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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:26:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas] [#1]
No, I hope they lose. Despite the UKR president begging for money non-stop and the country possibly being corrupt AF, Russia invaded a country that wasn't very much of a threat to them and that shouldn't be tolerated. The West has a small part to blame with talk of letting UKR into NATO, but the West (Western Europe and the US) are all about expanding control at the expense of the little guy.

In the end, I feel bad for the Ukrainian people (who have put up a great fight), the US taxpayer, and the poor schlub Russian solider (not the ones who did anything inappropriate to the UKR population, they should hang.)

I am still of the opinion that a fair amount of this was pushed on UKR and RUS by the West to degrade Russia to where they are no longer a power -or- get Putin booted and hopefully get someone in the who would play ball with the EU... Playing ball means doing what the EU tells you to do, including all the woke/climate change bullshit. I would have been totally okay with Russia invading Germany.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:27:30 AM EDT
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I don’t give a shit.

There are more than a few members here who are emotionally invested in Ukraine and reflexively lash out at skeptics.

It’s an interesting phenomenon that the liberals in my area who have the “In this house we believe” yard signs also have Ukraine flags.

Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:28:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
I wish they’d both lose.

I don’t give a shit about either and I’m sick of paying for this fleecing operation taking place.
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This^^

The US taxpayers are the real losers...
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:38:46 AM EDT
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Im waiting for Moscow subway bombing.
Go go go.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:40:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ubaddog:
Im waiting for Moscow subway bombing.
Go go go.
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I'm waiting for a Euro bio or chem attack
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:41:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chupacabras:
I don’t give a shit.

There are more than a few members here who are emotionally invested in Ukraine and reflexively lash out at skeptics.

It’s an interesting phenomenon that the liberals in my area who have the “In this house we believe” yard signs also have Ukraine flags.

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Twitter and other social media as well.  
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:43:38 AM EDT
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This is some incredibly stupid shit, predicated on the notion that there are a bunch of pro-Russian sycophants in America.


It is just as stupid as the 'Muh Russia' fabricated conspiracy that all the dipshit libtards fell for in 2016.



Putin is an oligarch cocksucker, just like we have a bunch of oligarch cocksuckers in charge of our government.

That doesn't mean that I want to give 40+ billion dollars to Ukraine just a few short years after democrats assured us that there was no possible way that we could spend 8 billion dollars securing our southern border.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:44:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Russian propaganda has been destroying American culture for the past 6 decades.

Unless Yuri was lying.
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Originally Posted By JTX23:


No matter who wins Americans lose.  Russia was a place we got Vodka from.  Fucking irrelevant for at least 2 decades but now fucking untold generations will spend their lives making the interest payments on the money printed to be laundered through Ukraine.

Russian propaganda has been destroying American culture for the past 6 decades.

Unless Yuri was lying.



That seed was planted in academia 60 years ago.  The USSR is dead.  We should be fighting the institutional communism being planted in the brains of our children.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:45:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:
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Maybe some of those commies who got smoked were friends of his.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:45:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

I'm waiting for a Euro bio or chem attack
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By Ubaddog:
Im waiting for Moscow subway bombing.
Go go go.

I'm waiting for a Euro bio or chem attack


Yes, Putin's style, anonymous downtown capital release,  it seems like decent kick in the nuts to bring to war to a few Euro home fronts.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:49:44 AM EDT
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If Trump’s boys Giuliani and Manafort hadn’t been balls deep in grifting off the Russian efforts to influence Ukraine then all the MAGA Bois wouldn’t be so fucked in the head about what is an undeniably righteous war for independence on Ukraines part.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:54:38 AM EDT
[#13]
Fuck Putin

Russia, I have these mixed feelings. If they could come out of their alcoholic and paranoid cultural morass dominated by insecturity over their unearned feelings of superiority, then maybe they'd realize their real threat is China, not the US, and we'd be natural allies.

But I think they'll continue as a corrupt oligarchy.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:55:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chupacabras:
I don't give a shit.

There are more than a few members here who are emotionally invested in Ukraine and reflexively lash out at skeptics.

It's an interesting phenomenon that the liberals in my area who have the "In this house we believe" yard signs also have Ukraine flags.

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Only UA flag I see on my 30 minute drive to work also has a FJB and LGB sign also.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:56:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
It's not over till it's over.

I really don't care about Russia globalism
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Fixed to reflect my belief.  

