It will have to be part of a larger state. Some Carribean state or added on as a part of FL perhaps.

Another, possibly is DC. I am against it but the socialists would have a wet dream over it.



You just said Puerto Rico is too small to have that much power but then said D.C. is a possibility? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?



They get more benefits.

For some reason they can put an excise tax on rum heading to the states.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:25:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NonConformist:
I dont think the US is gonna exist in its current form much longer



Don't hide behind this man. I belive the American experiment is failing also...
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:30:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 11:30:52 AM EDT by Hamel]

Originally Posted By Chokey:

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By Alien:
isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?



D.C. = 600,000

PR = 4 million, not counting the goats



Puerto Rico is twice the size of Rhode Island



Yeah, but they don't have nearly the number of Dunkin Donuts as we do so they have very little to offer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:31:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
It is a violation of the US Const to take away a portion of a state to form another.
.



Not quite, you CAN take a portion of a state away to form another IF you have congressional approval.

It has been done before.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:33:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hamel:

Originally Posted By Chokey:

Originally Posted By Hokie:

Originally Posted By Alien:
isn't D.C. quite a bit smaller than PR?



D.C. = 600,000

PR = 4 million, not counting the goats



Puerto Rico is twice the size of Rhode Island



Yeah, but they don't have nearly the number of Dunkin Donuts as we do so they have very little to offer.



Estoy de acuerdo contigo
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:38:09 AM EDT
Please, anything but Guam. The whole island is on welfare, corruption runs rampant, and they hate the military. Just keep sending them Spam (the meat not the email).
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:25:37 PM EDT
Several of the Canadian Provinces, Baja California. All of which assume a collapse of the current Canada and Mexico, California being divided in two might be one of the first changes. Scotland, Ireland, Breat Britain, they might take a bit longer
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:28:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 12:30:26 PM EDT by CasualObserver]
Well, maybe not statehood, but I'm pretty sure DC will get a representative pretty soon.

ETA:Edit for fat fingering.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:32:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:

Cuba, after the infidel is gone.



Today Rush was reading a thing called "head lines from 2029"

one of them was,

"Castro finally dies at 112"
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:59:16 PM EDT
I don't think there will be any more states added, rather countries will join together in some form of treaty with free trade and the ability for people to just immigrate freely in all of the countries.

The USA will then be destroyed.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:02:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
It is a violation of the US Const to take away a portion of a state to form another.
.



Not quite, you CAN take a portion of a state away to form another IF you have congressional approval.

It has been done before.



Correct. That is how MI got the UP inthe first place, after a land swap involving Ohio, IIRC.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:03:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cheaptrickfan:
Although it is not technically a "State" - The District of Columbia.


Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I only count 49 as of right now. Am I missing something here??

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont,
Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming




So which do you need reading comprehension? geography? or a government class?


I vote all three.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:09:48 PM EDT
After we invade them and straighten out their shit, Mexico would be the 51st state. Tha twould prety muchtake of the immigration problem.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:17:11 PM EDT
I can dream, can't I? Call it East California (or West Nevada).

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:20:18 PM EDT
if we added cuba I wouldnt mind, if you have any notion of the political climate there, post castro, I can tell you, based on the Cubans in Miami...and there voting tendincies...Cuba would be a red state for a long time....Cuban's historically are the strongest conservative leaning of all Hispanic groups, do your research and reading, it would only help the Repubs if Cuba was added, and to be honest once Castro (assuming he's mortal) leaves power....I wouldnt mind going there for some fun in the sun
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