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Posted: 9/16/2005 11:48:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 11:49:39 AM EDT by mjohn3006]
If you would have told me two years ago that I would get hooked, then subsequently watch all 7 seasons of Buffy The Vampire Slayer I would have told you yoru were nuts. But here I am. Last three discs of season 7 sitting on my TV in their Netflix wrappers waiting for me to watch this weekend.

Who else is hooked?

My only complaint has been that it needs more guns and less clothing.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 11:52:32 AM EDT
The only good part about that show is Eliza Dushku
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 11:55:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 11:56:32 AM EDT by 37Victor]
Because of Joss Whedon. If you like Buffy (I only tolerate it, myself) try Firefly or the movie Serenity when it comes out in two weeks. Firefly is right up a gun lover's alley, you'll have a new favorite show for sure.

edit for spelling
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 11:56:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 37Victor:
Because of Joss Whedon. If you like Buffy (I only tolerate it, myself) try Firefly or the movie Serenity when it comes out in two weeks. Firefly is right up a gun lover's alley, you'll have a new favorite shot for sure.



ITS THE SAME DUDE???

I loved Firefly and was so pissed when they cancled it. And am going to see Serenity for sure.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 11:58:05 AM EDT
It isn't .
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:02:14 PM EDT
Hot chicks, kung-fu, witty dialog? Great show. Angel is good too. I didn't get a chance to get into Firefly, but I will see the movie when it comes out. Joss is great at weaving a story and he and his writers were excellent with the dialog.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:03:33 PM EDT
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?

I asked myself the same thing a few years ago, try to describe the show to someone who's never seen it and you sound like an idiot.

Buffy? You like a show about a teenage girl who runs around killing vampires.....who all seem to know martial arts??

I finally figured out it was Joss Whedon, no one else could have made Buffy The Vampire Slayer successfully.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:08:46 PM EDT
Because Buffy is so darned hot. Or should I say such a delight to look at.

Sara Michelle Geller is just so fine. So is Jennifer Love Hewett. They remind me of each other.

Very lady-like but with that certain, I don't know how to put it, good-girl beauty. Small, trim and very sanitary sweet, and...agghhhh...come here Buffy, sit on my lap while I feel you up.

Oops, lost my train of thought there, the imagination runs wild.

And did I mention exquisite?? I should have.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:12:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:15:51 PM EDT
I never watched the show. The movie was great, though. Especially Paul Reubens's death scene.

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:17:13 PM EDT
It's all Joss Whedon. His writing was great, and the characters were excellent. The casting was great too.

My wife dragged me into watching Buffy kicking and screaming. After watching a few episodes I wondered why I didn't catch on sooner. Great show.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:18:06 PM EDT


Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



Maybe... you're gay?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:18:54 PM EDT
Dude are you kidding? Buffy went on the air in 1997 and has been off the air for like 4 years now. Where you been?
Also check out Angel the Buffy spinoff and also watch Buffy the vampire slayer the movie!! I like Sarah Gellar but KRISTY SWANSON WAS DA BOMB! She was always the best in my book. I guess she was too old to play Buffy once the show hit the air But i do have her Playboy issue.
Joss Whedon is the best Sci-fi writer out there now. He also did Alien ressurection. He actually approached the Star trek franchise to help rescue them from their crap ratings with a new show. But of course they were too stupid and arrogant to take him up on it so the project is dead. So now they lost Enterprise and probably will not make another movie for years.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:25:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 12:26:14 PM EDT by KN]

Originally Posted By SNorman:


Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



Maybe... you're gay?



You would have to be gay to not like it. There is very hot babes in that show.

The witty lines in the show are what really make it good though.

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:30:42 PM EDT
My in-laws are Buffy addicts too.

The wimmenz are hot, but I don't get the addiction. It's not like it's Oz, or Deadwood, or Soprano's.

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:31:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By t-stox:
Dude are you kidding? Buffy went on the air in 1997 and has been off the air for like 4 years now. Where you been?
Also check out Angel the Buffy spinoff and also watch Buffy the vampire slayer the movie!! I like Sarah Gellar but KRISTY SWANSON WAS DA BOMB! She was always the best in my book. I guess she was too old to play Buffy once the show hit the air But i do have her Playboy issue.
Joss Whedon is the best Sci-fi writer out there now. He also did Alien ressurection. He actually approached the Star trek franchise to help rescue them from their crap ratings with a new show. But of course they were too stupid and arrogant to take him up on it so the project is dead. So now they lost Enterprise and probably will not make another movie for years.



Yeah. I am through 3 seasons of Angel as well. The rest of Angel is in the Netflix que.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:33:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SNorman:


Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



Maybe... you're gay?