Russia is none of our bizness.  Globalists are more than happy to fight to the last Ukrainian.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:59:04 AM EDT
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I seriously don't give a single shit about either side.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 9:59:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vespid_Wasp:



That seed was planted in academia 60 years ago.  The USSR is dead.  We should be fighting the institutional communism being planted in the brains of our children.
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Get both?

Going off your seed analogy, Russia is still watering this seed. The plant and gardener both need dealt with.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:03:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By disco_jon75:
More or less butthurt than OP was when Kyle was found Not Guilty?
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I wonder if that was more or less butthurt than OP was when Mueller fizzled out?
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:10:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cancard:

More worried about Russia being boxed in a corner.
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This is the only worry... we've seen now the big Russian threat we've been sold is a lie.  Their conventional forces aren't a threat to us at all.

Box them in a corner and they may do something irrational.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:15:07 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:24:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Get both?

Going off your seed analogy, Russia is still watering this seed. The plant and gardener both need dealt with.
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Originally Posted By Vespid_Wasp:



That seed was planted in academia 60 years ago.  The USSR is dead.  We should be fighting the institutional communism being planted in the brains of our children.
Get both?

Going off your seed analogy, Russia is still watering this seed. The plant and gardener both need dealt with.






Russia is broke as fuck.  They are getting their shit pushed in by Ukraine.  The Russian economy is a complete joke aside from their energy stranglehold on Europe that Europe was stupid enough to not address decades ago.


Send Ukraine our outdated shit that is still useful, fine.  


The Russian boogeyman that we need to fight to save America is a complete fucking fabrication.  I feel bad for the people of Ukraine, as I would for anyone whose world turns into a warzone.  

That doesn't change the fact that US debt and spending is completely the fuck out of control and we are going to witness our own stagnation and decline very soon.   And when we are weak there is a damn good chance that China comes calling.......
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:24:43 AM EDT
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Meh, this "war" will be over by the end of the year, US billions will dry up shortly after, and once the China, Russia, India (etc) alliance grows stronger the Ukes will align themselves with Russia again.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:26:22 AM EDT
[#23]
No I will be happy. I could care less about Ukraine, I just want to see Russia get mommied. They definitely need it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:27:28 AM EDT
[#24]
No, I hope they lose bigly. I would love to see Putin and his cronies hanging from a yard arm.

Ultimately, I wish the Russian people would decide that another revolution is in order and drag themselves into the 21st century.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:27:57 AM EDT
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No, but I do fear that Putin may be crazy enough to go nuclear if desperate.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:31:16 AM EDT
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I'm not a huge fan of sending cash to ukraine.  If they use the weapons effectively, and evidence is that they are, I don't mind that so much.  Definitely rooting for ukraine as the underdog/victim but I'm not on board for zelensky 2024 like some of the nut huggers.


Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:32:44 AM EDT
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No need for all that.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:45:09 AM EDT
[#28]
No.
As corrupted as Ukraine may be, the ordinary people did not deserve what Russian aggression has done.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:52:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
I wish they’d both lose.

I don’t give a shit about either and I’m sick of paying for this fleecing operation taking place.
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 10:58:39 AM EDT
[#30]
The US/Europe is fighting a proxy war with Russia through Ukraine, and winning. Until this war started I never knew Russians were still so back ass minded and had orc like mentalities in this day and age. Only the Putin puffers and scared Armageddon cry babies will have hurt feelings.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:00:27 AM EDT
[#31]
Not so subtle troll thread.

These morons still don’t understand that you can hate Russia and still call out Ukraine at the same time.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:02:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
I wish they’d both lose.

I don’t give a shit about either and I’m sick of paying for this fleecing operation taking place.
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This.  Not our circus, not our monkeys.  Russia is ZERO threat to us.  The actual invasion at our border is…yall keep pushing billions into Biden’s crime syndicate…he appreciates it and your grandkids will be born slaves to pay for it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:07:21 AM EDT
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I won't be mad, but all I'm saying is $80 Billion could've housed a lot of homeless vets, gave medical attention to those vets who need it and keep our current troops off food stamps.

Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. Fuck anyone supporting the fleecing of our dollars to support this bullshit war. FIX FUCKING AMERICA FIRST.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:17:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Originally Posted By Corran_q:
I'll be happy to quit giving that shithole money

Post war rebuild $ https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1100501433/heres-how-much-it-could-cost-to-rebuild-ukraine-and-who-would-pay-for-ithttps://c.tenor.com/PG7TQGmTPoMAAAAd/are-you-serious-spiderman.gif

james biden construction gonna be rolling in that sweet, sweet US taxpayer chedda once again.  
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:19:14 AM EDT
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When it's over will fuckhead send money to Russia???
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:19:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:26:45 AM EDT
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Kyle should have been no billed and I do hope Russia loses. But damn that was pretty savage of you to be his reminder of
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:46:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HKD126:
I won't be mad, but all I'm saying is $80 Billion could've housed a lot of homeless vets, gave medical attention to those vets who need it and keep our current troops off food stamps.

Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. Fuck anyone supporting the fleecing of our dollars to support this bullshit war. FIX FUCKING AMERICA FIRST.
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The fucking thread about 25% of the fucking government "workers" not fucking coming into work forTWO FUCKING YEARS and getting fucking raises got barely 2 pages of responses.

You know that if you took that money from Ukraine that not a single dime would go to one single useful thing in this country.  It would go straight to turning your kids into transgender commies, or to the FBI to investigate you for being upset about  it.

Ukraine ain't the fucking problem.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:46:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FMJ3:

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It is astonishing how many here buy into the whole narrative.  Biden and his kid have a criminal enterprise in Ukraine.  Bam! surprise!  The left, the msm, and the .gov (the most dishonest and corrupt groups to ever exist who have literally lied about everything for the last 6 years)  send Billions and idiots support it.  Amazing.  Simply amazing.  It has however exposed some long time members here for their real intentions.
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:48:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
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I don’t see a way for Ukraine to take back much. At the end of the day Europe and America will become bored as we always do and stop supplying them. At that point the war will be very different.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:55:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
I wish they’d both lose.

I don’t give a shit about either and I’m sick of paying for this fleecing operation taking place.
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This.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:56:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/17/2022 11:59:43 AM EDT
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Russia should send me a UAZ 452 as reparations for my tax money.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:01:38 PM EDT
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I give not the slightest of fucks.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:05:13 PM EDT
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Нет, я ненавижу Путин, он злой человек я думаю.  

No, I hate Putin, I think he is an evil person.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:08:43 PM EDT
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The fucking thread about 25% of the fucking government "workers" not fucking coming into work forTWO FUCKING YEARS and getting fucking raises got barely 2 pages of responses.

You know that if you took that money from Ukraine that not a single dime would go to one single useful thing in this country.  It would go straight to turning your kids into transgender commies, or to the FBI to investigate you for being upset about  it.

Ukraine ain't the fucking problem.
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Originally Posted By HKD126:
I won't be mad, but all I'm saying is $80 Billion could've housed a lot of homeless vets, gave medical attention to those vets who need it and keep our current troops off food stamps.

Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. Fuck anyone supporting the fleecing of our dollars to support this bullshit war. FIX FUCKING AMERICA FIRST.




The fucking thread about 25% of the fucking government "workers" not fucking coming into work forTWO FUCKING YEARS and getting fucking raises got barely 2 pages of responses.

You know that if you took that money from Ukraine that not a single dime would go to one single useful thing in this country.  It would go straight to turning your kids into transgender commies, or to the FBI to investigate you for being upset about  it.

Ukraine ain't the fucking problem.

You know that the money part of the ukraine bailout is coming from the printing press not an already existing bucket of money.  

It wouldn't go anywhere else, they just made it up for this purpose and it will add to the inflationary pressures on our economy.

The big printers for ukraine won't get fired up until the rebuild starts.

You're right, ukraine ain't the problem, our politicians that don't understand economics and fiscal discipline are the problem.  Borrowing money you don't have in order to give it away is an awesome economic strategy.  

Let europe manage their own messes.  They suckled at that russian gas teat even after being warned of the consequences, but their socialism ain't gonna pay for itself so they had to cozy up to putin and now they gotta fleece the American taxpayers manage their mess.  
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:09:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RedDogMaster:

This^^

The US taxpayers are the real losers...
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While Europe isn’t on par with USA spending and while its their own backyard so it should be the case that they should be the ones doing the spending, Europe’s citizens are also on the hook too, including any rebuilding plans for Ukraine https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_5428
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:12:25 PM EDT
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I look forward to the day I can vacation in Crimea again, without Russia being in control of the place.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:17:34 PM EDT
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I just want to see the Russians flying the rainbow flag on their embassies. And badly passing trannies in charge of their nuclear weapons. We must spread the new American values far and wide. It is our greatest strength.
Link Posted: 9/17/2022 12:18:07 PM EDT
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no matter what we loose

that potato is going to keep pumping billions into Ukraine for his cut
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