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Posted: 12/19/2016 4:04:39 AM EDT
...corectly differentiate between AR15s and M16s call ANY gun ever made that is even closely related to the AK47, an "AK47" instead of the semi auto guns actual model name? I'm not talking gun snob elitists that just hate AK pattern guns and don't know any better, I mean even AK fans. I don't own an AK47, but I do have a couple M92 PAPs, a Saiga IZ132, and an AES-10B. Anyway, yeah, why do people do that?
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:07:09 AM EDT
[#1]
I refer to them by country of origin. They vary by quality. 
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:07:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Trash can gun=Trash can gun
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:08:12 AM EDT
[#3]
Same reason people like me can't tell the difference between xm-177s, gau-5's and all of whatever they are called.

It's how into it you are.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:10:20 AM EDT
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And to go even further, everything everyone calls an AK-47 is actually an AKM.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:17:39 AM EDT
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A lot of AR-15 pattern rifles aren't actually called 'AR-15' by their manufacturer. Bushmaster = XM-15, PSA = PA-15, Spike's tactical = ST-15, etc
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:19:20 AM EDT
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SPNI for a change
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:22:39 AM EDT
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I don't give 2 shits about commie guns.  Ak47s shoot 7.62x39. Ak74s shoot 5.45.

Don't like or want either.

Txl
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:51:34 AM EDT
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I just call them AR's and AK's.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:54:38 AM EDT
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Just to annoy those that care....


Link Posted: 12/19/2016 4:59:16 AM EDT
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Because saying "AKM" sounds stupid, and people often don't understand what I mean.

I do say "AK type" sometimes, though.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 5:05:00 AM EDT
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You got your AR's and your AK's. Sure you can always get more exact, but it's often easier to generalize. Some people use different terms to generalize. Might call it an M4 or M16 or AR-15 or whatever. Might call it a AK or Kalashnikov or Krinkov or whatever.

People often use slang terms in conversations, and it doesn't mean they don't know the correct terms. I hate it when people try to get all high and mighty and try to correct others. It's like relax people geez... 

I blame the internet, never had all these snobs before really. Might have had one snob who read tons of books, but that was much rarer. Today anyone that can Google something on their phone thinks they are a genius...  Kind of like the grammar Nazi's. Before you had to be a spelling bee champion to be correcting everyone. Now you got auto correct on your phone and they are like I'm better than everyone!! It's like no retard you're an idiot trying to feel good about yourself. Then the PC guy comes in and tells me I can't call someone a retard, they are mentally challenged... Ugh... Today's society... 
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 5:08:53 AM EDT
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...corectly differentiate between AR15s and M16s call ANY gun ever made that is even closely related to the AK47, an "AK47" instead of the semi auto guns actual model name? I'm not talking gun snob elitists that just hate AK pattern guns and don't know any better, I mean even AK fans. I don't own an AK47, but I do have a couple M92 PAPs, a Saiga IZ132, and an AES-10B. Anyway, yeah, why do people do that?
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Because AKM is a less sexy
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 5:19:02 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 5:43:49 AM EDT
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Because there are many types of shit but no one cares enough to learn about it unless it's your fetish.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 5:51:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 6:45:01 AM EDT
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Ditto
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 8:19:50 AM EDT
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...'cuz this is AR15.COM and not INTHETRASHCAN.COM?  In that every minute detail of Stoners beloved design is known to all of us, and fot the most part most of us refrain from dumpster diving for boomsticks?????????

Or "we dont care"
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 8:39:21 AM EDT
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...'cuz this is AR15.COM and not INTHETRASHCAN.COM?  In that every minute detail of Stoners beloved design is known to all of us, and fot the most part most of us refrain from dumpster diving for boomsticks?????????

Or "we dont care"
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I have some bad news for you.

http://www.ak47.net/forums/t_1_5/1945848_.html&page=1
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:12:49 AM EDT
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I don't really know shit about AK's, besides how to use one, so I refer to them all as "ak platform".

I also refer to our beloved black rifle (in generic terms) as a m16, m4, or ar15, interchangeably, unless pointing out specific differences like barrel length or accessories. Being in the corps, and still having both the 16 and 4, it doesn't matter much what you call it unless the topic is specific to one of the rifles.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:25:38 AM EDT
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I just say stamped or milled AK for the 7.62X39s.

