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9/19/2017 7:27:10 PM
Posted: 1/24/2006 7:02:18 PM EDT
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:03:12 PM EDT
Because I kind of like the idea of the United States without a radioactive zone in it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:03:14 PM EDT
Muslims shouldn't be able to have nukes.

Is that against the COC?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:03:50 PM EDT
Israel is less likely to give them or sell them to our enemies.

Edicut
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:04:11 PM EDT
For the same reason you should'nt have a machine gun.

Because it makes the US govt feel weaker.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:04:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:05:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 7:10:51 PM EDT by Johnny_Reno]
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Alex: Johnny_Reno?

Johnny: What are batshit crazy Mullahs?






Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:05:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:05:53 PM EDT
Israel has a conscience and is responsible....Iran doesn't and isn't.

HH
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:06:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Muslims shouldn't be able to have nukes.

Is that against the COC?



Bullshit! I think we should send them a few dozen.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:06:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.



Because they intend to use them... They have made their intentions clear just listen.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:06:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.

Are you serious?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:07:16 PM EDT

Because they are a government run by fanatical religious extremists.

The proliferation of nuclear weapons is never a good thing, but when they are in the hands of reasonably rational people - even those we disagree with - solutions, compromise and stability are still possible (after all, the Soviets and the U.S. stared each other down for decades without using them). When you can not assume that the other side is rational, however, it becomes too unstable, unpredictable and dangerous.

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:07:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Israel has a conscience and is responsible....Iran doesn't and isn't.

HH



That makes sense but you see the countries that already have nukes run around and scream for sanctions on the countries that want them.

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:07:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By CRC:
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.

Are you serious?



Let's hope not.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:07:52 PM EDT
If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:08:16 PM EDT
Iran is the single largest exporter of Int'l terrorism, Israel is not.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:08:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Muslims shouldn't be able to have nukes.

Is that against the COC?


Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:08:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 7:09:36 PM EDT by MagKnightX]
I personally believe that we should support the building of nuclear power plants in Iran...

...ones that absolutely cannot be used to breed weapons-grade material...

...and on the condition that, with random and full inspections of all areas at any time we decide to, they stop their own nuclear programs...

...the violation of which is considered an act of war and of nuclear terrorism, and will be treated harshly and accordingly.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:08:58 PM EDT
You guys must be joking, right?

Allowing a country that is determined to eradicate Israel to have nuclear weapons guarantees they would detonate one there. It would significantly change the balance of power in the region. Allowing religious fanatics to have the bomb could touch off world war III.

Do you like driving to work so you can feed your family?

Do you like having food in the market when you need it?

Do you like the relatively orderly way our society functions?

Well, kiss all that and more good-bye if these nutbags get nukes.

Be afraid; be very afraid. There is virtually no more important foreign policy issue at hand today.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:09:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Edicut:
Israel is less likely to give them or sell them to our enemies.

Edicut



or to use them irrationally
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:10:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Because they are a government run by fanatical religious extremists.

The proliferation of nuclear weapons is never a good thing, but when they are in the hands of reasonably rational people - even those we disagree with - solutions, compromise and stability are still possible (after all, the Soviets and the U.S. stared each other down for decades without using them). When you can not assume that the other side is rational, however, it becomes too unstable, unpredictable and dangerous.




All great reasons that the peasants shouldn't have machine guns!

They are too easily swayed by religious extremism! They arent rational or they would vote for Kerry and Gore! They are all right-wing wackos that want to overthrow the government! We can't let "those kind" of people buy machine guns.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:10:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:
If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer.

If you have to ask, you probably need help dressing yourself.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:12:00 PM EDT
So these Israeli threats to nuking Iran are not irrational?

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:12:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
So these Israeli threats to nuking Iran are not irrational?




Nope. Rational response to a grave threat.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:14:27 PM EDT
MAD (mutually assured destruction) worked with the russians.....it wouldn't work with iran.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:15:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:

Originally Posted By CRC:
So these Israeli threats to nuking Iran are not irrational?




Nope. Rational response to a grave threat.



Makes sense since Iran has called for Israels destruction.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:15:36 PM EDT
I think Iran should get their nukes from Israel...after they've been airbursted at 5000 feet
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:16:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:17:37 PM EDT
It WAS a serious question.

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:18:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By crazyquik:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Because they are a government run by fanatical religious extremists.

