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9/22/2017 12:11:25 AM
Posted: 2/22/2006 4:38:16 AM EDT
First looks like an odd cross between a Tokerov, 1911, and broomhandle Mauser:









Second is a knock of Beretta shotgun we think was made in Pakistan:





Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:40:21 AM EDT
I didn't know Beretta had a silent p.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:43:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
First looks like an odd cross between a Tokerov, 1911, and broomhandle Mauser:

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/gun1.jpg

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/gun2.jpg

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/gun3.jpg

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/gun4.jpg

Second is a knock of Beretta shotgun we think was made in Pakistan:

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/shotgun1.jpg

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/shotgun2.jpg

i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/shotgun3.jpg



Man....that....I guess it is a machine pistol.......It gives me wood!!!!

Pakistan is a remarkable place. You can get ANYTHING there.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:54:04 AM EDT
Rob Krott from SOF magazine did an article on the guns of the Kyber Pass a number of years ago, and had a pic of this same type of Mauser/Tokarev/Subgun hybrid. Now that's a Frankengun!

In Afghanistan I saw plenty of Enfield muzzleloader knockoffs for sale to Westerners, but didn't see any of the cool homemade AKs or any of these beauties.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 4:56:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I didn't know Beretta had a silent p.




First initial, IIRC. Piedro Beretta? Something like that. Not that I think he had anything to do with manufacturing that shotgun.....
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:02:16 AM EDT
Well at least it's made "as" Italy, not in Italy.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:02:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cjk1:
Rob Krott from SOF magazine did an article on the guns of the Kyber Pass a number of years ago, and had a pic of this same type of Mauser/Tokarev/Subgun hybrid. Now that's a Frankengun!

In Afghanistan I saw plenty of Enfield muzzleloader knockoffs for sale to Westerners, but didn't see any of the cool homemade AKs or any of these beauties.



Funny thing is it is semi-auto only, as mean as it looks.

Yeah plenty of knock off Enfields around Bagram..... gotta get out and about to find the cool stuff.

Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:02:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By efpeter:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I didn't know Beretta had a silent p.




First initial, IIRC. Piedro Beretta? Something like that. Not that I think he had anything to do with manufacturing that shotgun.....

Pietro, I think.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:03:17 AM EDT
Made as Italy...yeah, I guess so.........
Pretty cool machine pistol though. Haven't seen that before and I've seen a gun or two in my time.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:35:07 AM EDT

I've seen better engraving by Browning.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:36:34 AM EDT
Cool picture.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:37:52 AM EDT
Nifty neato
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:52:39 AM EDT
Looks like a Darra special to me.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:45:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2006 6:47:19 AM EDT by hardcorps1775]

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Pakistan is a remarkable place. You can get ANYTHING there.


yep, ANYTHING! which includes a piece that could blow up in your face too! not much quality control in that area...although them guns seem to get the desired job done.

cool pix! are those local made maks as well?
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:48:39 AM EDT
Too bad it's not "finders keepers" rules
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:59:51 AM EDT
Those gun works in Pakistan create some very unusual firearms.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 7:36:34 AM EDT
I WANT that Pakistani auto pistol!

Keep it away from me!
If I owned that, I'd be hunting and buying; Astras, Berman Bayards, Nambus, Lugers, Mausers, Toks.....

That's exactly how I get started; one historical pistol and the dam bursts.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 11:29:18 AM EDT
That pistol is so ugly it is sexy . Is it a one of a kind ?
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 11:38:22 AM EDT
That is way COOL !!! - it reminds me of a ROLLOEX watch i bought in Mexico !
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 11:41:28 AM EDT
So would that handgun pass US import rules?
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 11:47:23 AM EDT
I want one. I wonder how many car springs were sacrificed to make it.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 12:13:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2006 12:15:08 PM EDT by WinstonSmith]

Originally Posted By tripledouble:
i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/tglance/gun3.jpg
I've seen better engraving by Browning.



I kinda like the engraving.. Wouldn't trust the gun to hold together for a doubletap, but I'd have a Makarov or something done up like that for shits and giggles.

ETA- ok.. The detail work. The cocking serrations in the first pic up top look like they were filed out by kindergarteners..
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 12:17:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2006 12:18:10 PM EDT by NorthernBornRebel]

Originally Posted By KBaker:

Originally Posted By efpeter:

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I didn't know Beretta had a silent p.




First initial, IIRC. Piedro Beretta? Something like that. Not that I think he had anything to do with manufacturing that shotgun.....

Pietro, I think.



Yes, Pietro is correct IIR
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