Nope. Guys do nothing for me. I am sorry to dissapoint you. But don't worry, you will find someone someday.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:33:54 PM EDT
Faith and lesbians...
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:34:08 PM EDT
My wife is a complete Buffy addict. We own all of the seasons on DVD. Our favorite episode is "Hush". Levitating mimes that collect hearts.....Damn good stuff. Oh, we just finished he Firefly DVD set. I do hope that the Serenity movie re-kindles the possibility for the series to start again.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:34:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 12:38:13 PM EDT by HardShell]
My wife & I watched it from the very beginning right up to the (somewhat disappointing) end.

I have yet to watch anything Whedon has done that I didn't enjoy more than 99% of what else is out there. He is right up there IMHO with QT as far as writing the best dialogue & character interaction - and his stuff is much more family-friendly than QT's...



Originally Posted By t-stox:
... He actually approached the Star trek franchise to help rescue them from their crap ratings with a new show. But of course they were too stupid and arrogant to take him up on it ...



The sci-fi geek deep inside me wept for the ST franchise when the turned Whedon down...


I am looking forward to Wonder Woman, though!
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:40:04 PM EDT
As long as ARFCOM is coming clean about gay TV habits.....I admitt it....I watch The O.C. I try not to miss an episode. Its just too good. I'm so ashamed.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:40:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



www.geocities.com/hottie_master/geller6.jpg



+1, but let us never forget...

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:43:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 12:50:56 PM EDT by Master_Blaster]

Originally Posted By t-stox:
...Joss Whedon is the best Sci-fi writer out there now. He also did Alien ressurection...



Oye.

"Alien Resurrection" = worst movie ever. Worst waste of a free movie ticket I ever spent. That movie absoutely ruined the franchise. Never wasted $$$ on it, but "AvP" was apparently just piss-icing no that sh!t cake. Get "Alien" & "Aliens" & call it a series. Before the "Resurrection", I viewed "Alien 3" as borderline, at best. I now consider it a virtual masterpiece by relative comparison.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:47:45 PM EDT


Principal Snyder: "There're some things I can just smell. It's like a sixth sense."
Giles: "No, actually that would be one of the five."


Another

"So, you've been seeing a guy, but you don't know what he looks like. Okay, this is a puzzle. No, wait, I'm good at these. Does it involve a midget and a block of ice?" -- Buffy


More

SPIKE: (appears behind them) *You* were *there*? Oh, please! If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.
Vampire#1: I oughta rip your throat out.
SPIKE: I was actually at Woodstock. That was a weird gig. I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:48:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?



www.geocities.com/hottie_master/geller6.jpg



+1, but let us never forget...

www.upn.com/shows/buffy/images/features/wallpaper/willow800.jpg



I always liked Willow.....for her mind, of course....

Can't say I cared for her girl friend though.

And then theres Cordelia......
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:49:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:

Originally Posted By t-stox:
...Joss Whedon is the best Sci-fi writer out there now. He also did Alien ressurection...



Oye.

"Alien Resurrection" = worst movie ever. Worst waste of a free movie ticket I ever spent. That movie absoutely ruined the franchise. Neber watd $$$ on it, but "AvP" was apparently just piss-icing no that sh!t cake. Get "Alien" & "Aliens" & call it a series. Before the "Resurrection", I viewed "Alien 3" as borderline, at best. I now consider it a virtual masterpiece by relative comparison.



You beat me to it. Alien Resurrection blew goats.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:50:34 PM EDT
I loved alot of the series, hated the stupid Littel sister beign brought in, and loved the Dopplegangerland type episodes, also the psycho evil Willow episodes
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:50:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By kill-9:

Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?


www.geocities.com/hottie_master/geller6.jpg


+1, but let us never forget...
www.upn.com/shows/buffy/images/features/wallpaper/willow800.jpg


I always liked Willow.....for her mind, of course....
Can't say I cared for her girl friend though.
And then theres Cordelia......



Her Girlfriend was fugly. I prefered the pre-lesbian Willow.

Cordelia was hot, as is (of course) Eliza Dusku.

Alas, they both left the show after a while...
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 12:51:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 1:01:35 PM EDT by mjohn3006]

Originally Posted By photokirk:

Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:

Originally Posted By t-stox:
...Joss Whedon is the best Sci-fi writer out there now. He also did Alien ressurection...



Oye.

"Alien Resurrection" = worst movie ever. Worst waste of a free movie ticket I ever spent. That movie absoutely ruined the franchise. Neber watd $$$ on it, but "AvP" was apparently just piss-icing no that sh!t cake. Get "Alien" & "Aliens" & call it a series. Before the "Resurrection", I viewed "Alien 3" as borderline, at best. I now consider it a virtual masterpiece by relative comparison.



