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Posted: 4/11/2002 9:27:37 AM EDT
And a dog...
Slaying of 2 hikers 'solved' Inmate indicted in hate crimes Los Angeles Times April 11, 2002 WASHINGTON - With the filing of federal capital murder charges, law enforcement authorities said Wednesday that they had solved one of the United States' most egregious hate crimes against gays: the 1996 slaying of two young women in Virginia's Shenandoah National Park. The deaths of Julianne Marie Williams, 24, and Laura S. Winans, 26, attracted national attention because the two women were gay and their bodies were found just off the Appalachian Trail, one of the most popular hiking destinations. Darrell David Rice, a Virginia prison inmate already serving time for an unrelated assault and attempted abduction of a female bicyclist in the same park, was indicted in their deaths by a federal grand jury. Prosecutors said Rice, 34, had targeted the two hikers because he believed they were gay. Their bodies were found June 1, 1996, beside their tent in a secluded campsite about a half-mile off the trail. Their throats were slashed and their hands bound. Rice told fellow prisoners months ago that he "hates gays" and intentionally selected women to attack "because they are more vulnerable than men," authorities said. Since then, authorities said they have built a case against Rice by collecting physical and other evidence. Prosecutors also quoted Rice as saying Williams and Winans "deserved to die because they were lesbian." If convicted, he could receive the death penalty. "It has been a long and tedious investigation," said Lawrence Berry, a spokesman for the Richmond, Va., FBI field office, which investigated the murders with the National Park Service. "We're certainly pleased it has resulted in an indictment." The case was heard by a federal grand jury because the murders took place in a national park. The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, which had urged a full investigation of the slayings in 1996, expressed relief at "closure" of the case but said it was "a sad reminder" of the pervasiveness of violence against gays. The women, both experienced hikers, had worked as interns for Woodswomen Inc., a Minneapolis-based group providing outdoor adventure and education programs for women. Attorney General John Ashcroft, who announced Rice's indictment, said the women's murders denied the world their budding talents, "which would have been substantial." "These families have suffered what Americans now know all too well: the pain and destruction wrought by hate," Ashcroft told a news conference. "The volatile, poisonous mixture of hatred and violence will not go unchallenged in the American system of justice," he said after meeting with relatives of the victims. Rice, an inmate in the federal prison in Petersburg, Va., was charged in a four-count indictment with capital murder and with "intentionally selecting and murdering the two young women because of his hatred of women and homosexuals."
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Link Posted: 4/11/2002 9:49:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 9:52:20 AM EDT
There are Monsters in the woods!
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 9:54:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2002 10:09:55 AM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
I think the answer there is to stop visiting national parks till the allow guns. This was for the educational benefit of the rest of us, the two young women in question were too much of the tree-hugging kind to buy a gun. This guys MO points out one thing- gun bans only create protection free zones for predators to roam, they don't protect anyone. One thing I wish gun rights lawyers would try to do in a case like this, where people are killed in a area of a local gun ban, is to sue the government for failure to protect. Now normally you cannot sue the government for them failing to protect a individual. However, there is a escape clause. If a special situation existed where the deceased was PROMISED protection, or led to believe that he would be individually protected, then you can sue the police agency involved. What I would like to see is somone sue on the grounds that special area gun bans, like for national parks, and for schools, hospitals, churches, ect. DO create such a special situation where the government agency that imposed the ban now IS responsible for the safety of everyone within that area, and can be held liable. The same thing with private companies that take it upon themselves to ban firearms from their property. They are then liable for assaults and homocides that take place on their posted property. As far as I can tell, no one has ever tried to approach this issue from this angle.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 9:59:09 AM EDT
Sound advice, never know when you might encounter a two legged predator.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 10:02:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: This guys MO points out one thing- gun bans only create protection free zones for predators to roam, they don't protect anyone.
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There was one Cary Stayner who killed three ( 3 ) tourists and one ( 1 ) naturalist in Yosemite National Forest a few years ago. He was a maniac lodge worker!
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 11:03:47 AM EDT
Anybody think it would be a good idea to mobilize and petition our friends in the government to at least allow concealed carry in National Parks? I do not think there is a law prohibiting weapons, just an administrative rule - which could be changed by GWB without congressional action.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 12:04:40 PM EDT
Why bring a gun in the woods? Because the ONE TIME dad took the dog for a walk without bringing a gun is the time he encountered the mountain lion. Which scared the crap out of the dog, too.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 12:27:28 PM EDT
There can be BAD CRITTERS in the woods: 2 legged and 4 legged. BEWARE these: DEVIL CULTS Anybody happens upon 1 of these, make like a hockey stick and GET THE PUCK OUT OF THERE FAST. These are the ones that do: ANIMAL and HUMAN SACRIFICE The area will probably be BOOBYTRAPPED and usually they'll have SNIPERS In THE TREES and other ARMED OUTPOSTS in the area.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:36:08 PM EDT
[b]Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: I think the answer there is to stop visiting national parks till the allow guns.[/b] Absolutely!
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:47:47 PM EDT
To hell with concealed,carry it in a belt holster. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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