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Posted: 5/3/2015 8:18:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 8:18:43 PM EDT by Recusance]
More than pump or single barrel shotguns?

Are they that complicated to build?

How about double hammer SxS?
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:22:57 PM EDT
Point of impact.

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Point of impact.

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I did not see a SxS in that movie.


Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:25:50 PM EDT
Well there's the cost of the extra barrel and trigger/lockwork required to use both.

Then you also need to regulate both to hit same POA with the same shot stack. (50/50, 60/40 etc)


Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:28:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:30:40 PM EDT
why would this be any different than an O\U.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:31:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 8:32:18 PM EDT by AZ_Sky]
And then you get to wonder why over/unders are so much more than side-by-sides....
I have pumps, side-by-side, and over/under shotguns - I don't have a semi-auto shotfun (suppose I should remedy that)....

Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:34:45 PM EDT
Side by sides, both rifles and shotguns, are difficult to regulate properly
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:37:35 PM EDT
The good ones are usually built really well, they can't just be slapped together like a pump.

There is also some prestige involved when you buy a well made upland gun, so I am sure that is in the price as well.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 8:47:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
And then you get to wonder why over/unders are so much more than side-by-sides....I have pumps, side-by-side, and over/under shotguns - I don't have a semi-auto shotfun (suppose I should remedy that)....


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Mossy 930s run good, and dont break the bank. I paid 500 for mine, I have a total of 650 wrapped up in the gun with a coat of rustoliem and a PA micro.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:12:59 PM EDT
More time/hand work required to regulate the barrels to hit the same area.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:16:20 PM EDT
It's two guns in one!
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:16:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Recusance:

Are they that complicated to build?
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Yes, of course they are. This should be obvious after thinking about them for about 30 seconds.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:25:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
And then you get to wonder why over/unders are so much more than side-by-sides....I have pumps, side-by-side, and over/under shotguns - I don't have a semi-auto shotfun (suppose I should remedy that)....



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It depends on the O/U and the side by side.

Purdeys ain't cheap.


Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:36:46 PM EDT
Most of the newer SxS and O/U use one trigger and a safety that lets you select which barrel you want to shoot first making it a more complicated mechanism than a pump or semi auto. Getting the double barrels to align properly and shoot properly is more difficult as well as opposed to a single barrel.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:37:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By YourAlterEgo:
why would this be any different than an O\U.
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Over/under barrels are parallel.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:37:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shotar:
They are easy to build. They are extremely difficult to build correctly. Lots of hand work needed to get those two barrels shooting to the same place.
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Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:39:32 PM EDT
I just picked up an old Sears 20" 12 gauge double.

Frankly, it's just fun to shoot, especially with 00 buck.

Good gun to have around. You can bust some ass with 36 .32 caliber pellets.

Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:41:41 PM EDT
You're no Daisy
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:44:19 PM EDT
Biden told me they were the optimum self defense weapon for everyman. Are you telling me they are priced for the 1%?

Those greedy corporations.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:45:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 9:52:26 PM EDT by beardog30]
Indexing of barrels and the lock and trigger mechanism that is a complex mechanism that must be built by skilled hands if it is going to last 50,000-100,000+ rounds is no easy task.

Cheap and quality are two words you won't see together when describing SXS/O/U.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 9:57:47 PM EDT
This is a great video of one of the nicest bespoke manufacturing facilities in the world. They make their own screws. Skip to 10:30'ish where he starts regulating barrels. Its a sxs rifle, but similar principle.

Link Posted: 5/3/2015 10:23:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Archtaan:
This is a great video of one of the nicest bespoke manufacturing facilities in the world. They make their own screws. Skip to 10:30'ish where he starts regulating barrels. Its a sxs rifle, but similar principle.

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I love seeing that video! I was going to post it had you not.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 10:32:44 PM EDT
Because, unlike Glocks, they exude style.
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 11:51:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2015 11:52:37 PM EDT by Cameano]
I have a Rossi Overland just like the one in this video. It is early 70's vintage, and has very little use. I took it out a couple weeks ago and put some #8 through it, good fun.

Link Posted: 5/4/2015 12:08:20 AM EDT
Not all that expensive.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/37_956/Stoeger/


Link Posted: 5/4/2015 12:12:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
And then you get to wonder why over/unders are so much more than side-by-sides....I have pumps, side-by-side, and over/under shotguns - I don't have a semi-auto shotfun (suppose I should remedy that)....


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Beretta A400. Do it. I know you have similar tastes in guns as I do, and it's hands down my favorite semi-auto.

As to answer the OPs question, look at Stoeger shotguns. They're cheap. The reason most O/U and SxS shotguns are expensive is the craftsmanship. The people buying shotguns in that market are looking for quality.

Shoot one and find out for yourself.
Link Posted: 5/4/2015 12:18:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Target556x45mm:

Mossy 930s run good, and dont break the bank. I paid 500 for mine, I have a total of 650 wrapped up in the gun with a coat of rustoliem and a PA micro.
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Originally Posted By AZ_Sky:
And then you get to wonder why over/unders are so much more than side-by-sides....I have pumps, side-by-side, and over/under shotguns - I don't have a semi-auto shotfun (suppose I should remedy that)....



Mossy 930s run good, and dont break the bank. I paid 500 for mine, I have a total of 650 wrapped up in the gun with a coat of rustoliem and a PA micro.

I haven't shot trap in a long time, but I can probably still shoot a 21 to 23 out of 25 if I had my old O/U upland gun, or Beretta A400.

Give me that Mossberg and I'd be lucky to get 18.

I see a lot of the "Herp but Mossberg" and "Derp my 870" on here. When you really get into shotguns be it trap, skeet, sporting clays, or hunting it matters.

I have talked my friends into better semi autos. SX3s and a Montefeltro. I then cast and dropped the stock to fit them. Guess what - I don't outshoot them too often anymore.
Link Posted: 5/4/2015 12:29:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Elcunning:
Not all that expensive.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/37_956/Stoeger/
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Wow. $449 for the coach gun. They've gone up a lot. I paid $297 for mine just a few years ago.


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