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Posted: 12/7/2005 7:58:15 AM EDT
You know how Democrats are always saying that Log Cabin Republicans are self loathing people who are working against the goals of their own community? That's how I view people (especially rabid second amendment supporters like ourselves) who buy Colts.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain that Colt hates the second amendment and has almost no intrest in the civilian market (certainly no intrest in the civilan AR market), but so many of you still seek them out and plunk down ridiculous sums of money for their products. What is it about Colt that makes so many of you so willing to support a company that would rather not do business with you? Especially when there are so many other manufacturers that cater to the civilian market. I just don't get it.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 7:59:15 AM EDT
they're just like HK fags without the saurkraut and sheizer videos
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:01:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:01:24 AM EDT by Combat_Jack]
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.

1) Colt makes the best AR.

2) As long as you don't challenge us on number 1, we don't care what you use. Just don't ask us why the bolt broke on you 6.5 inch DPMS pistol upper.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:03:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:06:35 AM EDT by Spade]
If Colt makes the best AR:

1)Why does the US Military mostly use FN's?
2)Why does Blackwater use Bushmasters?

Also

Who makes the 1911's for the USMC SpecOps guys?
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:04:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.



I bring it up because I want to see the second amendment survive, and I don't understand why other people who claim to support the second amendment also support a company that has no respect for the second amendment.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:05:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
If Colt makes the best AR:

1)Why does the US Military mostly use FN's?



for M16/M4s? they dont, they are still mostly Colts. FN is making them now however.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:06:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:07:29 AM EDT by UH_SALT_RIFLE]
IBTL

edited to say I LOVE MY BUSHMASTER!
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:07:32 AM EDT


This thread is aready a goat screw.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:07:58 AM EDT

There's no doubt that Colt makes a high-quality AR, and no question that they have outstanding quality.


My only beef with them is that they are significantly overpriced. The cost of the MP testing is at most $10-20, yet Colts often command a $300 premium over equally well-built products.

I don't dislike the product at all, I love it - I just dislike their pricing.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:08:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
they're just like HK fags without the saurkraut and sheizer videos



Actually, HK is a completely different situation. HK is hamstrung by the 1989 Import Ban. HK went out of it's way to produce products for the civilian market (SL8-1 and USC), but these products were rejected by consumers. Colt CHOSE to alienate the civilian market.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:08:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
If Colt makes the best AR:

1)Why does the US Military mostly use FN's?
2)Why does Blackwater use Bushmasters?

Also

Who makes the 1911's for the USMC SpecOps guys?



1) Because the M16A4's are sold at a huge LOSS to FN. How is that for cheap.

2) Because they are cheap and Bushmaster has no militry contrcts to get in the way of avilability.

3) In house armorers.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:08:24 AM EDT
I don't know why, but I love my rampant Colt on my SP1. I haven't bought a new Colt AR, partially because they won't sell me one.

I am still thinking about buying an used Colt 1911.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:09:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.



I bring it up because I want to see the second amendment survive, and I don't understand why other people who claim to support the second amendment also support a company that has no respect for the second amendment.



It's about getting the best tool. I'd dance a jig for the devil for a Registered Reciever.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:10:00 AM EDT
Colt=Cult
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:10:31 AM EDT
Because Peyton Manning has a hot ass.



Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:12:15 AM EDT
I love my Colts.
They're great
All the rest is crap.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:12:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There's no doubt that Colt makes a high-quality AR, and no question that they have outstanding quality.


My only beef with them is that they are significantly overpriced. The cost of the MP testing is at most $10-20, yet Colts often command a $300 premium over equally well-built products.

I don't dislike the product at all, I love it - I just dislike their pricing.



There are other factors involved. Suffice it to say that they make a lemon here and there, but you re less likely to get one from them. All the Colt's I've ever owned (3) have run right out of the box. I can't say that for all of the others.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:12:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:13:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By A-nus:
Colt=Cult



Can I get a Hallelujah? Can I hear an Amen?
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:13:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.



I bring it up because I want to see the second amendment survive, and I don't understand why other people who claim to support the second amendment also support a company that has no respect for the second amendment.



It's about getting the best tool. I'd dance a jig for the devil for a Registered Reciever.



Well, since you mentioned it; I just got the paperwork back for my Colt RR.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:17:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

3) In house armorers.




Not anymore. They started out that way.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:20:26 AM EDT
Why do YOU PEOPLE love Colts so much?


You people? Who is you people? You are obviously a racist.

Your whitness sicatates me.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:23:53 AM EDT
I dont buy COLT

simply its to expensive.
I can get parts that are very close if not on par with Colts quality for less money.

that and Colt are complet douchbags when it come to supporting our 2nd admendment rights and they try there best to keep there better gun from us.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:24:28 AM EDT
Because of their great customer service and loyalty!!
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:25:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:26:12 AM EDT by MuRDoC]
I got my colt thru a private deal and it was cheaper than anyother for me. I also like to have my firearms work with out haveing it worked on by me or a gunsmith, it's the only one Ive bought other than my glocks that not only had the sights straight but actually worked. My builds and teh builds I do for my friends all have colt bolt and carriers other lowers and uppers.



If Colt makes the best AR:

1)Why does the US Military mostly use FN's? FN makes the 20"ers because they are cheaper and good enouph but they are still tested like colts are, and the others are not
2)Why does Blackwater use Bushmasters? because they're cheaper and good enouph to them, which still isn't good enouph for me

Also

Who makes the 1911's for the USMC SpecOps guys? they do their own in house pistols useing diff people parts

Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:25:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

3) In house armorers.




Not anymore. They started out that way.



Springfield built some pistols, as they have for CAG.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:26:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
Because of their great customer service and loyalty!!





That's a good one!

Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:29:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.

1) Colt makes the best AR.

2) As long as you don't challenge us on number 1, we don't care what you use. Just don't ask us why the bolt broke on you 6.5 inch DPMS pistol upper.




Can't...stop...laughing....
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:34:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 89grand:


LOL.

+1
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:35:55 AM EDT
Because they are 12 and 0.

Bilster
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:40:31 AM EDT
You get what you pay for. Do it right the first time or you get to pay for it twice.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:40:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:42:50 AM EDT by _DR]

Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:42:16 AM EDT
Go Bears!

Oh, I thought this was a football thread.

Go drink your kool-aid.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:42:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.

1) Colt makes the best AR.

2) As long as you don't challenge us on number 1, we don't care what you use. Just don't ask us why the bolt broke on you 6.5 inch DPMS pistol upper.




Can't...stop...laughing....



Noveke is supposedly up there too. They use MPI parts as well.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:43:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No1Here:
You get what you pay for. Do it right the first time or you get to pay for it twice.



Yea so buy a Bushmaster
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:43:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:45:42 AM EDT by _DR]

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Everything has been said before. I don't know why you and yours insist on bringing it up every 10 seconds.

1) Colt makes the best AR.

2) As long as you don't challenge us on number 1, we don't care what you use. Just don't ask us why the bolt broke on you 6.5 inch DPMS pistol upper.




Can't...stop...laughing....



Noveke is supposedly up there too. They use MPI parts as well.



I'd go to war with John Noveske's gear any day. Many of our SOCOM boys already do (though not officially or on Uncle's dime)!
Their Afghan profile M4 Barrel is a real "Taliban Slayer."
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:45:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By No1Here:
You get what you pay for. Do it right the first time or you get to pay for it twice.



Yea so buy a Bushmaster


I wouldn't take a Bushmaster if you gave it to me. I don't want to own junk.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:45:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:45:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No1Here:
I wouldn't take a Bushmaster if you gave it to me. I don't want to own junk.


Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:46:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:
If Colt makes the best AR:

1)Why does the US Military mostly use FN's?


Last time I checked each and every M4 in the US Military were marked 'Colt'.

FN provided some M16A2s and some of the M16A4s, they are hardly 'most' of the US Military's arsenal (especially if you count all the Colt GAU-5s and M16A1s in AF and Reserve/NG armories.)
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:47:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No1Here:
You get what you pay for. Do it right the first time or you get to pay for it twice.



odd, my mutt AR works great and hasnt broken, yet it is a blenderiffic mix of: bushy lower/fire control grop, white oak A3 upper, colt carry handle, DPMS b/bc/ch, bushy barrel, and a cheap assed gunshow special CAR stock.

oddly out of the thousands of rounds I've put through it(mostly wolf no less) it has been every bit as reliable as the M4 carbine I had in the Army.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:47:22 AM EDT
This is for all you Colt Bashers out there who wish that their AR could say this


Read the Rollmark and Cry like the bitches that you are


Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:47:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By No1Here:
I wouldn't take a Bushmaster if you gave it to me. I don't want to own junk.




You can buy my share of 'em
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:47:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2005 8:51:46 AM EDT by _DR]

Originally Posted By TStafford:
My biggest problem with Colts is the big pin little pin upper issue.



Has not existed for many years. The only difference now is FCG pin size.
That and quality control. And TDP compliance. And MPI/Proof load tested Bolts/barrels. And M16 carriers. And...


well it's all been said before, ad nauseum,
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:48:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:48:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There's no doubt that Colt makes a high-quality AR, and no question that they have outstanding quality.

My only beef with them is that they are significantly overpriced. The cost of the MP testing is at most $10-20, yet Colts often command a $300 premium over equally well-built products.

I don't dislike the product at all, I love it - I just dislike their pricing.


This is the essance of a free market place. Appearently over the years the trademark rampant Colt has meant quality, that is called goodwill in the business world, and of course it has meant that Colt can charge more than it's competitors for a their product and services. Personally I like them also, but I don't want to pay the premium because it isn't worth it to me. There are many who do pay the difference and it is worth it to them. When it comes time to sell them, a leader in its category will generally sell higher and faster.

Why are you folks whining, this is the essence of captitalism, if you don't like A, you buy B or C etc.
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:48:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
This is for all you Colt Bashers out there who wish that their AR could say this


Read the Rollmark and Cry like the bitches that you are


images.snapfish.com/3456%3B%3A6%3B23232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3C%3D36­3%3D437%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B57%3C%3B6%3B39ot1ls­i



Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:49:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
This is for all you Colt Bashers out there who wish that their AR could say this


Read the Rollmark and Cry like the bitches that you are


images.snapfish.com/3456%3B%3A6%3B23232%7Ffp63%3Dot%3E232%3C%3D36­3%3D437%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B57%3C%3B6%3B39ot1ls­i



your post makes no sense
Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:49:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No1Here:

Originally Posted By Max_Mike:

Originally Posted By No1Here:
You get what you pay for. Do it right the first time or you get to pay for it twice.



Yea so buy a Bushmaster


I wouldn't take a Bushmaster if you gave it to me. I don't want to own junk.



Noting funnier than a deranged cultist


Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:50:18 AM EDT
Here is another reminder that your Bushmaster's and RRA's will never see emblazend on the magwell

Link Posted: 12/7/2005 8:50:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:
I dont buy COLT

simply its to expensive.
I can get parts that are very close if not on par with Colts quality for less money.

that and Colt are complet douchbags when it come to supporting our 2nd admendment rights and they try there best to keep there better gun from us.



Bingo. What JBowles is basicaly how I feel about Colt in a nutshell. Theres no dispute about the quality of a Colt, but are they the best? IMHO I dont think so.
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