You beat me to it. Alien Resurrection blew goats.



hum. My list of favs for the Alien series goes:
Aliens
Alien Resurrection
Alien
Alien 3



ETA I am hyjacking my own damn thread.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:08:48 PM EDT
The dialog was pretty snappy, and the premise strong--monsters are metaphors for the various problems of high school. Part of Whedon's technique is to exploit the viewer's knowledge about TV cliches; the viewer gets set up to expect one thing, then Whedon does something else.

The characters develop a pretty good history over time, too. It's not status quo ante at the end of an episode. The events carry over and affect the character for the rest of the show's run.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:15:16 PM EDT
I never thought I would like the show.Then I met my girlfriend who watched it and now I like It.
Bonus points for buffy. Shes PROGUN! She said some good things. Like "guns don't kill people people kill people" and she grew up around guns and they are not the problem.+1 for her.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:16:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 1:18:27 PM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
... Part of Whedon's technique is to exploit the viewer's knowledge about TV cliches; the viewer gets set up to expect one thing, then Whedon does something else.

The characters develop a pretty good history over time, too. It's not status quo ante at the end of an episode. The events carry over and affect the character for the rest of the show's run.



I think that's a big part of why his shows/writings draw a much more rabidly loyal audience from among folks who watch/have watched a lot of TV/movies ("couch potatoes," sci-fi geeks, etc.) than from "casual viewers." Simultaneously, his story arcs often require consistent (week to week) viewing to fully enjoy, again leaving out "casual viewers" (who might catch every other or every third episode of a show).

In other words, he expects his audience to be informed and to pay attention - unlike the writers of most of the laugh-track-saturated pablum that folks are usually fed over the airwaves these days...


ETA: I'm not saying a casual viewer can't enjoy Whedon's shows at all... just not as much IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:20:55 PM EDT


some episodes are good, others just suck

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:22:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 1:26:42 PM EDT by TheAvatar9265ft]
Very Very Very simple: very well written, very witty, and Very hot chicks
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:22:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
The dialog was pretty snappy, and the premise strong--monsters are metaphors for the various problems of high school. Part of Whedon's technique is to exploit the viewer's knowledge about TV cliches; the viewer gets set up to expect one thing, then Whedon does something else.



One of my favorite scenes was Buffy running to catch her boyfriend before he leaves in the helicopter. The cliche, of course, is that she gets there in the nick of time. But, alas, the helicopter departs and he never even sees Buffy running. I about died laughing because the joke was on the crappy writers who use that cliche over and over and over.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:37:40 PM EDT


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Originally Posted By kill-9:


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Originally Posted By NH_AR_Shooter:
Why is Buffy The Vampire Slayer such a dang good show?
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www.geocities.com/hottie_master/geller6.jpg
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+1, but let us never forget...

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She is such a hottie.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 1:42:47 PM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By kbi:
www.upn.com/shows/buffy/images/features/wallpaper/willow800.jpg
She is such a hottie.



Her new show starts next Monday... don't know if it'll be worth the time, though.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:43:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 1:46:50 PM EDT by NH_AR_Shooter]

Originally Posted By KN:

Principal Snyder: "There're some things I can just smell. It's like a sixth sense."
Giles: "No, actually that would be one of the five."


Another

"So, you've been seeing a guy, but you don't know what he looks like. Okay, this is a puzzle. No, wait, I'm good at these. Does it involve a midget and a block of ice?" -- Buffy


More

SPIKE: (appears behind them) *You* were *there*? Oh, please! If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.
Vampire#1: I oughta rip your throat out.
SPIKE: I was actually at Woodstock. That was a weird gig. I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.




In one of the final episodes Buffy visits an ancient priestess, who has been waiting for millenia, guarding a magical weapon intended for the "Final" slayer.

GUARDIAN: I?d forgotten. I?d forgotten how young you would be. Comes from the waiting. The mind plays tricks. (re: scythe) I see you?ve found our weapon.

BUFFY: Who are you?

GUARDIAN: One of many. Well time was. Now I'm alone in the world.

BUFFY: So what are you? Some kind of ghost?

GUARDIAN: No, I'm as real as you are. Just? well, let me put it this way: I look good for my age. I?ve been waiting. You pulled it out of the rock. I was one of those who put it in there.

BUFFY: What is it?

GUARDIAN: A weapon. A scythe. Forged in secrecy for one like you who... Im sorry. Whats your name?

BUFFY: Buffy.

GUARDIAN: No, really?......(incredulous look)...... We forged it in secrecy and kept it hidden from the Shadow Men.

BUFFY: Oh, so you're like? what are you?

GUARDIAN: Guardians. Women who want to help and protect you. We forged this centuries ago, halfway around the world.

BUFFY: Hence the Luxor Casino theme.

GUARDIAN: Forged to kill the last pure demon that walked upon the earth. The rest were already driven under. And then there were men here, and then there were monks. And then there was a town....and now there is you. And the scythe remained hidden.

BUFFY: I don't understand. How is it possible that we didn't know any of this?

