Chuck Michel, a spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association and an NRA lawyer, said he sympathized with Gorski's impatience, but said his approach was "not the way to go about correcting the problem." Michel has filed a lawsuit in Fresno Superior Court challenging the weapons ban on the basis of its ambiguity. Gorski, he said, is a "well-intentioned loose cannon."

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The NRA has a chance to fight for the RKBA on constitutional grounds - but they opt out and instead prefer to argue on the grounds of legal "technicalities" (ambiguous laws) because the NRA is afraid they'd lose on a straight-ahead decision regarding the 2nd Amendment.

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Chuck Michel, a spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association and an NRA lawyer, said he sympathized with Gorski's impatience, but said his approach was "not the way to go about correcting the problem." Michel has filed a lawsuit in Fresno Superior Court [red]challenging the weapons ban on the basis of its ambiguity.[/red] Gorski, he said, is a "well-intentioned loose cannon."

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Didn't the Ninth Circus confirm that SB23 was completely legal and not a violation of the US Constitution?

The California Rifle and Pistol Association has about a dozen or more cases going before the liberal run courts at any time for what they're worth. The bastards continue to make law from the bench backing their fellow liberals who continue to violate federal law outright. They're even bold about it and the United States Constitution no longer applies in California. I'm dead serious.

Every failed attempt is used by the anti's to form case law and further their warped adjenda. Their bottom line is a subject base who are totally dependent upon the state for everything - personal protection is one of the major parts and has the second edge to it of preventing those with a backbone and a set to go along with it from rebelling come the proper time.

The right case to over throw only some of these bizarro laws might have been Emerson and I'm still waiting on the last shoe to drop on that one.

This is a battle of lawyers and politicians against the lay people of the state. The government is no longer one of the peoples will but one of the elite professional lawyer/politicians who have gained power slowly over time without enough caring people noticing.

and a cherished autographed picture of his hero, pro wrestler-turned-politician Jesse Ventura, Minnesota's governor.

The government is no longer one of the peoples will but one of the elite professional lawyer/politicians who have gained power slowly over time without enough caring people noticing.

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The Ninth Circuit basically affirmed the right of the states to regulate possession of firearms based on the fact that the state must supply a "well regulated militia."  

My understanding of the issue is that the NRA is trying to pick its battles in order to develop case law that can be used to challenge the greater issues later.  What Gorski is doing is taking the 'silver bullet' approach by attacking the situation directly.

Remember, gun control has been here since 1934 and has become more stringent as the years pass.  And, of course, once the sheeple got used to it, the pace has quickened.  Thinking that any court is going to repeal 22,000 laws overnight is foolish.  SCOTUS got whipped by the FDR administration when he threatened to pack the court with as many as 17 justices to ensure his unconstitutional social programs were implemented.  [red]Stopping and reversing gun control is going to require a lot of time.[/red]  

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Here is a guy who has picked up the flag off the ground and is carrying it forward. Californians interested in God-given rights should be lining up behind him!

Fargen NRA, see what they do? Where's GOA on this one?

[i]Originally posted by raygun [/i]
[B]The state is saying that a California drivers license or ID isn't valid. I don't see why Big 5 would be asking for two forms of ID? There is no law requiring two forms of photo ID only proof of residency by one of the following:  A lease or deed to your property with the address you are stating where you live. A utility bill within 90 days, or military orders with a permanent duty station.

This amounts to nothing but more California harrasment! Is your wife or girfreind or roommate not on the lease or utility bills? Well he or she can't legally buy a gun. What about college kids and everyone else who doesn't have these documents?  California just eliminated a bunch of people from buying guns in this state.  

[red]We will also need to give a thumb print on the DROS form in 2003 because as gun owners we are guilty until proven innocent.[/red]

From the CA DOJ website:

Effective January 1, 2003, provides that no firearms dealer may deliver a handgun without first requiring the recipient of that handgun to correctly and properly perform a safe handling demonstration with that handgun. The firearms dealer is required to retain an affidavit signed by himself/herself and the handgun recipient as proof of compliance. Failure to comply may result in removal of the firearms dealer from the Centralized List of Firearms Dealers. Persons who are exempt for the HSC requirement are also exempt from the safety handling demonstration requirements (PC 12071(b)(8).

[red]Effective January 1, 2003, requires each person taking delivery of a firearm from a firearms dealer to provide his/her right thumbprint on the Dealers Record of Sale form (PC 12077).[/red]

Effective January 1, 2003 requires each firearms dealer delivering a handgun to obtain proof of residency from the handgun recipient. Satisfactory proof of residency may include a utility bill from within the three months prior to the delivery, a residential lease, a property deed, military permanent duty station orders indicating assignment within this state, or other evidence of residency as permitted by the DOJ. The firearms dealer is required to retain the residency documentation as proof of compliance. Failure to comply may result in removal of the firearms dealer from the Centralized List of Firearms Dealers (PC 12071 (b)(8) (C). [/B]

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Just keep sending checks and we will tell you when the war is over.

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Forgot, Gary's web site..

[url]http://www.gwgorski.com/[/url]