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Posted: 6/19/2011 9:23:34 AM EDT
An Armalite AR10B



Or a FAL



I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:25:16 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
 I wish they made a mini-AR10.


you mean like a oh what's that damn thing called... an ar15?
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:26:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
An Armalite AR10B

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg

Or a FAL

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


A mini-AR-10?  Like maybe an AR-15?

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Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:26:30 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
An Armalite AR10B

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg

Or a FAL

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


you mean like a oh what's that damn thing called... an ar15?




Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:27:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Because M14 clones are friggin cool, that is why.  They are also not less accurate or reliable as a FAL.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:29:03 AM EDT
[#5]
It's an M14 thing.  You wouldn't understand.  
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:29:56 AM EDT
[#6]
Because they are just fuckin' cool in their own right?


I'm nothin but a guy that needed a short little .308 to shoot things in the face.  Namely legal to shoot things, like coyotes, lame cows and the occasional deer tag that needs filled.  So I don't really care to split hairs about accuracy, reliability or functionality... I wanted something fuckin' cool.


I found the Socom 16.


It shoots things in the face really well.

(Not my rifle, just posting a random picture like the OP)
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:30:41 AM EDT
[#7]
Post this in the fal forum, the m1a forum, and the ar10 forum.

Then be more indecisive.

I owned and shot all before I had a favorite picked out. Try this?

You can always bud a short LW ar-10. Check the pis thread, theres a guy with a 16 in with MOE shit on it.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:30:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Cause they is purdy.........
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:30:56 AM EDT
[#9]
AR-10s are overpriced for what you get.  $1300 for an AR with a fixed stock, GI style handguards?  Don't think so, bucko.  I'd like to build one eventually though.

You don't see many FALs around here, let alone parts for them.  

Plus, M1As are just hawt
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:31:57 AM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:32:40 AM EDT
[#11]
In my commie state an ar10 would need a bullet button and lose some of it's "evil" features. While my m1a is stock and perfectly legal.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:33:17 AM EDT
[#12]
M1A's are as accurate or inaccurate as you pay for and work at. Plenty of AR10's cost significantly more than $1500, the pricing is fairly competitive across the 308 semi autos. The M1A has, in most forms, a classic appearance that appeals to many folks who like wood and steel. There are advantages to the AR10 platform, but also disadvantages. Same with FAL's

Personally, I'd rather have an M1A for when I'm feeling traditional and an AR10 style for easier accessorizing.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:34:45 AM EDT
[#13]




Quoted:

It's an M14 thing. You wouldn't understand.




This



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Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:35:55 AM EDT
[#14]
Because wood and steel are cool.  

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:36:14 AM EDT
[#15]
That's a damn nice FAL! I have an M1A, a Fulton Armory Titan, a G3 clone , and have owned an FAL, and I find that my M1A seems to end up at the end of my favorites list most of the time.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:38:09 AM EDT
[#16]
Because we dont need scopes to hit at 600 yards, plus it's a better club if you get overrun by Charlie.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 9:38:24 AM EDT
[#17]


Admittedly, I'd like to yank the bipod and VFG off that FAL and go do naughty, naughty things with it

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:03:10 AM EDT
[#18]


your dog looks emaciated
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:04:02 AM EDT
[#19]


You have a cool dog.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:06:41 AM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:06:45 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
 I wish they made a mini-AR10.


you mean like a oh what's that damn thing called... an ar15?


Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:07:27 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:09:11 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
An Armalite AR10B

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg

Or a FAL

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


That FAL is pure sex
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:11:55 AM EDT
[#24]
If I was in static defense of an object or area (like a house or building or a large piece of property with open spaces), I'd rather have an M1A in my hands than an FAL.

YMMV.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:11:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
An Armalite AR10B

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg

Or a FAL

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


What?  What are you basing that on?
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:12:26 AM EDT
[#26]


Never knew they cross bred Goldens with bears.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:14:51 AM EDT
[#27]



Quoted:


Why not own all of them?





Correct



 
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:20:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
 I wish they made a mini-AR10.


you mean like a oh what's that damn thing called... an ar15?


LOLZ

That pegged out the 'NO SHIT' meter.

OP, before you derailed your own post with the last sentence, you were on to something.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:27:58 AM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:



Quoted:

An Armalite AR10B



http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg



Or a FAL



http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg



I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.



The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.




What?  What are you basing that on?


he obviously is speaking out his ass:  http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-FAL-Standard-Rifle-308-Cal––––SA58STD/productinfo/SA58STD/



 
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:29:51 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


chairforce26, serious question, were you born after 1969?

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:32:00 AM EDT
[#31]

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:38:32 AM EDT
[#32]
m1a's look the best.. and are well balanced
AR10's shoot the best
FALs are well proven... but way to front heavy
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:39:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.



What dialect of the English language were you speaking in that last sentence there, professor?

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:39:42 AM EDT
[#34]


It's hard to own just one.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:40:56 AM EDT
[#35]
I have been at the same indecision myself for a while. I want a semi 7.62. I have always loved the M14/M1A, im also a big FMJ movie fan. I also have been drooling over the FAL congo or any nice FAL for that matter for a few years.  