GUARDIAN: We hid, too. We had to until now. We're the last surprise.

BUFFY: Does this mean I can win?

GUARDIAN: That is really up to you. This is a powerful weapon.

BUFFY: Yeah.

GUARDIAN: But you already have weapons. Use it wisely and perhaps you can beat back the rising dark. One way or another, it can only mean an end is truly near.

(Suddenly a pair of hands shoot out from behind the curtain and seize the Guardians head, twisting it violently and snapping her neck. )

CALEB: I'm sorry, I didn't catch that last part on account of her neck snappin and all. Did she say the end is near? or here?

CALEB....is actor Nathan Fillion...who is also Capt. Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds of Firefly fame.


I just love the humor in this show.

Link Posted: 9/16/2005 1:44:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HardShell:

Originally Posted By kbi:
www.upn.com/shows/buffy/images/features/wallpaper/willow800.jpg
She is such a hottie.



Her new show starts next Monday... don't know if it'll be worth the time, though.



What is the name of the show?
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 2:15:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2005 2:16:36 PM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
What is the name of the show?



How I Met Your Mother (new CBS comedy)

ETA: www.cbs.com/primetime/how_i_met_your_mother/
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 3:16:54 PM EDT
Whedon's done some cool comic book writing too if you're into that stuff.

His X-Men stuff is solid.

I like Whedon almost as much as I like Straczynski of Babylon 5 fame... For almost the same reasons.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 3:47:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
If you would have told me two years ago that I would get hooked, then subsequently watch all 7 seasons of Buffy The Vampire Slayer I would have told you yoru were nuts. But here I am. Last three discs of season 7 sitting on my TV in their Netflix wrappers waiting for me to watch this weekend.

Who else is hooked?

My only complaint has been that it needs more guns and less clothing.



Three reasons:

Sarah Michelle Gellar
Eliza Dushku
Charisma Carpenter

(I own all seven seasons too)
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 4:34:53 PM EDT
Best scene ever:

Awkward moment where Buffy's mom Joyce is sitting in the living room with Spike (when he was evil but cut a deal with Buffy). It's obvious they have to find something to talk about to break the uncomfortable silence. Finally, they come up with this classic exchange:

JOYCE (turns to look at Spike from across the room): Umm, have we met before?

SPIKE: Yes. You were chasing me with an axe, screaming "Get away from my daughter."

JOYCE: Oh.

They go back to glancing around the room awkwardly....
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:03:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
If you would have told me two years ago that I would get hooked, then subsequently watch all 7 seasons of Buffy The Vampire Slayer I would have told you yoru were nuts. But here I am. Last three discs of season 7 sitting on my TV in their Netflix wrappers waiting for me to watch this weekend.

Who else is hooked?

My only complaint has been that it needs more guns and less clothing.



I like it a lot. One of my top 10 favs.

The answer, IMO, to your intro Q is: Joss Whedon (creator +++) is a bonafide GENIUS! But as twisted as this is, I think I liked Angel better (the SHOW, not the character) Go figure.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:23:19 PM EDT
Spike was fun.

End of first season and he drives off in the Caddie(?) to the sounds of Do You Know the Way to San Jose?

When he came back and hadn't fully been accepted so is chained down when the Indians attacked and he kept getting hit by arrows . Couldn't kill him just hurt and he gets a close call to the family jewels.

Buffy just after she rescued her commando boyfriend. "Well the unit has killed 30 something and I've killed 17 vampires" "What, what do you mean you killed over 300?"

And the babes. 2/3 episodes were pretty good, never took itself too seriously

Andel was pretty good too. The first episode when he shows up just after Cordy figured out a vampire had captured her. She sees Angel "Oooh, Now you're gonna get your ass kicked."
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:30:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xinflt:
The only good part about that show is Eliza Dushku


i would say +1-she is the best.....but there are some other nice looking young ladies on the show
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:34:18 PM EDT
Wasnt there an episode where Buffy and her friends used guns inside the school? (to stop a school shooting, or something like that?) I heard something say that it ran exactly one time on network TV and was never seen again.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 5:35:28 PM EDT
I love that show.

I have in my computer room a life size cardboard cuttout of Buffy. She is watching me now.

Bobwrench
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 7:45:52 PM EDT
honestly never saw a episode of it.

But I liked the camp of original movie.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 8:06:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Wasnt there an episode where Buffy and her friends used guns inside the school? (to stop a school shooting, or something like that?) I heard something say that it ran exactly one time on network TV and was never seen again.

Kharn



There was one episode involving some sort of student slaughter at the high school, it was pulled from the schedule when the Columbine shootings happened. They did air it about a year later, if I remember correctly. As I recall there was no real parallel with Columbine at all, just network ninny's over reacting.
Link Posted: 9/16/2005 8:11:05 PM EDT
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