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Posted: 5/1/2011 4:25:52 PM EDT
burn down 4chan.org? That place is filled with all kinds of illegal activity including but not limited to child pornography, bestiality, rape, hacking etc... Discuss please.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:26:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 4:28:30 PM EDT by Vicinity]
I don't think it's registered in this country.

ETA: And pedobear might rape them.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:27:10 PM EDT
It's the only place the Feds can go for Rule 34 requests.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:27:34 PM EDT
They can monitor them better all together. Scatter them and you run into problems.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:28:13 PM EDT
In before, " Good luck, I'm behind seven proxies."
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:28:35 PM EDT
Something about poxy's and firewalls?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:29:02 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Tweightwee:


In before, " Good luck, I'm behind seven proxies."






 
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:29:13 PM EDT
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

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Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:30:11 PM EDT
did I miss something?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:30:56 PM EDT
what kind of website is it..never heard of it
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:32:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
burn down 4chan.org? That place is filled with all kinds of illegal activity including but not limited to child pornography, bestiality, rape, hacking etc... Discuss please.


The same reason they can't "burn down" ARFCOM.

There's a lot more to 4chan than anon and the /b/tards, sorry to break it to ya.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:32:39 PM EDT
They need someone around to make them look good.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:33:52 PM EDT



Originally Posted By fnub315:


what kind of website is it..never heard of it



let me explain with a pictoral:







 
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:35:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

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So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:36:47 PM EDT
Um...Because Anonymous would burn down the Feds?



The memory of what happened to HBGary Federal is still fresh.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:38:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 4:40:05 PM EDT by GutWrench]
Originally Posted By allenNH:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
burn down 4chan.org? That place is filled with all kinds of illegal activity including but not limited to child pornography, bestiality, rape, hacking etc... Discuss please.


The same reason they can't "burn down" ARFCOM.

There's a lot more to 4chan than anon and the /b/tards, sorry to break it to ya.


This is arfcom. It is nothing like 4chan. Arfcom does its best to keep illegal activity from being posted here and im sure if the feds came down on them they would cooperate. at 4chan illegal activity is condoned and encouraged by its "members."
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:38:54 PM EDT

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:39:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.


Because the servers probably aren't based in the US.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:42:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.


correct. Just like if somebody posts instructions on how to convert your ar15 to full auto without a rdias. The mods here desend, delete the thread and ban the user. All is good and the story is closed unless the cops serve a warran for the user's information.

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Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:43:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keymaster4225:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.


Because the servers probably aren't based in the US.


So does that mean they are untouchable?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:44:44 PM EDT
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:46:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:46:31 PM EDT



Originally Posted By GutWrench:



Originally Posted By Keymaster4225:


Originally Posted By GutWrench:


Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:

Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.



Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile




So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.




Because the servers probably aren't based in the US.




So does that mean they are untouchable?


Legally, I believe so.



 
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:48:09 PM EDT



Originally Posted By GutWrench:



Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys




I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?


haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?



 
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:49:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keymaster4225:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.


Because the servers probably aren't based in the US.


Depends on your definition.

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Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:49:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
burn down 4chan.org? That place is filled with all kinds of illegal activity including but not limited to child pornography, bestiality, rape, hacking etc... Discuss please.


Sage.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:52:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:55:10 PM EDT
Why the obsession with killing 4chan?  Why is it any of your business?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:57:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 4:58:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


A lot of the government runs on computers.

They can control any computer.

See the dilemma?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:00:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes and no, if the servers are physically located in another country, and are administered off shore, then there is nothing that the US government can really do, as they don't have jurisdiction, most European and Asian countries pretty much tell the state department to fuck off and die when they request local help on issues of this type, the rest of the world is the wild wild west, and there is nobody who cares.

Of course on the other hand, if the servers are offshore, and the local government isn't cooperating because the activities going on on the site are not against local laws, then what is to stop the feds from hacking their way in (other than electronic security and lack of ability)?

At this point I think Anon is quickly moving from minor annoyance to large pain in the ass. The vast majority of Anon aren't nearly as talented as they think they are, and eventually the feds are going to get smart.


But would anon care if the owner started cooperating with the feds and outing the pedo's?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:01:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 103:
Why the obsession with killing 4chan?  Why is it any of your business?


Old people fearing technology, overblown media hype, fantastic self-aggrandizing on the part of anon...
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:01:24 PM EDT
But what are they going to burn down?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:01:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


A lot of the government runs on computers.

They can control any computer.

See the dilemma?



How you figure?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:01:54 PM EDT
Because they mad.



Not everything you hear on nightly news is true by the way.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:02:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


A lot of the government runs on computers.

They can control any computer.

See the dilemma?



How you figure?


Which part? 4chan having leet hackz0r skillz or the gubbmint running on computers?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:03:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


hbgary.  read about it.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:03:30 PM EDT


It's sort of a Moot point.


Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:04:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By damcv62:
But what are they going to burn down?