The proliferation of nuclear weapons is never a good thing, but when they are in the hands of reasonably rational people - even those we disagree with - solutions, compromise and stability are still possible (after all, the Soviets and the U.S. stared each other down for decades without using them). When you can not assume that the other side is rational, however, it becomes too unstable, unpredictable and dangerous.




All great reasons that the peasants shouldn't have machine guns!

They are too easily swayed by religious extremism! They arent rational or they would vote for Kerry and Gore! They are all right-wing wackos that want to overthrow the government! We can't let "those kind" of people buy machine guns.



As long as an individual has not DEMONSTRATED themselves to be a threat to others, of course they should be allowed to own machineguns, regardless of whatever goofy religious views they might have (and I define "goofy religious views" as any that are not the same as mine, btw ).


You might WANT everyone to own machineguns in principle, but do you really want that next-door neighbor to have it. You know, the wild-eyed neighbor who keeps threatening you every day that he is going to kill you, and that his goal in life is to exterminate you and your entire family.

Of course not.

If you are going to make an analogy, make it the correct one.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:18:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:19:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.



Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:19:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
It WAS a serious question.


Then you aren't to be taken seriously
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:23:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
So these Israeli threats to nuking Iran are not irrational?




It seems you have trouble distinguishing between a radical regime of mullahs and clerics and their associated spectacular failings as a model international citizen, and a civilized democracy beset upon by mortal enemies that have expressed a willingness to exchange nuclear weapons and deal with the costs since israel has no land mass buffer to give.

Perhaps if you were able to more clearly see the differences in conduct, expectations, and accountability of these states, you wouldn't have such difficulty making informed judgments about the dangers of WMD's in the hands of the radical islamic country.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:25:15 PM EDT
Iran delenda est.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:25:31 PM EDT
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For the same reason we don't let children possess firearms without adult supervision.

When Iran gets out of the middle ages from a societal perspective we can introduce them to things like religous freedom, womens rights, and toilet paper.

You gotta crawl before you can walk.

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:29:49 PM EDT
Do you just spend your entire day thinking of inane subjects to start threads about?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:33:00 PM EDT
i think iran should have nukes. in fact i think we should sell them medium sized nukes if they want em. too big to put in a suitcase, to small to take out whole cities (thermo nukes). then if they use them we just whipe them off the face of the earth.

they're gonna get nukes. i dont see how bush and family can stop them. already blown the wad in iraq. iran has not threatened use of nukes (or anything else). has not invaded another country (like iraq did). so its kinda hard to make a case for iran like iraq.

course i would like to see them get their butts kicked but it aint gonna happen. we keep on with the rhetoric its only gonna make us look silly.

iran gonna turn off the gas (embargo on). they aint gonna send master blaster to the pig farm to turn the valves back on. china gonna whine. so is russia.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:27:57 PM EDT
It's a bad idea for Iran to have nukes the same way it's a bad idea to let the crazy neighbor down the street who's been threatening to kill everyone have a machine-gun.

Iran's leadership has repeatedly stated that it is their goal to spread Islam to the rest of the world and that the mechanism for the spread of Islam is Jihad. And by Jihad, the Iranians mean Holy War, not the "peaceful struggle" that some people claim it means.

During the Iran-Iraq war, the Mullahs sent boys as young as 10 years old in as "Russian mine clearers" (also known as "martyrs"). Do you think they would really have any compunction, moral or otherwise, about incinerating a few hundred thousand infidels if they thought they would benefit?

If they detonate a nuke in the CONUS with the mistaken belief that Allah will protect them from our reprisals, the fact that they are wrong won't bring back the Americans that will die from it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:32:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/24/2006 9:38:20 PM EDT by Burkey]
If Iran had a stable democratic Govt. then they should be able to get nukes. Only then should that be allowed to happen.


Edit- Even then it would be much, much better if they didn't.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:45:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
After all Israel has them and they hate each other.




Well, if you have any PROOF Israel has nukes, please bring it forward.

BTW, proof does not equal innuendo, leaps of faith or unverified documents.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:48:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Do you just spend your entire day thinking of inane subjects to start threads about?



somebody had to fill the void left by the banning of clean_cut
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 10:13:58 PM EDT
Some good responses in this thread..........

Originally Posted By Pangea:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Muslims shouldn't be able to have nukes.

Is that against the COC?


Bullshit! I think we should send them a few dozen.


+


Originally Posted By Echo_Hotel:
Iran delenda est.


Amen!
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