The AR style/platforms just don't hold a big appeal for me.  Im sure they are nice but IMO it's just a big ar15.  I own 2 ar's already and i want something different.  

The FAL's seem to be a mix bag of cheap crap and over priced and nice, but still some questionable quality issues, and home brewed god knows what will happen if you shoot it.  I would love an original preban, but if im going to spend +/- $2500 i would go with a SCAR 17.

The M1A's are very nice and with the traditional look of days gone by. I will own one again ( had a polytech many years ago and did not love it), but it will be more for having a older rifle and will be more of a collector piece then a shooter or SHTF rifle.  Yes the SOCOM model's can work for that, but those models lose the looks of the original rifle, and IMO looks like a bastard child, or someone super glued a taticool AR front to the back of a M14. I feel if i bought one i will need to buy something else to be the .308 shooter.


If im going to spend $1500 and more for a nice .308 rifle i don't want to question any part of it's reliability, i want something that will go bang every time i pull the trigger without tuning it in, or have to go through a lengthy and detailed break in.    


So one of these days i will have to see what i can rent or try out at the range, and make a decision and pull the trigger.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:41:26 AM EDT
[#36]
Mine is so sexy I am considering a fleshlight attachment.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:43:12 AM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
An Armalite AR10B

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkeuzL_5N6FAAf2KjzbkF/SIG=15hdc849b/EXP=1308532787/**http%3a//2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSNFHfHfWfI/TacOSLyUrsI/AAAAAAAAFDM/uf_GKTpfEtE/s1600/ar-10a4_assault_rifle_armalite_defence_exhibition_asda_2011_split_croatia.jpg

Or a FAL

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KJkesRMP5N4ngAuDWjzbkF/SIG=12ji3iqbq/EXP=1308532881/**http%3a//farm4.static.flickr.com/3413/3228999915_8bbb20dd49_z.jpg

I want to like the M1As but they cost $1500, are less accurate and more expensive than an AR10 and less accurate, less reliable and more than a FAL.

The Mini-14s, basically mini M-14s people rip on lots, but those seem like they'd be cool if they were cheaper.  I wish they made a mini-AR10.


Don't know where you got that, but it's wrong. I can find M1A's for 1K, and it's hard to find a non-kit gun FAL much cheaper. Look at the cost of a Belgian, Argie, or even Springfield (Brazilian.)
Less reliable? I don't agree with that either. Between me and my son we have 3 Springfield M1A's, two standards and a SOCOM. All run great. As does my FAL.

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:44:24 AM EDT
[#39]
FAL more accurate than an M1A? I don't think so. Not in my experience. My Springfield "Loaded" M1A shoots better than my Austrian StG-58 FAL
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:44:30 AM EDT
[#40]
Not this shit again...
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:44:57 AM EDT
[#41]
I kind of agree with the OP.  

I have a Polytech and I shoot it so seldom these days that I probably need to trade it for something else.

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:48:00 AM EDT
[#42]


If you have to ask than you're lacking in either taste or experience in my book.



Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:49:16 AM EDT
[#43]


Rule of Twos compliant, nice.  

Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:51:14 AM EDT
[#44]
In terms of accuracy, fewer parts on the the AR's gas impingement system is superior in terms of accuracy over the M-14's gas piston system.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 10:51:20 AM EDT
[#45]
I liked my norinco m1a, probably the easiest semi auto I've had to shoot good groups at 100 yards.



I traded it in part for an AR a couple years ago, and kinda regret it.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 11:01:01 AM EDT
[#46]
Because the M1A is the best of the breed!
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 11:15:34 AM EDT
[#47]
Ill take my Clint Fowler built M1A over your factory AR-10 any day.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 11:16:39 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
AR-10s are overpriced for what you get.  $1300 for an AR with a fixed stock, GI style handguards?  Don't think so, bucko.  I'd like to build one eventually though.

You don't see many FALs around here, let alone parts for them.  

Plus, M1As are just hawt
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/ragin_cajun_photos/IMGP1234.jpg


I agree 100 percent with this statement.   I'd love to have an AR-type rifle in .308 but I think I will wait and see how the Del-Ton project turns out and what the pricing is on it.   Supposedly, they are building one that will be available by the end of the summer.

IMHO ALL ArmaLite rifles are overpriced for what you get.   I am watching ArmaLite to see if they ever come out with a new AR-180B with a metal lower receiver.   I will buy one of those if they are priced between $700-900 dollars but that will be my limit.   Knowing Armalite, they will probably price those at $1,000 if and when they ever get them redesigned and produced though.

Sorry to piss off ArmaLite lovers here, but I am not a big fan of paying an extra $200-300 dollars for a rifle just because of the name on it.  If I end up with a Del-Ton .308 AR-type rifle, it won't hurt my feelings a bit just because it doesn't say ArmaLite on the side of it.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 12:35:15 PM EDT
[#49]
I had a springfield M1A, and a fal clone at the same time. I prefered the fal over the M1A, but didnt really like it either. If I were to get another semiauto .308 I would look at an AR based rifle of some make.
Link Posted: 6/19/2011 12:39:19 PM EDT
[#50]
Variety is the spice of life.
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