I didnt mean literally "burn it down." lol
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:08:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Vicinity:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


A lot of the government runs on computers.

They can control any computer.

See the dilemma?



How you figure?


Which part? 4chan having leet hackz0r skillz or the gubbmint running on computers?


Both. I mean come on you think the feds don't have a means to stop them? I'm pretty sure they have a few hacks of their own.

Like are you saying that if anon wanted to. They could shut down the stock exchange or something like that? If they did it would just be a inconvenience.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:10:00 PM EDT
well the child pornography is deleted when ever it is posted and users banned. The beastality isnt illegal everywhere. yeah a lot of gross nasty crap is posted there but as long as it isnt illegal why does it matter.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:17:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:

Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Spartan121020:
because not even the feds wanna fuck with those guys


I hear this a lot but I don't think its true. No doubt there are probably some true hacks on that site but other then hijacking a website what exactly could those kids do to the fed?

haha, thats exactly what everyone else who fucked around with those guys said. what could they do to me?
 


Have they ever hacked into anything that really matters? I know they can track down kids they don't like on you tube and fucked with Oprah once.


hbgary.  read about it.


Again i say. Have they ever hacked anything that matters?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:18:23 PM EDT
this thread reminds me that I need to go troll some /k/ommandos.  
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:19:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2011 5:21:35 PM EDT by maddmatt]
Why would the feds get rid of their #1 source for fap material?
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:19:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Yes and no, if the servers are physically located in another country, and are administered off shore, then there is nothing that the US government can really do, as they don't have jurisdiction, most European and Asian countries pretty much tell the state department to fuck off and die when they request local help on issues of this type, the rest of the world is the wild wild west, and there is nobody who cares.

Of course on the other hand, if the servers are offshore, and the local government isn't cooperating because the activities going on on the site are not against local laws, then what is to stop the feds from hacking their way in (other than electronic security and lack of ability)?

At this point I think Anon is quickly moving from minor annoyance to large pain in the ass. The vast majority of Anon aren't nearly as talented as they think they are, and eventually the feds are going to get smart.


But would anon care if the owner started cooperating with the feds and outing the pedo's?


I have no idea where this came from, but the site admins at 4chan take a really dim view of CP (child porn) and delete it as soon as it's detected.  It's not allowed there, and the site does cooperate with the feds when it comes to investigating it.  In fact, anon has gone all vigilante on kiddie porn posters in the past as well.

All the pedobear/"iz dat sum cp" etc crap is just in jest.

Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:20:40 PM EDT
Depictions of some of that stuff are not necessarily illegal.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:23:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
Safe harbor. A site is not responsible for what it's members post so long as the moderators don't encourage the posts and act to remove them.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


So the feds can't seize the servers and gain ip addresses? I know the 7 proxy bullshit and all that but im sure not all the people that post have that kind of knowledge.


correct. Just like if somebody posts instructions on how to convert your ar15 to full auto without a rdias. The mods here desend, delete the thread and ban the user. All is good and the story is closed unless the cops serve a warran for the user's information.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


On that particular issue posting the information isn't illegal. It just draws unwanted attention from gendarmes and dirtbags.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:25:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rasanders22:
well the child pornography is deleted when ever it is posted and users banned. The beastality isnt illegal everywhere. yeah a lot of gross nasty crap is posted there but as long as it isnt illegal why does it matter.


Given the breadth of the law, most things that are illegal don't matter, either.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:25:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By allenNH:
Originally Posted By GutWrench:
burn down 4chan.org? That place is filled with all kinds of illegal activity including but not limited to child pornography, bestiality, rape, hacking etc... Discuss please.


The same reason they can't "burn down" ARFCOM.

There's a lot more to 4chan than anon and the /b/tards, sorry to break it to ya.


People don't seem to be getting this or the fact that anon != 4chan.  Shut down 4chan and all you do is limit the number of peons that can be harvested for ddos attacks.  You won't actually get anyone for illegal haxoring, because they aren't planning their ops on 4chan.
Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:26:37 PM EDT
same reason they can't stop drugs coming into this nation

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Link Posted: 5/1/2011 5:29:17 PM EDT
There's so much anti-American hatred and racism on that website I'm sure Oblammo rubs one out every night on the Int'l forum. Funny thing is so much of it comes from the good ole US of A.

I browse around that site every now and then but it's almost as retarded as DU. I leave a lot of "History 101....." replies, such as responding to "A-Stan is an illegal war" threads. "History 101: On Sept. 11, 2001 while you were either getting stoned or sh@tting in your diapers, a group of radical Muslim extremists hijacked 4 airliners and flew them into the WTC, Pentagon, and crashed another in a field in PA killing over 3000 innocent people from around the world. Feel free to Google it, I'm sure you'll be quite surprised at what you find".

The longest thread I've ever seen there was a bunch of idiots bitching about how uptight Americans are about incest and that there's nothing wrong with banging your sister. Morons.
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