If it's a AK-74 type I just say AK-74.

VEPR/Saiga are described by name no matter the configuration.

If any of the above descriptions need a further fleshing-out during a discussion I can do that too.



Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:30:18 AM EDT
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OP, we have to fix the calling of magazines "clips" before we can tackle the AK name problem.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:32:49 AM EDT
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I say AK variant, but normal non gun people don't understand the difference.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:36:56 AM EDT
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They dont, it's in your head
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:37:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:42:13 AM EDT
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Same here.

I don't know the difference between all the AK variants. Not everyone can tell the difference on sight. I have a couple of AKs, but I'm not really 'into' that platform enough to know all the various models. Other guns I'm very knowledgeable about. Depends on what interests you enough to study them more. I know enough to shoot and take care of my AKs, but I'm not really interested in learning about all the other variants out there. Unless I find a different one that I'm interested in; then I'll do some research and learn about it. But so far that hasn't happened yet.



Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:53:18 AM EDT
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AR pattern gun = AR

AK pattern gun = AK

FAL pattern gun = FAL

Glock pattern gun = Glock

1911 pattern gun = 1911

How fucking annoying would it be if everyone had to call it a "Spikes ST-15" instead of a spikes AR.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:57:29 AM EDT
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Small wonder that fix is hard to make.



....or get both.

Link Posted: 12/19/2016 10:16:00 AM EDT
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This. It is just common vernacular. yes I could differentiate between all of the models but no one would have a clue what I was talking about.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 10:25:23 AM EDT
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I just call them all assault rifles. Even the short ones with Shockwave stocks.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 10:25:44 AM EDT
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Differentiating between M16s and AR15s would be silly because M16s are AR15s. Many of them even have AR15 included in their roll mark.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 11:25:43 AM EDT
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AK pattern gun = AK

FAL pattern gun = FAL

Glock pattern gun = Glock

1911 pattern gun = 1911

How fucking annoying would it be if everyone had to call it a "Spikes ST-15" instead of a spikes AR.
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My point is that no one calls the spikes AR an "M16"...
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 12:59:59 PM EDT
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I call it a AK47, a AK. don't like it? fuck off, I can call it any damn thing I please
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 6:23:09 PM EDT
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Blasphemy I tell you! !!
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 6:28:43 PM EDT
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I call my SLR106F an AK-101 and I call my Z5RS an MP5...
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:00:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:03:18 PM EDT
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Because they're all gross monkey guns built for simple conscripts.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:19:32 PM EDT
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Because when I tell some non-gun person that I have an SAR-1 they hear AR. So I call it an AK
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:31:02 PM EDT
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...corectly differentiate between AR15s and M16s call ANY gun ever made that is even closely related to the AK47, an "AK47" instead of the semi auto guns actual model name? I'm not talking gun snob elitists that just hate AK pattern guns and don't know any better, I mean even AK fans. I don't own an AK47, but I do have a couple M92 PAPs, a Saiga IZ132, and an AES-10B. Anyway, yeah, why do people do that?
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It is probably due to the perceived availability.
Since this is the country of origin for the automatic m-16, and the military here uses the m-16/m-4, the civilian semiauto ar-15 is a different gun with both guns being possible to own.
On the AK side, about the only version you are going to find in the USA is the semiauto version, so the distinction is not all that important.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:39:05 PM EDT
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Because

samuel jackson ak47 kill every motherfucker in the room
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:47:51 PM EDT
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I don't give 2 shits about commie guns.  Ak47s shoot 7.62x39. Ak74s shoot 5.45.

Don't like or want either.

Txl
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Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:56:09 PM EDT
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And you're an idiot.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 7:59:34 PM EDT
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Same reason people like me can't tell the difference between xm-177s, gau-5's and all of whatever they are called.

It's how into it you are.
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True
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 8:01:42 PM EDT
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A guy:  "Hey, you have a couple of AK-47s, don't you, Loki?"

Me:  "No, what I actually have is a Saiga Converted Sporter Rifle in 7.62x39 and a Romanian WASR 7.62x39 Sporter Rifle."

A guy:  "Whatever, weirdo."


That's why. They're just AKs. A Russian one and a Romanian one. 
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