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Posted: 4/20/2016 6:44:33 AM EDT
Is this correct?

From here:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/30/upshot/trump-clinton-delegate-calculator.html

It is a graph that lists delegates per state.
CT: 28
DE: 16
MD: 38
PA: 17
RI: 19
IN: 57
etc.

On the Democrat side it lists 189 delegates available from Pennsylvania.

What is the deal?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:51:01 AM EDT
54 are unbound. 71 total.

The 54 sets of unbound delegate candidates run in their own name without a stated preference on the ballot, although as I understand it many indicate a preference in voter guides.

The 17 bound delegates are bound to the winner of the statewide straw poll. 3 are party committee members who attend the convention by virtue of their position, and the other 14 bound delegates are chosen by the party committee at the later PA committee's "summer meeting."

Not sure why they do it that way, but that's how they do and have done it in the past.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:56:28 AM EDT
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The D and R delegate systems are completely different and not comparable to each other. Ds have more total delegates, so more are allocated per state and more are needed to clinch their nomination.

Ds and inflation go hand in hand. They just can't help themselves.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:01:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
The D and R delegate systems are completely different and not comparable to each other. Ds have more total delegates, so more are allocated per state and more are needed to clinch their nomination.

Ds and inflation go hand in hand. They just can't help themselves.
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Democrats are also much more uniform in how they allot delegates to the candidates and in how their primary and caucus systems are run, and of course have a bunch of superdelegates, which is where a lot of the extra numbers come from.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
54 are unbound. 71 total.

The 54 sets of unbound delegate candidates run in their own name without a stated preference on the ballot, although as I understand it many indicate a preference in voter guides.

The 17 bound delegates are bound to the winner of the statewide straw poll. 3 are party committee members who attend the convention by virtue of their position, and the other 14 bound delegates are chosen by the party committee at the later PA committee's "summer meeting."

Not sure why they do it that way, but that's how they do and have done it in the past.
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That part sorta makes you wonder.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:27:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1srelluc:


That part sorta makes you wonder.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
54 are unbound. 71 total.

The 54 sets of unbound delegate candidates run in their own name without a stated preference on the ballot, although as I understand it many indicate a preference in voter guides.

The 17 bound delegates are bound to the winner of the statewide straw poll. 3 are party committee members who attend the convention by virtue of their position, and the other 14 bound delegates are chosen by the party committee at the later PA committee's "summer meeting."

Not sure why they do it that way, but that's how they do and have done it in the past.


That part sorta makes you wonder.


For all of the complaining about caucuses, you see that sort of thing the most in primary states (actually, exclusively in primary states). Delegates chosen that way that are not known Trump or Cruz loyalists will be the most suspect at a contested convention.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:31:10 AM EDT
Its because the party system is corrupt and it has been for for a long time.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:34:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hellmann9655:
Its because the party system is corrupt and it has been for for a long time.
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Has nothing to do with the party "system." If anything, the GOP is far more federal and thus much less systemized in nature. There is a ton of variety in how States choose delegates or bind them, and they can decline to bind them at all. PA's system is unusual.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:41:29 AM EDT
What's with all these college boy "rules". Here's the rules--sluts go to bars, faggots suck dick, and you pick one hand to jerk off with, that's all the rules there need be.
Cable TV FTW.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:42:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xylo:
What's with all these college boy "rules". Here's the rules--sluts go to bars, faggots suck dick, and you pick one hand to jerk off with, that's all the rules there need be.
Cable TV FTW.
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If this is a serious post, I think I can guess who you voted for.
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Originally Posted By hellmann9655:
Its because the party system is corrupt and it has been for for a long time.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:


Has nothing to do with the party "system." If anything, the GOP is far more federal and thus much less systemized in nature. There is a ton of variety in how States choose delegates or bind them, and they can decline to bind them at all. PA's system is unusual.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
Originally Posted By hellmann9655:
Its because the party system is corrupt and it has been for for a long time.


Has nothing to do with the party "system." If anything, the GOP is far more federal and thus much less systemized in nature. There is a ton of variety in how States choose delegates or bind them, and they can decline to bind them at all. PA's system is unusual.


It has everything to do with party apparatchiks deciding who gets the vote without a real vote.
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Originally Posted By hellmann9655:


It has everything to do with party apparatchiks deciding who gets the vote without a real vote.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
Originally Posted By hellmann9655:
Its because the party system is corrupt and it has been for for a long time.


Has nothing to do with the party "system." If anything, the GOP is far more federal and thus much less systemized in nature. There is a ton of variety in how States choose delegates or bind them, and they can decline to bind them at all. PA's system is unusual.


It has everything to do with party apparatchiks deciding who gets the vote without a real vote.


As far as binding goes, that doesn't happen in any State. Such a notion is entirely fantastic.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:04:23 AM EDT
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That's actually a photo of the 54 Pennsylvania delegates that are going to go to Cruz.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:11:04 AM EDT
Because President Cruz thanks PA for the delegates as Donald "Biff Tannen" Trump cries again about how unfairly he is treated.
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
54 are unbound. 71 total.

The 54 sets of unbound delegate candidates run in their own name without a stated preference on the ballot, although as I understand it many indicate a preference in voter guides.

The 17 bound delegates are bound to the winner of the statewide straw poll. 3 are party committee members who attend the convention by virtue of their position, and the other 14 bound delegates are chosen by the party committee at the later PA committee's "summer meeting."

Not sure why they do it that way, but that's how they do and have done it in the past.
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The GOPe owns them.

the GOPe is not supporting CRUZ, we are getting Kaish in the Open Convention.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:50:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigstick61:
54 are unbound. 71 total.

The 54 sets of unbound delegate candidates run in their own name without a stated preference on the ballot, although as I understand it many indicate a preference in voter guides.

The 17 bound delegates are bound to the winner of the statewide straw poll. 3 are party committee members who attend the convention by virtue of their position, and the other 14 bound delegates are chosen by the party committee at the later PA committee's "summer meeting."

Not sure why they do it that way, but that's how they do and have done it in the past.
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Thank you for explaining this. There is such a wide variety between the states (and parties).

I feel like I am watching a cricket match. I have no idea what the rules of cricket are!
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